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Title: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: PanHeadRed on February 16, 2022, 09:02:29 AM
I want to put hard bags on a 1990 FXRS using the SUMAX brackets. According to SUMAX the brackets only fit 1991-up FXR's. Anyone know what's so unique about the 1990 (-84 Frame) and the 1991 (-91 Frame) that make this impossible? I asked SUMAX if the brackets would fit a 1990 FXRS and they said no "the frame". According to the parts book there was no mid year frame change. The bike is titled 1990 and it has a splined output on the trans main shaft.

If SUMAX brackets are out, anyone have a solution to hard bags on a 1990 FXRS?

Regards,
PHR
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: turboprop on February 16, 2022, 09:53:51 AM
Quote from: PanHeadRed on February 16, 2022, 09:02:29 AMI want to put hard bags on a 1990 FXRS using the SUMAX brackets. According to SUMAX the brackets only fit 1991-up FXR's. Anyone know what's so unique about the 1990 (-84 Frame) and the 1991 (-91 Frame) that make this impossible? I asked SUMAX if the brackets would fit a 1990 FXRS and they said no "the frame". According to the parts book there was no mid year frame change. The bike is titled 1990 and it has a splined output on the trans main shaft.

If SUMAX brackets are out, anyone have a solution to hard bags on a 1990 FXRS?

Regards,
PHR


Look at the rear fender struts and upper sock mounts of both year groups of frames.
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: PanHeadRed on February 16, 2022, 10:24:02 AM
All I have are photos of a 91 and they look the same to me. What do you see?
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: Deye76 on February 16, 2022, 03:44:45 PM
What kind of bags are you trying to install?
I have these on my 1992 FXRP, fit perfect, very well made, brackets available.
https://jdcustomsandfabrications.bigcartel.com/product/fxrt-reproduction-rt-clam-shell-bags
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: PanHeadRed on February 17, 2022, 07:25:22 AM
What kind of bags are you trying to install?

1993-2013 Touring Hard bags.
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: turboprop on February 17, 2022, 07:26:53 AM
Quote from: PanHeadRed on February 16, 2022, 10:24:02 AMAll I have are photos of a 91 and they look the same to me. What do you see?

And you can't find pictures of other years of the FXR?
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: Deye76 on February 17, 2022, 08:21:06 AM
When I look up FXR fender struts, the same part number is listed for 187-1994. These are aftermarket.  :nix: 
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: turboprop on February 17, 2022, 09:14:03 AM
Hint:

Earlier are curved. Later are straight.
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: PanHeadRed on February 17, 2022, 12:02:55 PM
Did the relocate passenger foot pegs in 91? If not the only change I find is the Jiffy stand.

Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: Deye76 on February 18, 2022, 06:54:36 AM
Up until 1987 FXR's had the shocks in a more upright position, then the angle was changed, the top mounting location a little forward. Probably why the part numbers for 1987-1994 are the same. If you don't have the correct mounting hardware, and a brace that goes around and under the back fender to tie both sides together, then make sure to bolster the inside of those hollow struts.
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: mtrhead269 on March 04, 2022, 10:49:08 PM
FLH touring bags are going to be too big on the FXR frame. Will reduce you to one up riding. Cop bags, Clam Shells, Vert bags or T sport bags are better choices
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: PanHeadRed on March 14, 2022, 11:25:46 AM
2 up rides fine.

FXRHBLS.jpg

FXRHBRS.jpg
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: kd on March 14, 2022, 12:01:13 PM
 :agree:  This is an early Low Rider / FX frame but still relevant

Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: SixShooter14 on March 14, 2022, 06:59:32 PM
Not to derail too far... But with enough 'engine-uity' you can make it work... I retrofitted 2014+ bags on my '97 FLHR without much trouble. Obviously a different animal, just bend a bracket here and a spacer there and you can make a lot of things work.

Good luck
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: Deye76 on March 15, 2022, 07:07:22 AM
Panhead Red, which struts did you end up with?
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: PanHeadRed on March 15, 2022, 12:59:54 PM
The original 1990 Struts on a -84 frame. I made SS spacers .6"OD x .328"ID x .45"long and the rear bracket fit the turn signal hole in the struts.

I used a Signal Dynamics Back Off Tag Frame for the turn signals relocate. I netted an extra brake light and running light as well
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: kd on March 15, 2022, 02:30:30 PM
I swapped out for Electra Glide fender struts and mounted the bags with the original decker brackets.  That was back in 1980 so I don't remember if I had to use spacers.  I seem to remember only washers to prevent the fender from cracking with the vibration of the loaded bags.  Unfortunately I was always too busy riding and partying to take any pictures.  The one pic I posted was given to me. I know it was an easy job to mount them in my case.

added later

I should have mentioned that my rear fender was a reversed dresser front fender so it would have been wider and similar to the stock Electra Glide rear tin.
Title: Re: 1990 FXRS Hard Bags
Post by: Deye76 on March 15, 2022, 04:02:34 PM
Nice work Red.  :up: