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Dyno & Tuning Zone => AFR & Tuning Zone => Topic started by: Ohio HD on March 24, 2023, 11:54:36 AM

Title: Throttle Body - Cable vs. TBW
Post by: Ohio HD on March 24, 2023, 11:54:36 AM
I seem to remember that in general, a cable operated throttle body of a given bore, we'll say a 58mm will flow better peak numbers than a 58mm TBW. Is that the case? Or maybe I'm not remembering correctly.

For the sake of argument, lets assume they're both HPI models.
Title: Re: Throttle Body - Cable vs. TBW
Post by: Coyote on March 24, 2023, 11:55:36 AM
I can't imagine why.
Title: Re: Throttle Body - Cable vs. TBW
Post by: Ohio HD on March 24, 2023, 11:57:44 AM
What I think I read was that the TBW throttle plate may not be open 100%. I can't find where I read that, so I want to see if any of our tuners can confirm.
Title: Re: Throttle Body - Cable vs. TBW
Post by: hrdtail78 on March 25, 2023, 05:42:22 AM
 I can't see what controls the throttle blade affecting this.  TB not hitting 100% will affect flow bench numbers but if it can open up enough to get all of atmosphere pressure into the cylinder. It's not a choke point, and does it really matter?  I pay attention to KPA more than actual blade angle.

I got the choice this winter if I wanted to run cable or electronic on a max effort build. TBW for the win because of the control over things. 
Title: Re: Throttle Body - Cable vs. TBW
Post by: Ohio HD on March 25, 2023, 06:36:00 AM
I forgot about the detail of kpa coming into play when tuning, as well as throttle blade control. As you mentioned it's not a strictly air flow number to win.

Maybe I was remembering this from something I read regarding Twin Cams, the OEM differences of the factory TBW being 50mm and the cable TB being 46mm.