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Title: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: bobrk1 on December 17, 2018, 04:14:19 PM
Putting  in a S & S crate  motor  comes with  a  carb and ignition , was told  that new wiring  harness  is needed ,  I  think  wiring  in ignition  it will  be  fine  but  told a lot of things  like  blinkers won't  work , anyone  done  this  what  did you  have  to  do? Thanks 
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: Hossamania on December 17, 2018, 04:15:46 PM
Start by telling us which year and model.
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: bobrk1 on December 17, 2018, 04:34:28 PM
Sorry  96 road  king 
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: rigidthumper on December 18, 2018, 06:50:37 AM
The turn signals, brake lamps, headlight, etc, should all be fine.
The ignition harness will be different, as you are removing the ECM and it's associated wiring. The carb harness for the 1996 RK ignition module is 32435-94. I believe you will need it, or its equivalent from an aftermarket producer.
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: kd on December 18, 2018, 03:35:23 PM
This just in .....  Just up on tech tips today.

http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=107125.0
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: Mick93 on December 19, 2018, 01:47:38 AM
We are in the process of doing exactly this to a 97 Road King....

just done a conversion to convert the 80" to 96" after a major blowup
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: capn on December 19, 2018, 03:53:17 AM
If you are putting that S&S carb motor into a mm fuel injected bike it wont work because the flywheel needs to be notched for fuel injection. If you are doing away with fuel injection and keeping the S&S carb and ignition it will work and you dont need a new wiring harness.
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: thumper 823 on December 24, 2018, 04:37:18 AM
In my opinion, it is just on the other side of insane to go From crab to FI without a good reason.
The ONLY reason I can fathom is adding a turbo or some other Artificial induction.
A carb is about as fail proof as one can get.
I dont feel that way at all about sensors, computers, injectors and all sorts of other crap that can make you get towed.
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: PoorUB on December 24, 2018, 07:17:33 AM
I was wondering how long it would take for a "carb lover" to pipe up!  :hyst:

I don't know why anyone would want a carb compared to Dephi EFI! I have run both over the years and will take EFI. As for the dependability argument we don't see that many problems posted here on EFI. It is a very dependable system.
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: Deye76 on December 24, 2018, 08:04:36 AM
Delphi is very dependable. MM on the other hand, over time, is frustrating at best. In the case of MM, carb is the way to go.
 
Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: turboprop on December 24, 2018, 08:37:30 AM
As usual, nobody actually reads or answers what this or any OP asks. Good grief.

OP - That S&S engine could come with couple different ignition systems. If it comes with the module inside the cam cover, there is no wiring harness required as the module gets wired directly to the coil and VOES switch. The only place the oem harness will touch the ignition system is a switched 12 VDC lead to the coil. Done.  If the engine is coming with their (S&S) external module that includes a knock sensor, then it will require a specific harness from S&S, not the factory. I have done this both ways, all of the bikes electrical functions will not be affected by either type of ignition system.


Title: Re: changing to carb from fuel injection
Post by: bobrk1 on December 27, 2018, 05:04:45 AM
Thanks  again