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Started by Jaycee1964, April 14, 2016, 10:07:00 AM

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Jaycee1964

Has less than 2K miles on it.  Like brand new.  Nail in it.  Would you patch it, tube and run it or would you replace it.  Hate to toss it..
Killin' me...Sucks!!
If you have to stop and think about if it is right or wrong, Assume it is wrong.

chico

Get the plug and go kit, unless its in the sidewall

Pete_Vit

Quote from: Jaycee1964 on April 14, 2016, 10:07:00 AM
Has less than 2K miles on it.  Like brand new.  Nail in it.  Would you patch it, tube and run it or would you replace it.  Hate to toss it..
Killin' me...Sucks!!
sucks, had that happen once on a new Avon rear tire, I took it to a cycle shop, they checked it first for how bad the damage was, my case it was a small nail, no belts seperated, they patched it and I rode on it until I had to replace, it, thinking about it ,patching and a tube would prolly been best.    :pop:
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Pete_Vit

Quote from: chico on April 14, 2016, 10:13:42 AM
Get the plug and go kit, unless its in the sidewall
:down: not on my bike, those plug kits do too much damage to the tire, I've used a plug kit on a truck tire I was gonna replace, lasted for another 2-3 thousand miles, but I have 4 good tires on a car/truck and a spare. my 2 cents
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fbn ent

I've plugged AND patched (inside) my rear tires and run them out before. This is actually approved as long as the puncture is in the face of the tire and not in the same (IIRC) quartile of the tire. I would only do this on a rear, approved or not.
'02 FLTRI - 103" / '84 FLH - 88"<br />Hinton, Alberta

Jaycee1964

Quote from: fbn ent on April 14, 2016, 10:28:50 AM
I've plugged AND patched (inside) my rear tires and run them out before. This is actually approved as long as the puncture is in the face of the tire and not in the same (IIRC) quartile of the tire. I would only do this on a rear, approved or not.
It is the back tire.  If it were even half way worn I would replace it.  I'm heading on a 6K mile trip in a month and don't really care to deal with issues.  prolly will just patch and tube it to be safe.
If you have to stop and think about if it is right or wrong, Assume it is wrong.

fbn ent

A tube will build more heat....
'02 FLTRI - 103" / '84 FLH - 88"<br />Hinton, Alberta

Jaycee1964

Quote from: fbn ent on April 14, 2016, 10:42:36 AM
A tube will build more heat....

I'm in New Hampshire.  Any heat I can build is very appreciated!   :teeth:

I hear ya. 
If you have to stop and think about if it is right or wrong, Assume it is wrong.

koko3052

Patch on a rear I would do, but I wouldn't use a plug unless it was just to me get to the nearest place that will sell me a tire.

FSG

Quote from: chico on April 14, 2016, 10:13:42 AM
Get the plug and go kit, unless its in the sidewall

:agree:  been riding on plugs for years    :chop: 

Jaycee1964

The answers are all over the place.  So personal experience and perception it is..
Ya ever wish there were a strait answer?   I live with 5 women. Wife, 3 daughters and a mother in law....  They are all over the place too!  LOL

I need a drink...  Patch, plug, tube, replace, heat.....  UGH!!!....Not bashin' at all, just pretty damn funny...

:hyst:
If you have to stop and think about if it is right or wrong, Assume it is wrong.

Pete_Vit

like the saying goes, 'opinions are like.....everyone's got one'  :wink:  mine based on a shop that sell's, mounts, and repairs bike tires, this was about 15 years ago, some have had success with plugs, had no problems  :up: I personally would not plug based on the advice of a tire shop. 
never head of excess heat a tube causes, is this true for a rim / tire combo that requires a tube?
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joes bar and grill

Quote from: Jaycee1964 on April 14, 2016, 11:41:24 AM
The answers are all over the place.  So personal experience and perception it is..
Ya ever wish there were a strait answer?   I live with 5 women. Wife, 3 daughters and a mother in law....  They are all over the place too!  LOL

I need a drink...  Patch, plug, tube, replace, heat.....  UGH!!!....Not bashin' at all, just pretty damn funny...

:hyst:
You live with 5 women? You sir are either a saint or insane!

