How To Keep Stick-On Wheel Weights From Falling Off?

[DrSpencer]

2007 Softail Custom with stock chrome rear mag wheel.

Once again, the stick-on/Chicklet-style wheel weights have come off my rear rim after a recent balance. Now, I have to remove the rear wheel just to have it rebalanced.

I'm tempted to just trace the outline of the weights with a Sharpie so I can reference the location the next time they fall off.

What can I do to avoid this in the future?

Thanks

[Ohio HD]

Honestly, they probably aren't cleaning the wheel very well, or the weights adhesive is not that good. I have chrome mags and they stick very well. Howe ever I'm the one putting them on, so I do a good job.

[rbabos]

2007 Softail Custom with stock chrome rear mag wheel.

Once again, the stick-on/Chicklet-style wheel weights have come off my rear rim after a recent balance. Now, I have to remove the rear wheel just to have it rebalanced.

I'm tempted to just trace the outline of the weights with a Sharpie so I can reference the location the next time they fall off.

What can I do to avoid this in the future?

Thanks

Stock 07 FXSTC wheel was not chromed, just micro polished aluminum unless you got it chromed . IIRC there isn't a flat horizontal  spot from hub to bead area. It runs on an angle so weights will shear off from centrifugal force. I used Dyna Beads in my bike for that reason.
Ron

[calif phil]

The shape of that wheel doesn't help with weights sticking.   I would not pull the wheel off unless you can feel a vibration.   Next time you have it balanced when you get home mark the location of the weight, peel it off and then apply some RTV silicone and glue it back  on.   Let it dry for a day before you ride and it will  stay until next time you need to replace the tire. 

[fleetmechanic]

We glue the weights on with GOOP.  The adhesive on the weights alone just doesn't seem to be enough even if the wheel is clean.  Takes awhile to cure but they stay on after that.

[rbabos]

double post for some reason.

[rbabos]

Depends on the type of adhesive backing of the weights too as for life. The paper glue strip ones deteriorate with water over time and detach mid point of the paper glue strip. The ones with the 3m molding type tapes seem to last until tire wears out. The paper ones, I'd tend to run a silicone sealant bead around the perimeter to water proof the paper.
Ron

[DrSpencer]

Just had the rim rebalanced, with 4) 1/4 oz. Chicklet-style weights.

It was suggested to me that I should mark the position of the new weights, then reapply them using 3M double sided body molding tape.

Do I first remove the adhesive tape on the Chicklets, or just use it in combination with the 3M tape?

Thanks

[rbabos]

Just had the rim rebalanced, with 4) 1/4 oz. Chicklet-style weights.

It was suggested to me that I should mark the position of the new weights, then reapply them using 3M double sided body molding tape.

Do I first remove the adhesive tape on the Chicklets, or just use it in combination with the 3M tape?

Thanks

Completely remove the tape and use the 3M stuff.
Ron

[ViseGrips]

   ,,, try dyna beads..

[Ancient]

IMO the best way to avoid them coming off is by not putting them on. I quit messing with them years ago. I use Ride-on nowadays.

[DrSpencer]

2007 Softail Custom with stock chrome rear mag wheel.

Once again, the stick-on/Chicklet-style wheel weights have come off my rear rim after a recent balance. Now, I have to remove the rear wheel just to have it rebalanced.

I'm tempted to just trace the outline of the weights with a Sharpie so I can reference the location the next time they fall off.

What can I do to avoid this in the future?

Thanks

Stock 07 FXSTC wheel was not chromed, just micro polished aluminum unless you got it chromed . IIRC there isn't a flat horizontal  spot from hub to bead area. It runs on an angle so weights will shear off from centrifugal force. I used Dyna Beads in my bike for that reason.
Ron

That's correct The wheel is angled, so the weights tend to slide off. In 2007 HD actually offered this rim in chrome, as an option.

What bike do you have that has a similar styled rim, which causes you to use Dyna beads?

Thanks

[Wicked]

I've never had a problem using the 3m type stick-ons but clean and flatest is important. Clean with brake clean then a wipe with denatured alcohol and let it dry.... then stick 'em on.

[ThumperDeuce]

I was constantly throwing weights so I tried DynaBeads.  They seem to work ok for my application.

[DrSpencer]

Is there any disadvantage to using DynaBeads?

Seems like they're too good to be true, lol.

Thanks

[DrSpencer]

While we're on the subject, can anyone offer an opinion regarding static vs dynamic wheel balancing?

Thanks

[Wicked]

Is there any disadvantage to using DynaBeads?

Seems like they're too good to be true, lol.

Thanks

Oohhh boy!!!    ! I will not sell/use them in my shop!     Opinions will vary.... 

[rbabos]

2007 Softail Custom with stock chrome rear mag wheel.

Once again, the stick-on/Chicklet-style wheel weights have come off my rear rim after a recent balance. Now, I have to remove the rear wheel just to have it rebalanced.

I'm tempted to just trace the outline of the weights with a Sharpie so I can reference the location the next time they fall off.

What can I do to avoid this in the future?

Thanks

Stock 07 FXSTC wheel was not chromed, just micro polished aluminum unless you got it chromed . IIRC there isn't a flat horizontal  spot from hub to bead area. It runs on an angle so weights will shear off from centrifugal force. I used Dyna Beads in my bike for that reason.
Ron

That's correct The wheel is angled, so the weights tend to slide off. In 2007 HD actually offered this rim in chrome, as an option.

