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Title: Check engine light stays on
Post by: fleetmechanic on June 02, 2022, 01:47:16 PM
I just replaced a 4 year old battery on a 2011 FLHTP.  Starts and runs fine, but the check engine light stays on.  Did a WOW test and no codes showed anywhere.
Should I use the old Scanalyzer to see if there are any historic codes?  This one does not have ABS brakes. 43,500 mi.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: Coyote on June 02, 2022, 01:53:27 PM
What exactly does the check engine light do when you turn on the ignition. Watch it closely at turn on and report.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: fleetmechanic on June 02, 2022, 02:11:34 PM
When Ignition switch is turned on, the light comes on and then goes off briefly once and then stays on even after the bike is running.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: Coyote on June 02, 2022, 02:29:35 PM
Then you have active codes set that can be read via the speedometer.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: fleetmechanic on June 02, 2022, 02:31:04 PM
I did check for codes in the speedo and there were none in any category.  I'll look again.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: Coyote on June 02, 2022, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: fleetmechanic on June 02, 2022, 02:31:04 PMI'll look again.

Yep  :up:
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: fleetmechanic on June 02, 2022, 02:35:27 PM
I thought the "P" setting was just part no. info but I checked and pulled 5 codes.  I'll get to work.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: fleetmechanic on June 02, 2022, 02:52:24 PM
The only one that won't clear is PO113 relating to the IAT and TMAP sensor area.  I've seen broken wires at the TMAP sockets before so I'll look for that.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: Coyote on June 02, 2022, 03:11:35 PM
I've seen them break up where the wire goes into the backbone. The harness was a little short I think.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: fleetmechanic on June 02, 2022, 05:21:20 PM
And the wires are thin.  I've this on at least two of our other 2011-12s.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: fleetmechanic on June 06, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
I unplugged the MAP sensor plug and all four wires and sockets were intact, bur a voltage check from the ECM showed no voltage.  I will check the continuity of each wire to the ECM harness plug and I will check the TCA plug for fretting corrosion.
But all the test sequences end with "replace ECM" as the last step. How common is ECM failure in these bikes from the preteen years?
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: Coyote on June 07, 2022, 05:04:40 AM
Never seen a bad ecm. Already told you where I'd be looking. 
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: fleetmechanic on June 07, 2022, 06:16:15 AM
I'll remove the tank and check there next.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: fleetmechanic on June 10, 2022, 08:44:26 AM
All wires up to and along the frame seemed fine.  Went back to the TMAP plug and The ground wire broke at the terminal with very little pull.
Added heavier gauge wire to the ground and the green wire and replaced the sockets and seals and no more codes showing.
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: kd on June 10, 2022, 12:57:19 PM
 :up:
Title: Re: Check engine light stays on
Post by: Norton Commando on June 11, 2022, 04:19:40 AM
Quote from: fleetmechanic on June 10, 2022, 08:44:26 AMAll wires up to and along the frame seemed fine.  Went back to the TMAP plug and The ground wire broke at the terminal with very little pull.
Added heavier gauge wire to the ground and the green wire and replaced the sockets and seals and no more codes showing.

Thank you for the feedback!

Jason