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Milwaukee Eight testing.

Started by Durwood, January 12, 2017, 12:10:29 PM

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Durwood

The Cycle-Rama 450 cam got here before the Fuel Moto pipe, so I installed and tuned it with the Street Cannon's, SE AC, and de-catted stock head pipe, it is a huge improvement over the stock cam, 100 torque before 2K feels really good, and the way it carries out now is starting to make this fun. :teeth:
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Durwood

This is just the beginning of testing with this cam, as I have time I will be trying different exhaust component's.

HD/Wrench

Great info glad to see it and honest numbers with the step by step..

1FSTRK

Great work.
Looks clear at this level the cam was clearly in control of the curve. It will be interesting to see if the exhaust starts having a greater effect now with the bigger cam.
Can we see this run 26 on a graph with run 9
Thanks
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

NCTURBOS

Wood love to see a direct comparison swap to the M8-222... 😀
-Boosted 95" B... 160.75-hp & 141.55-tq, 93-octane
-2017 FLTRXS... Stock

Durwood

Quote from: NCTURBOS on March 09, 2017, 06:44:04 PM
Wood love to see a direct comparison swap to the M8-222... 😀
I am up for it. Just need the cam.

Durwood

Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 09, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
Great work.
Looks clear at this level the cam was clearly in control of the curve. It will be interesting to see if the exhaust starts having a greater effect now with the bigger cam.
Can we see this run 26 on a graph with run 9
Thanks
Will do Eric.

HD/Wrench

Quote from: Durwood on March 09, 2017, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: NCTURBOS on March 09, 2017, 06:44:04 PM
Wood love to see a direct comparison swap to the M8-222... 😀
I am up for it. Just need the cam.

For  high stepper like you , I would think you have 6 or 8 new cams for this bike laying around  :wink:

Durwood

Quote from: Durwood on March 09, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 09, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
Great work.
Looks clear at this level the cam was clearly in control of the curve. It will be interesting to see if the exhaust starts having a greater effect now with the bigger cam.
Can we see this run 26 on a graph with run 9
Thanks
Will do Eric.
Here you go.
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Herko

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For  high stepper like you , I would think you have 6 or 8 new cams for this bike laying around 

He probably would, but thus far, very few meet the current criteria. The CR M8 450 is definitely one that fits the category.
Considering a power upgrade?
First and foremost, focus on your tuning plan.

1FSTRK

Quote from: Durwood on March 10, 2017, 09:24:39 AM
Quote from: Durwood on March 09, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 09, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
Great work.
Looks clear at this level the cam was clearly in control of the curve. It will be interesting to see if the exhaust starts having a greater effect now with the bigger cam.
Can we see this run 26 on a graph with run 9
Thanks
Will do Eric.
Here you go.
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Thanks
It does show a nice gain for a stage two set up.
1 hp per cubic inch without pulling the heads will keep many guys happy with this alone.

"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

HD/Wrench

Quote from: Herko on March 10, 2017, 11:14:32 AM
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For  high stepper like you , I would think you have 6 or 8 new cams for this bike laying around 

He probably would, but thus far, very few meet the current criteria. The CR M8 450 is definitely one that fits the category.
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I get it I was being funny I have spoke with him on the testing I like the method that he is using ..

Durwood

Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 10, 2017, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: Durwood on March 10, 2017, 09:24:39 AM
Quote from: Durwood on March 09, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 09, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
Great work.
Looks clear at this level the cam was clearly in control of the curve. It will be interesting to see if the exhaust starts having a greater effect now with the bigger cam.
Can we see this run 26 on a graph with run 9
Thanks
Will do Eric.
Here you go.
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Thanks
It does show a nice gain for a stage two set up.
1 hp per cubic inch without pulling the heads will keep many guys happy with this alone.
Agreed, and as other exhaust systems and mufflers are tested I feel this will only get better.


I got to ride it yesterday for a bit, and it finally feels as good as my stage 2, CR-570, 103.

1FSTRK

Quote from: Durwood on March 10, 2017, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 10, 2017, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: Durwood on March 10, 2017, 09:24:39 AM
Quote from: Durwood on March 09, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 09, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
Great work.
Looks clear at this level the cam was clearly in control of the curve. It will be interesting to see if the exhaust starts having a greater effect now with the bigger cam.
Can we see this run 26 on a graph with run 9
Thanks
Will do Eric.
Here you go.
[attach=0]

Thanks
It does show a nice gain for a stage two set up.
1 hp per cubic inch without pulling the heads will keep many guys happy with this alone.
Agreed, and as other exhaust systems and mufflers are tested I feel this will only get better.


I got to ride it yesterday for a bit, and it finally feels as good as my stage 2, CR-570, 103.

Speaking of that stage two 103, I was just looking at the dyno sheets from your 57 cam and the CR-570. How about posting up the graph showing that CR-570, 103 run on top of this run 26 of the 107 with the CR-450
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

Durwood

Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 10, 2017, 03:59:51 PM
Quote from: Durwood on March 10, 2017, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 10, 2017, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: Durwood on March 10, 2017, 09:24:39 AM
Quote from: Durwood on March 09, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: 1FSTRK on March 09, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
Great work.
Looks clear at this level the cam was clearly in control of the curve. It will be interesting to see if the exhaust starts having a greater effect now with the bigger cam.
Can we see this run 26 on a graph with run 9
Thanks
Will do Eric.
Here you go.
[attach=0]

Thanks
It does show a nice gain for a stage two set up.
1 hp per cubic inch without pulling the heads will keep many guys happy with this alone.
Agreed, and as other exhaust systems and mufflers are tested I feel this will only get better.


I got to ride it yesterday for a bit, and it finally feels as good as my stage 2, CR-570, 103.

Speaking of that stage two 103, I was just looking at the dyno sheets from your 57 cam and the CR-570. How about posting up the graph showing that CR-570, 103 run on top of this run 26 of the 107 with the CR-450
Here you go.
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1FSTRK

 :up: :up:
Thanks for all the attention to detail on this and for catering to my requests.
This is just great info to have access to. 
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

Durwood

I just ordered one of these for the shop mule and there is another cam coming from Cycle-Rama as well. I am really looking forward to testing this D&D Billet Cat  :teeth:
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lucasg

Thanks for all the testing and experiments ... .. How the hell do you get any work done... Lol... Just kidding.  That's a beautiful pipe by the way... Almost mistook it for a ProPipe at a quick glance.... Keep up the good work Darren... Much appreciated !!! :up: :up:

1FSTRK

 :party:

This thread is a nice break form the guys racing their engine simulators.
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

sfmichael

Quote from: lucasg on March 29, 2017, 06:01:36 PM
Thanks for all the testing and experiments ... .. How the hell do you get any work done... Lol... Just kidding.  That's a beautiful pipe by the way... Almost mistook it for a ProPipe at a quick glance.... Keep up the good work Darren... Much appreciated !!! :up: :up:

   :agree:
Colorado Springs, CO.

NCTURBOS

Do you still have a FM head-pipe coming that you'll be testing?

K.
-Boosted 95" B... 160.75-hp & 141.55-tq, 93-octane
-2017 FLTRXS... Stock

Durwood

Quote from: NCTURBOS on March 30, 2017, 07:19:56 AM
Do you still have a FM head-pipe coming that you'll be testing?

K.
Jamie is filling all of the pre-orders first, then I will be getting one.

NHBagger

Hmmm,.....interesting 103 vs 107 overlay.  I'm thinking if that 103 was bumped up to 107 (you know, 107 vs 107) things would be even more interesting.   :potstir:

1FSTRK

Quote from: NHBAGGER on April 03, 2017, 11:11:05 AM
Hmmm,.....interesting 103 vs 107 overlay.  I'm thinking if that 103 was bumped up to 107 (you know, 107 vs 107) things would be even more interesting.   :potstir:

Just take a look at the HP per CI or TQ per CI at any rpm and you already have a proper comparison.
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

sfmichael

Quote from: 1FSTRK on April 03, 2017, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: NHBAGGER on April 03, 2017, 11:11:05 AM
Hmmm,.....interesting 103 vs 107 overlay.  I'm thinking if that 103 was bumped up to 107 (you know, 107 vs 107) things would be even more interesting.   :potstir:

Just take a look at the HP per CI or TQ per CI at any rpm and you already have a proper comparison.

10-4

put some mildly ported heads on the 103 and she doesn't layover @ 4500 (where the stock heads start running out of air) then the M8's real advantage (killer headflow) is accounted for (a little bit) and it's a tie
Colorado Springs, CO.