What bike do you have that has a similar styled rim, which causes you to use Dyna beads?

Thanks

I did have the exact same bike but the polished wheel. I looked at the rim slant and decided to go with Dyna beads due to the steep angle in the rim. Had no issues, wore (4) 200 tires out reusing the beads each time.
My V rod actually came from the factory with no balance on either tire. I detected some hop so Dyna beads are in it right now. Ride On is another option if you like liquid mess at change time and it offers some flat protection as well. I don't consider the tire warranty denial with Dyna Beads important enough to worry about and the amount I've used them I've never seen any internal damage with their use. Just use the correct amount or a hair more and keep tire mounting lube to a minimum.
Ron

[ThumperDeuce]

The only down side is that they would be a pain to clean up if spilled.  I told Otto to drill a hole in the tire with a hole saw and take the beads out before he pulled the tire off.  I made a tool from an air dryer to inject the beads through the valve stem, but if your careful you can just pour them in.  They used to make a bag full of beads that you put in and the bag would disintegrate once inside the wheel.

[DrSpencer]

Regrettably, I'm not doing it myself, so it seems I'm at the mercy of whatever tire monkey is mounting/balancing my wheels. Whether they clean the rim very well before applying weights, etc.

Furthermore, most shops in my area (both HD Dealers & Indys) no longer want to have me show up with my wheels and new tires (purchased online) off the bike. They either want to sell me their tires, do the full remove/install service, or both.

I used to pay $30 per wheel for mount/balance. The last time I rolled my wheels into a HD Dealer off the bike, with my new tires in hand, it cost me ~$145.

1 hour labor: $125
Weights: ~$5
Tire disposal fee: $10
Taxes: ~$5

[Bikerscum]

2007 Softail Custom with stock chrome rear mag wheel.

Once again, the stick-on/Chicklet-style wheel weights have come off my rear rim after a recent balance. Now, I have to remove the rear wheel just to have it rebalanced.

I'm tempted to just trace the outline of the weights with a Sharpie so I can reference the location the next time they fall off.

What can I do to avoid this in the future?

Thanks

Stock 07 FXSTC wheel was not chromed, just micro polished aluminum unless you got it chromed . IIRC there isn't a flat horizontal  spot from hub to bead area. It runs on an angle so weights will shear off from centrifugal force. I used Dyna Beads in my bike for that reason.
Ron

That's correct The wheel is angled, so the weights tend to slide off. In 2007 HD actually offered this rim in chrome, as an option.

What bike do you have that has a similar styled rim, which causes you to use Dyna beads?

Thanks

I did have the exact same bike but the polished wheel. I looked at the rim slant and decided to go with Dyna beads due to the steep angle in the rim. Had no issues, wore (4) 200 tires out reusing the beads each time.
My V rod actually came from the factory with no balance on either tire. I detected some hop so Dyna beads are in it right now. Ride On is another option if you like liquid mess at change time and it offers some flat protection as well. I don't consider the tire warranty denial with Dyna Beads important enough to worry about and the amount I've used them I've never seen any internal damage with their use. Just use the correct amount or a hair more and keep tire mounting lube to a minimum.
Ron

I use Ride-On... there's no mess at all when changing tires. It congeals into something similar to grease.... [attach=0]

Had 3 nails in that tire when it was changed... never lost a bit of air 

[fleetmechanic]

While we're on the subject, can anyone offer an opinion regarding static vs dynamic wheel balancing?

Thannc

We have Snap On M/C WBM 250 balancers but I learned on the first one that using the dynamic settings becomes a career at the machine.  We just use the Static mode.

[92flhtcu]

And the low density steel weights are the reason I sell so much Ride-On. Weights not sticking issue really became prevalent after lead went away

[hattitude]

2007 Softail Custom with stock chrome rear mag wheel.

Once again, the stick-on/Chicklet-style wheel weights have come off my rear rim after a recent balance. Now, I have to remove the rear wheel just to have it rebalanced.

I'm tempted to just trace the outline of the weights with a Sharpie so I can reference the location the next time they fall off.

What can I do to avoid this in the future?

Thanks

I use Ride-On... there's no mess at all when changing tires. It congeals into something similar to grease.... [attach=0]

Had 3 nails in that tire when it was changed... never lost a bit of air 

I kept losing my weights too... Been using Ride-On for a couple years now, very satisfied....

[Ancient]

Regrettably, I'm not doing it myself, so it seems I'm at the mercy of whatever tire monkey is mounting/balancing my wheels. Whether they clean the rim very well before applying weights, etc.

Furthermore, most shops in my area (both HD Dealers & Indys) no longer want to have me show up with my wheels and new tires (purchased online) off the bike. They either want to sell me their tires, do the full remove/install service, or both.

I used to pay $30 per wheel for mount/balance. The last time I rolled my wheels into a HD Dealer off the bike, with my new tires in hand, it cost me ~$145.

1 hour labor: $125
Weights: ~$5
Tire disposal fee: $10
Taxes: ~$5

So, why not start doing it yourself? Don't want to be called a monkey?