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Title: Harley M8 compression release failure.
Post by: TXChop on August 28, 2020, 06:39:56 PM
Has anyone seen or heard of a Auto compression release (ACR)failure where the center valve drops out?
I have stock bike in the shop. Sounded like an exhaust leak. Turns out the comp release was burned up and missing the piece that seals the combustion chamber. Exhaust was leaking through the plastic to atmosphere.

Best part is, pulled the cyl head and its perfect inside, no signs of anything bouncing around at all.
Title: Re: Harley M8 compression release failure.
Post by: TXChop on August 29, 2020, 03:02:19 PM
Well at least harley updated the design
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Post by: wfolarry on August 30, 2020, 05:03:15 AM
They probably seen the same thing you did.  :up:
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Post by: No Cents on August 30, 2020, 07:18:56 AM
  makes you wonder where the guts of that release went...if the guts were even in there from the beginning.   :nix:   I would bet it didn't get hot enough to melt the missing metal piece. Maybe it finally got hot enough over time to finally melt the thru the plastic housing and then the leak was heard. That's a big chunk of metal to just disappear. Definitely a strange one you got there Dan.
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Post by: Durwood on August 31, 2020, 08:08:36 AM
Had one on a Twin Cam do that. The guy wasn't as lucky as yours was.
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Post by: goblue90 on September 12, 2020, 05:51:48 PM
Has anyone had any luck getting their hands on a set of these?  They're on back order from HD.  I placed an order at Surdyke at the end of August and the release date has been pushed back a few times already... currently scheduled to ship on 9/22.  I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Harley M8 compression release failure.
Post by: Gliding Joe on September 20, 2020, 01:04:38 PM
I see where HD has had two updates to these since introduction on the M8 in '17, now on release "B"...... Hmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Harley M8 compression release failure.
Post by: TXChop on September 20, 2020, 04:36:32 PM
Quote from: goblue90 on September 12, 2020, 05:51:48 PM
Has anyone had any luck getting their hands on a set of these?  They're on back order from HD.  I placed an order at Surdyke at the end of August and the release date has been pushed back a few times already... currently scheduled to ship on 9/22.  I'll believe it when I see it.

I had to drive about 110miles to get this one. No one local had it.
Title: Re: Harley M8 compression release failure.
Post by: goblue90 on September 22, 2020, 11:46:40 AM
Just got an email from Surdyke that these are available from HD now, so my backordered ACRs will be shipped to me once they get 'em.  I just reinstalled my upper rocker box covers and oil lines.  Should I take everything back off and replace my old ACRs with the new ones?  Ugh.
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Post by: Jmd897 on September 24, 2020, 12:50:18 PM
Backordered to 10/9 with New Castle.
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Post by: CarlosGGodfrog on September 26, 2020, 04:41:00 PM
Are auto and manual compression releases mechanically interchangeable ?
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Post by: rigidthumper on September 26, 2020, 05:16:04 PM
No.   Different operating style, different size. 
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Post by: Hossamania on September 26, 2020, 06:57:29 PM
And different location.
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Post by: CarlosGGodfrog on September 27, 2020, 08:35:28 AM
I get the electrical vs mechanical differences, but how different are the sizes, and as long as they vent the chamber, so what ?
Title: Re: Harley M8 compression release failure.
Post by: rigidthumper on September 27, 2020, 09:46:04 AM
ACRs vent the pressure into the exhaust port, via complex holes/passageways machined into the top of the heads & exhaust ports, via an electronic valve operated by the ECM.
MCRs vent the pressure into the atmosphere via a small ( 3/32") drilled passageway to a 10mm x 1 threaded hole, 5/8" deep, next to the spark plug, using a manual (thumb operated) valve.
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Post by: Hossamania on September 27, 2020, 03:58:50 PM
If you put manual releases into the electric release position, you would not be able to push the button on the manual release.
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Post by: Ohio HD on September 27, 2020, 04:04:47 PM
You can't put a manual release where an auto release is, the threaded holes are different sizes. 
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Post by: D-1 on December 01, 2020, 07:22:30 PM
Got one from a 2020 FXLRS has done the same thing. No damage in combustion chamber. No complaint from customer, just pulled it down for big bore kit.