Redshift 576 or Tman 580-590 or Woods 6H

[HardLuck71]

Hey all, I'm looking to get more out of my build and want to swap out my Feuling 574 cams as I'm not too impressed with the performance of them and I'm looking for more tq and midrange, 2300-5200 rpm. I have 03 Night Train with 98" S&S, S&S cam chest kit, S&S 79cc superstock heads, S&S 52mm TB w/ 5.12 grams/sec at 58 psi fuel injectors, Arlen Ness Monster Sucker, Rinehart Crossbacks and tuning with PV. I was looking at the 3 cams mentioned in the subject line and I would really appreciate some feedback and I'm up to other suggestions also. Thanks

[TorQuePimp]

Happen to know what your static compression is or CCP?

[Hillside Motorcycle]

If setting the squeeze at 10.3, then the 6H will push the torque, hard, if looking for that.

[HardLuck71]

I'll be around 10.5-10.8 and ccp will be around 205

[itsafatboy]

at 10.8 , maybe the woods TW8G , they are great cams , but a little noisy sometimes or maybe the TMAN 625 Cam if still around

I liked the Tw8G , low overlap quick ramps I ran it in a 116" got 132/140 but it was a little short for the 116" so went to TW9BG + 2 , works well .

just my opinion though there are a lot of cams out there now , but that 8G sure worked well   

[HardLuck71]

That's bigger than I want to go, I'm looking more for lower end tq and some midrange, not hp or a cam that peaks at 5-6k, but thanks for your opinion

[HardLuck71]

If setting the squeeze at 10.3, then the 6H will push the torque, hard, if looking for that.

What's the highest comp that can be ran with the 6H?

[Frédéric CM]

10.8 with 590PS2 is a blast to ride

[TorQuePimp]

@10.5 comp 3103 or RS 576

@10.8 arsenal 610

No valve train noise and no woods tax

[Durwood]

Now that all the favorites are being suggested and aren't on the list of the OP. I would like to add the CR-595's.

My favorite cam for 10.8-11:1. Hit's early, stays late and the valve train is very quiet.
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[HardLuck71]

Now that all the favorites are being suggested and aren't on the list of the OP. I would like to add the CR-595's.

My favorite cam for 10.8-11:1. Hit's early, stays late and the valve train is very quiet.
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That's funny you suggest that cam cause I was looking at some dyno sheets and reviews on the CR595 and tried looking for somewhere I could pirchase them but I can't find em for 99'-06' twin cam, only for 07'-up. Do you by chance know who might carry them and do they even come in the older " silent chain " style for my 03'? Thanks

[HardLuck71]

10.8 with 590PS2 is a blast to ride

Do the 590's come on early at 10.8? Thanks

[838]

10.8 with 590PS2 is a blast to ride

Do the 590's come on early at 10.8? Thanks

I was told by a tech at tman you could run this up to 11.1:1.

[Yo_Boss]

Forget that CR595 there are way better cams for low end torque in a 98 motor. Andrews 57, CR 570 to name a couple.

[rhuff]

10.8 with 590PS2 is a blast to ride

Do the 590's come on early at 10.8? Thanks

Very early.  My 2003 RK is at 10.85 and it rips down low and carries out to the red line. 

[Durwood]

Forget that CR595 there are way better cams for low end torque in a 98 motor. Andrews 57, CR 570 to name a couple.

Curious. Have you ever ridden a bike set up @ 10.8-11:1 with CR-595's ?

After tuning and riding builds of varying CID with the CR-595's, I have found quite the opposite to be true.

[838]

What would be the difference between the .590 woods 6H, the tr590 and the CR595 for the 98" (assuming they're all set up correctly)??

[838]

Now that all the favorites are being suggested and aren't on the list of the OP. I would like to add the CR-595's.

My favorite cam for 10.8-11:1. Hit's early, stays late and the valve train is very quiet.
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That's funny you suggest that cam cause I was looking at some dyno sheets and reviews on the CR595 and tried looking for somewhere I could pirchase them but I can't find em for 99'-06' twin cam, only for 07'-up. Do you by chance know who might carry them and do they even come in the older " silent chain " style for my 03'? Thanks

http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=105628.msg1255128

[Hilly13]

10.8 with 590PS2 is a blast to ride

Do the 590's come on early at 10.8? Thanks

Very early.  My 2003 RK is at 10.85 and it rips down low and carries out to the red line.

I have the new version 590ps in my slim, it's somewhere between 10.2-10.5, must measure it one-day, goes well, that woods 6 is a good cam though, right comp and supporting components it fair rips, the newer cam profiles might be a bit harder to find for your early model dyna(edit, Softail) as I'm sure you have already figured out.

[IronMike113]

Do you have a current Dyno Chart??? Of your build (Hardluck)

[838]

If setting the squeeze at 10.3, then the 6H will push the torque, hard, if looking for that.

What's the highest comp that can be ran with the 6H?

Bump, also attempting to get an answer to this question. Max CCP...?

[Yo_Boss]

Now that all the favorites are being suggested and aren't on the list of the OP. I would like to add the CR-595's.

My favorite cam for 10.8-11:1. Hit's early, stays late and the valve train is very quiet.
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That dyno is for a 110 not a 98 as the OP has. Huge difference, the CR595 will be a dog in that 98 down low.

[Durwood]

Now that all the favorites are being suggested and aren't on the list of the OP. I would like to add the CR-595's.

My favorite cam for 10.8-11:1. Hit's early, stays late and the valve train is very quiet.
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That dyno is for a 110 not a 98 as the OP has. Huge difference, the CR595 will be a dog in that 98 down low.

The graph shows the broad curve that these cams make in no matter what cubic inch engine so long as they are set up correctly.

There is a link to a 98" dyno thread with these cams just a couple posts above.

Remember that all aspects including exhaust need to be addressed to make any cam work.

[HardLuck71]

Do you have a current Dyno Chart??? Of your build (Hardluck)

This is my current build

03 Night Train
S&S 98", S&S cam plate & oil pump ( w/ upgraded hydraulic tensioners )
S&S 79cc Super Stock heads ( 10.6:1 cr ) about 201 ccp
S&S 52mm throttle body, S&S fuel rail kit with 5.2 or 5.3 injectors
CP domed pistons ( 6.3cc on spec sheet from cp )
Fueling 574 cams
Rinehart Crossbacks exhaust
Power Vision


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[HardLuck71]

at 10.8 , maybe the woods TW8G , they are great cams , but a little noisy sometimes or maybe the TMAN 625 Cam if still around

I liked the Tw8G , low overlap quick ramps I ran it in a 116" got 132/140 but it was a little short for the 116" so went to TW9BG + 2 , works well .

just my opinion though there are a lot of cams out there now , but that 8G sure worked well

Actually I've been really looking at that Tman 625 after I did some more research on it as I didn't know the Intake Closes at 41, but wouldn't I then have to run roller rockers with a .625 lift?

Also, anyone have any experience with Revtech roller rockers or Sifton? Yea I know, and trust me I want to go with S&S but funds are running a bit low after cam swap & head work as I'm having a house built and need to start putting money away for dp, but I don't wanna cheap out too much, just something cheaper that will holdme over for a year or two and then I'll put S&S rollers in. Thanks all