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Title: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JamesButler on December 05, 2017, 04:31:34 PM
Need help identifying some stock parts of the '86 FXRC.  It was the two-tone burgundy and black model.

Specifically:

Engine color: were the jugs and case wrinkle black or aluminum? Or a combination of the two, e.g., case =aluminum and jugs = wrinkle black?

Front wheel was a 19"-wire spoked?

Rear wheel solid aluminum or wire spoked?

Seat was a two-tone black & grey, hinged w/ latch?

Can't seem to find consistent "images" on any of the search engines. So, any photos of a stock '86 FXRC would be appreciated.
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: Breeze on December 06, 2017, 04:51:59 AM
My HD data book references '86 FXRT and FXRS "Liberty Editions", but no FXRC.  Bikez web page also does not show FXRC.
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: guppymech on December 06, 2017, 05:19:47 AM
In Girdler's book Illustrated H-D buyers Guide he has a pic and description of a '85 FXRC in candy rootbeer with blonde and chrome engine, disc rear wheel and 19" spoked front.  I saw one back in the day, very nice!
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JamesButler on December 06, 2017, 08:28:09 AM
Quote from: guppymech on December 06, 2017, 05:19:47 AM
In Girdler's book Illustrated H-D buyers Guide he has a pic and description of a '85 FXRC in candy rootbeer with blonde and chrome engine, disc rear wheel and 19" spoked front.  I saw one back in the day, very nice!

Yeah, the MoCo produced the FXRC from '85-'87.

The '85 model came stock with the solid candy rootbeer paint scheme, 19" front wire-spoked and 16" rear wire spoked wheels, brown pillow latch and hinge seat. Unique looking with that brown pillow seat...

The '87 model came stock with the two-toned blue and black paint scheme, solid aluminum rear wheel for sure.  Front wheel was either the 9-spoked mag or the 19"-wire-spoked wheel.  Seat was a latch and hinge, either all black or two-toned (black w/ a grey strip running down the middle).  The unique feature of the '87 was that it was the only production FXR to have a non-black frame.  It was blue and matched the blue of the tins.

BUT GETTING BACK TO THE '86 version, I found out that the '86 definitely came stock with the wrinkle black engine and 19"-wire spoked front wheel. 

But still need to find out if the rear wheel was wire-spoked like the '85 version or solid aluminum like the '87 version.  Likewise, was the seat solid black or two toned (blk w/ grey strip)?

Is it likely that the dealerships had a little more "freedom" back in '86, when the MoCo wasn't as uniform and organized, to possibly downgrade the rear wheel to a 19" wire-spoked and then re-sell the solid rear as a stock "custom upgrade"?
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JamesButler on December 06, 2017, 08:33:50 AM
Quote from: Breeze on December 06, 2017, 04:51:59 AM
My HD data book references '86 FXRT and FXRS "Liberty Editions", but no FXRC.  Bikez web page also does not show FXRC.

Not surprising.  The MoCo was not as organized with keeping data and records back in the mid-80's, as the culture then was still not computer savvy. A google images or any search engine image search of "1986 FXRC" will show the model.  However, there are not enough photos to provide any consistency regarding the rear wheel and seat. 

From the images I have seen, I am leaning towards them being a wire-spoked rear wheel and a solid black seat, but would like some corroboration from some previous or current owners or those who are in the know.
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JamesButler on December 06, 2017, 03:07:37 PM
Nobody has an '86 parts catalog they could refer to for me.  I only have catalogs from '87-'94.   :rtfb:  :doh:  :nix:
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JW113 on December 06, 2017, 05:58:13 PM
Who the heck needs parts manuals? It's all on line!

http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/stcharlesharleydavidson/showmodel.asp?make=hdmc (http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/stcharlesharleydavidson/showmodel.asp?make=hdmc)

Yes, I see your model there under 1986. See the seat, no listing for wheels. Must be same as FXRS?

-JW
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: nibroc on December 06, 2017, 06:21:21 PM
good one JW except it only goes back to '79
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JW113 on December 06, 2017, 06:39:27 PM
Yep, so true. They changed it earlier this year, used to go WAY back. Bastards!!!

-JW
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: bootit on December 07, 2017, 03:18:29 AM
The 84-86 fxr parts book has two small sections in the back. Late 85 fxrc The front wheel 43312-84 19" spoke, the rear wheel 40951-82 16" No listing in the late 86 fxrc for wheels. The late 85 shows the seats are brown The late 86 shows the seats, different part #s no colour. The late 86 section shows the crankcases & heads as wrinkle black, no reference to cylinders.
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JamesButler on December 07, 2017, 07:32:24 AM
Quote from: bootit on December 07, 2017, 03:18:29 AM
The 84-86 fxr parts book has two small sections in the back. Late 85 fxrc The front wheel 43312-84 19" spoke, the rear wheel 40951-82 16" No listing in the late 86 fxrc for wheels. The late 85 shows the seats are brown The late 86 shows the seats, different part #s no colour. The late 86 section shows the crankcases & heads as wrinkle black, no reference to cylinders.
Thanks for the help.  I'm guessing "late '85" transitions into "early '86", but not 100% on that guess.  If so, then the early production #'s of the '86 FXRC would probably use the late '85 parts, such as the wire laced rear wheel #40951-82, which you provided.  :up: 

The online catalog (link below) that I just discovered gives the late '86 seat part #52188-86, which is different than the late '87 part# that it gives as 52188-87.  The slight change from -87 to -88 suggests that they are similar seats, except for a minor difference. In this case, I think the -86 is all black while the -87 is the same style black seat, except with the grey strip running in the center.

In addition, it shows the late '87 wheel as part #41059-87 (Disc Blk.).  I always thought that the rear disc wheel was aluminum, but after looking at images more closely, it is black.

The online catalog also jibes with all the other info you provided.  So, thanks again for taking the time to provide some solid intel.



Quote from: JW113 on December 06, 2017, 05:58:13 PM
Who the heck needs parts manuals? It's all on line!

http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/stcharlesharleydavidson/showmodel.asp?make=hdmc (http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/stcharlesharleydavidson/showmodel.asp?make=hdmc)

Yes, I see your model there under 1986. See the seat, no listing for wheels. Must be same as FXRS?
-JW
Thanks for effort and the link to the online parts catalog.   While the online catalogs are helpful most of the time, unfortunately, in this case, it's not 100% accurate or reliable.   :doh: 

While it shows the correct p/n correct for the seat (#52188-86), the image is incorrect  In addition it designates the FXRC as a "CS" when it should be designated as "EJ".  Also, it doesn't include either the '85 or '87 FXRC.

I did however find another online parts catalog that goes as far back to 1941 and includes more info on all the FXRC models.  Here's the link for you:

https://www.dodgecityharleydavidson.com/OEMpartfinder.htm# (https://www.dodgecityharleydavidson.com/OEMpartfinder.htm#)
     
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JW113 on December 07, 2017, 07:52:20 AM
Hey right on man! That's the same one that St. Charles used to have before they changed it.

Thanks!

-JW
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: Hybredhog on December 07, 2017, 09:49:31 AM
   I was at a dealership in '85 & I remember the FXRC as a burnt orange/ or Tangerine, with wire wheels, silver engine/chrome, and a small commemorative #  plate on the tank dash. The one we sold was 1 of I think 900? 
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: FSG on December 07, 2017, 12:01:06 PM
Quote from: JW113 on December 06, 2017, 06:39:27 PM
Yep, so true. They changed it earlier this year, used to go WAY back. Bastards!!!

-JW

I think they (Dealers/Parts Supplys) have been given little or no option but to use the HLSM Online Microfiche, the HD System or nothing at all, there are still a few that use the ARI Partstream System.


Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JamesButler on December 07, 2017, 12:30:39 PM
Quote from: jeffscycle on December 07, 2017, 09:49:31 AM
   I was at a dealership in '85 & I remember the FXRC as a burnt orange/ or Tangerine, with wire wheels, silver engine/chrome, and a small commemorative #  plate on the tank dash. The one we sold was 1 of I think 900?

Some call it candy root-beer.  Don't forget the brown seat.
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JamesButler on July 16, 2018, 07:51:17 PM
Anyone have the gold trimmed dash for the '86 FXRC, or the gold "Custom" decal for the fork cover, and /or the gold trim inserts for the fender strut covers?

Also, does anyone know what the stock '86 FXRC air-cleaner insert trim reads below the "Eighty Cubic Inches"?
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: Deye76 on July 17, 2018, 07:21:53 AM
I've found my local dealer to have parts books and diagrams & they copied some for me while I was revamping my 92 RP. Might try a dealer.
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: bakerfxr on February 21, 2019, 07:29:49 AM
this is the most info ive seen on the 86fxrc. i found it on the web. i own #487 of 1250. that elvis guy in cali has a lot of parts. ive never ordered from him.
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: hbkeith on February 22, 2019, 12:39:10 AM
Quote from: Deye76 on July 17, 2018, 07:21:53 AM
I've found my local dealer to have parts books and diagrams & they copied some for me while I was revamping my 92 RP. Might try a dealer.
,  :agree:  try a dealer that's been around since the 80,s
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: Breeze on February 22, 2019, 03:32:06 AM
Try a thread that hasn't been around since 2017.  :potstir:
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: JamesButler on February 22, 2019, 06:01:27 AM
Quote from: bakerfxr on February 21, 2019, 07:29:49 AM
this is the most info ive seen on the 86fxrc. i found it on the web. i own #487 of 1250. that elvis guy in cali has a lot of parts. ive never ordered from him.

Thanks.  I found the brochure that you posted on eBay a few months back.  Turns out that the seller lived only 10 mins away from me... Any pics of your #487?
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: david lee on February 22, 2019, 09:38:17 PM
Quote from: JW113 on December 06, 2017, 05:58:13 PM
Who the heck needs parts manuals? It's all on line!

http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/stcharlesharleydavidson/showmodel.asp?make=hdmc (http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/stcharlesharleydavidson/showmodel.asp?make=hdmc)

Yes, I see your model there under 1986. See the seat, no listing for wheels. Must be same as FXRS?

-JW
thats if you got a computer
Title: Re: '86 FXRC specs
Post by: bakerfxr on February 23, 2019, 04:54:07 AM
heres one on the lift for the mid control/2 into1 / new carb swap. still a couple back brake fittings and master cylinder boot away from done. did a quick no back brake test drive and it ran better than expected as the carb is out of box with no tuning other than an educated guess on jetting