HarleyTechTalk

Technical Forums => Pan Head => Topic started by: oregonpackrat on June 08, 2018, 12:15:42 PM

Title: 48 was converted to foot-shift, can I use, with mods, the same trans top?
Post by: oregonpackrat on June 08, 2018, 12:15:42 PM
If I removed the ratchet and adapted the correct lever, would it work?
Title: Re: 48 was converted to foot-shift, can I use, with mods, the same trans top?
Post by: guppymech on June 09, 2018, 07:57:42 AM
If I understand correctly, you want to go back to hand shift?  The foot shift and hand shift trans tops are different.  The hand shift shifter drum has detents in its circumference that locate the drum with a spring and ball in each gear with no positive stop. You could connect the hand shifter to the ratchet mechanism, then you'd have a sequential shifter that you bump forward and aft to shift  like the foot shift lever.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8i7WozrKRww/UJLFRm5mM5I/AAAAAAAABss/v-YnhqrHBfA/s600/lids2.JPG)
Title: Re: 48 was converted to foot-shift, can I use, with mods, the same trans top?
Post by: oregonpackrat on June 09, 2018, 08:35:06 AM
Thank you for the explanation, and the photos.  I do want to go back to stock, so now I understand that I will need a new transmission top.  Will it bolt right on to the case? It looks like the whole case is different?
Title: Re: 48 was converted to foot-shift, can I use, with mods, the same trans top?
Post by: guppymech on June 09, 2018, 08:52:52 AM
That was just a pic I grabbed off the web, those two tops do look to be different sizes.  I have a friend that's building a '65 with a hand shift and he has both ratchet and hand shift tops and they interchange with no problems on his trans.  Looks like you're going to need some input from somebody with more knowledge than I have.  Do you know what year your trans is? 
Title: Re: 48 was converted to foot-shift, can I use, with mods, the same trans top?
Post by: oregonpackrat on June 09, 2018, 08:54:56 AM
Not conclusively, no.  Its in a 48, but I have not identified it yet.   Any idea where numbers are?
Title: Re: 48 was converted to foot-shift, can I use, with mods, the same trans top?
Post by: packrat56 on June 09, 2018, 09:12:16 AM
  This might help
  http://www.hydra-glide.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15569 (http://www.hydra-glide.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15569)
Title: Re: 48 was converted to foot-shift, can I use, with mods, the same trans top?
Post by: guppymech on June 09, 2018, 11:43:08 AM
You could also read through this thread (that's where I got that pic).
http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76812 (http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76812)
My buddy with the '65 just told me the trans tops will interchange, no matter what that pic looks like.  The gasket for the top dates from 1936, p/n 34824-36.
Title: Re: 48 was converted to foot-shift, can I use, with mods, the same trans top?
Post by: CraigArizona85248 on July 06, 2018, 09:48:46 PM
The trans tops from '36 up until around the me '70s are all interchangeable. The lids in the photo above are the same size. It's an optical illusion that makes them look like different sizes.


-craig