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Dyno & Tuning Zone => AFR & Tuning Zone => Topic started by: joe_lyons on May 15, 2015, 09:54:59 AM

Title: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: joe_lyons on May 15, 2015, 09:54:59 AM
Any tried this before?  I know the whole speedo thing is the biggie but it would just throw a code correct?  The speedo would still operate with the VSS direct.  I ask this because I wana use the SE ign tuner for 04-06.  I know the plugs are different but that's not too hard to overcome.
Title: Re: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: speedzter on May 15, 2015, 05:54:16 PM
I've looked at using the 04-06 DTT TC88A module on my '00 because it has some data logging functions.
Apart from the speedo and TSM/TSSM data bus issues, there is no reason it shouldn't work.

http://www.daytona-twintec.com/download/TC88A_OE_Wiring.pdf (http://www.daytona-twintec.com/download/TC88A_OE_Wiring.pdf)
Title: Re: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: Powerglides on May 16, 2015, 03:55:44 AM
I spoke to Chris Schroeder about this a few years back, and he assured me that it can be done. He referred me to Dan Theyer, who I also spoke to. He can make up a harness adaptor if required. I wanted to use the TC88A on the dyno to datalog, build the ignition maps, and then flash them into the earlier TC88.
I didn't do this in the end, and never thought to ask if any codes would be thrown. We didn't get any 04-06 Twin Cams with carbs over here.
All of the official imports were EFI by that time.
Title: Re: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: joe_lyons on May 16, 2015, 07:23:21 AM
I don't believe I would need an adaptor as I believe the plugs are the same, just need repinned.  Also this would allow the removal of the cam position sensor. 
Title: Re: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: hrdtail78 on May 16, 2015, 10:55:04 AM
Older had 2 12 pin connections and the newer has 1 12 pin connections.  Repin what you need and it works.
Title: Re: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: FSG on May 16, 2015, 01:47:21 PM
Joe, straight forward and there shouldn't be any codes to throw.  I'll get to the 99 Wiring later today.

(http://i.imgur.com/iu7Y0Ln.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/1CwgrI6.png)
Title: Re: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: speedzter on May 16, 2015, 05:07:47 PM
Looking closer the only thing that won't work is the CEL.
Speedo and TSM will work fine.
Title: Re: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: joe_lyons on May 16, 2015, 06:13:59 PM
Anyone have any 04-06 ign modules laying around doing nothing?
Title: Re: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: joe_lyons on May 16, 2015, 06:44:57 PM
Does this look right?  The CEL and tach would be a no go.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/16/f5f2ceb3b628eaa93c87903b7e3a44e7.jpg)
Title: Re: 04-06 carb ign. on a 99-03?
Post by: speedzter on May 17, 2015, 03:09:15 AM
Checked it a few times, and all looks correct.
I'm sure there would be a way to derive a useable Tach' signal from the coil drive.