Jaycee1964

Quote from: joes bar and grill on April 14, 2016, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: Jaycee1964 on April 14, 2016, 11:41:24 AM
The answers are all over the place.  So personal experience and perception it is..
Ya ever wish there were a strait answer?   I live with 5 women. Wife, 3 daughters and a mother in law....  They are all over the place too!  LOL

I need a drink...  Patch, plug, tube, replace, heat.....  UGH!!!....Not bashin' at all, just pretty damn funny...

:hyst:
You live with 5 women? You sir are either a saint or insane!

INSANE IDIOT....   :doh:
If you have to stop and think about if it is right or wrong, Assume it is wrong.

bigfoot5x

I had a similar experience while traveling 1 time with a relatively new tire. The dealer would only replace it. Later I had the opportunity to talk with a Dunlop rep one time. He said plug or patch was fine. If the tire is fine and the hole is in the tread a repair is fine. Never had the problem come again. Other flats that I have had were late enough in the tire life that I replaced the tire.

SixShooter14

I've done about every flat-fix known (plug, patch, patch-with that spikey plug that acts as both, tube, patched tube, patched tube with stiff rubber boot, multi-patch tube, add second tube as liner to double tube thickness, etc) to truck and tractor tires but never the bike.

I'd probably have no problem plugging a tire to get me around close to home or to the shop. But before a long road trip, I'd probably replace that tire and keep the good plugged tire as a spare at home. After all, there's only 2 keeping you off the pavement yet still on the road.
'97 Road King, Rinehart True Dual, HSR42, 10:1, EVL3010, 2000i
'21 Road Glide Special stock 114

Pete_Vit

Quote from: SixShooter14 on April 14, 2016, 12:32:08 PM
I've done about every flat-fix known (plug, patch, patch-with that spikey plug that acts as both, tube, patched tube, patched tube with stiff rubber boot, multi-patch tube, add second tube as liner to double tube thickness, etc) to truck and tractor tires but never the bike.

I'd probably have no problem plugging a tire to get me around close to home or to the shop. But before a long road trip, I'd probably replace that tire and keep the good plugged tire as a spare at home. After all, there's only 2 keeping you off the pavement yet still on the road.
that was kinda my point...you.....NAILED IT...  :hyst:
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Hossamania

I'm with Sixshooter, I would replace it for the trip, patch the old one fully intending to put it back on when the new one is worn out, leave it hanging on the wall for a few years, just keep buying new ones, then toss the old one out or give it to a bud with worse tires than me.

smoserx1

I have plugged two without problems.  Does not mean it is the right thing to do though and I can understand the dealer refusing to do it.  Liability.  No reason not to run a tube if you want.  Laced wheels do and use the same tires.

Khaotic

What about using Ride-On ?


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Rags722

I don't even want to think about how many times I've plugged a bike tire and ridden until it was close to being worn out with no trouble.  On a brand new tire, I would have zero problem running a patch on the inside and no tube, or a mushroom plug if the damage is minor and last but not least a rope plug.  Again, a lot depends on how severe the damage is and how new the tire is.  The mushroom plug can not blow out, but as the tire wears and the sides of the plug have less rubber to hold to, it might push in.  Never patch or plug a sidewall, pay attention to the angle the object came out and use your reamer & insertion to follow the damage, DO NOT cut a new hole.  I know you only have one life and 2 tires, but in 50+ years of riding, the only plug I ever had fail was a hole in my lawn tractor front tire, and that is so thin it had nothing to cling to.  That said, once the tire gets down to 25% wear, it's off the bike... beyond that, I'm betting against myself.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcfrwl5zNck

motorhogman

As long as the puncture is relatively small ( nail, small screw, etc,..) I have driven gas tankers with hot patched drive tires and trailer tires with no issues.. 84,000 lb gross weight.. On a new tire as long as not on the sidewall I would patch it..
where's the points and condenser ?<br />Tom / aka motor

PoorUB

Plug it and ride it. I have ridden many miles on a few plugged tires with no issues.

Just to stir the pot, one morning we were getting ready to go on a ride and the nearly bald tire on the rear of my Ultra was flat. I shoved a plug into it and rode it another 1,000 miles until I changed it.
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

harley_cruiser

Replace it and send it to me, I'll plug it put some ride on in it and get some use out of it.

Rokinrider

I rode a Dyna from Spearfish SD to Iowa City loaded for bear in August with a plug. Ran that tire out no problems.
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