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Title: Trans flush
Post by: 76shuvlinoff on April 18, 2021, 07:06:39 PM
 Been running shockproof heavy for 18 years, time to drain and refill again. I'd like to flush it out this time. I was thinking about draining, refilling with kerosene, running a 1/2 mile, draining and refilling with fresh SP Heavy.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: kd on April 18, 2021, 07:38:56 PM
I would probably chose a light engine or ATF oil if it were me.  Run it till it's right up to temp and dump it. Maybe a static flush with varsol or the like after to chase out anything left caught up in the oil cling before refilling. 
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: Hossamania on April 18, 2021, 07:52:19 PM
I agree with the atf rather than kerosene.
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: 76shuvlinoff on April 19, 2021, 02:40:58 AM
Thanks gents.

Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: bump on April 19, 2021, 03:32:18 AM
The old flathead 80" manual stated to drain oil from oil bag and transmission. Fill with kerosene, run for 5 minutes. Drain kerosene and fill with oil. Do this at every oil change.
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: Hossamania on April 19, 2021, 06:08:44 AM
Quote from: bump on April 19, 2021, 03:32:18 AM
The old flathead 80" manual stated to drain oil from oil bag and transmission. Fill with kerosene, run for 5 minutes. Drain kerosene and fill with oil. Do this at every oil change.

I think that is from a time when oil was far inferior to the blends now offered. Not saying it's not a good idea, just that oil back then was pretty crude and dirty.
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: Burnout on April 19, 2021, 07:25:44 AM
Don't fix it, if it ain't broke.

If there is anything significant to flush out, you need a trans rebuild...
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: JW113 on April 19, 2021, 08:40:35 AM
Bingo! There is nothing in there to worry about. Take it out for a ride, drain the oil hot, refill & you're done.

-JW
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: turboprop on April 19, 2021, 08:41:01 AM
Quote from: Burnout on April 19, 2021, 07:25:44 AM
Don't fix it, if it ain't broke.

If there is anything significant to flush out, you need a trans rebuild...


You have never run Red Line transmission oil with Shockproof?
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: 76shuvlinoff on April 19, 2021, 02:14:06 PM
Quote from: JW113 on April 19, 2021, 08:40:35 AM
Bingo! There is nothing in there to worry about. Take it out for a ride, drain the oil hot, refill & you're done.

-JW

Hoping to thin the leftover pepto down so it all drains, or at least as much as I can get.
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: 76shuvlinoff on April 19, 2021, 02:18:50 PM
Quote from: bump on April 19, 2021, 03:32:18 AM
The old flathead 80" manual stated to drain oil from oil bag and transmission. Fill with kerosene, run for 5 minutes. Drain kerosene and fill with oil. Do this at every oil change.

When I got this bike in 94 I pulled the oil tank.  It took a large flathead screwdriver to remove the putty from the bottom of the oil tank. After that it was brake cleaner and kerosene to make it shiny.
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: JW113 on April 19, 2021, 04:08:22 PM
Oil in "the good old days" didn't have the kind of detergents in it like the modern stuff has. Not to mention, today's fuel does not contain lead. When I was a gas station mechanic back in the '70s, you would not believe what I saw when pulling oil pans and valve covers on car motors. THAT was why they said to never put detergent oil in cars that had been run on non-detergent. If you do, you break up all that stuff that's gelled in place and plug the motor with it.

-JW
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: Dan89flstc on April 20, 2021, 07:09:07 AM
Quote from: turboprop on April 19, 2021, 08:41:01 AM
Quote from: Burnout on April 19, 2021, 07:25:44 AM
Don't fix it, if it ain't broke.

If there is anything significant to flush out, you need a trans rebuild...


You have never run Red Line transmission oil with Shockproof?

It is gear lube, not contamination.

A simple oil change will remove most of the lube, and down the road the next change will probably get the rest.
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: turboprop on April 20, 2021, 07:50:16 AM
Quote from: Dan89flstc on April 20, 2021, 07:09:07 AM
Quote from: turboprop on April 19, 2021, 08:41:01 AM
Quote from: Burnout on April 19, 2021, 07:25:44 AM
Don't fix it, if it ain't broke.

If there is anything significant to flush out, you need a trans rebuild...


You have never run Red Line transmission oil with Shockproof?

It is gear lube, not contamination.

A simple oil change will remove most of the lube, and down the road the next change will probably get the rest.

That pink Hydroshock sticks to everything better than anything I have ever seen. Simply draining it doesn't work. It has to be flushed with some type of solvent to get it out.
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: Coyote on April 20, 2021, 09:32:37 AM
I had to use break clean to get the HDShock out of my two transmissions. And not that CA crap, had to be the real stuff. But I had the transmission apart, not just flushing it. Stuff is sticky as hell.
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: FSG on April 20, 2021, 12:54:50 PM
throw some Shockproof Light (green/turquoise) in there for a while   :SM:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZMlkmMW.png)
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: 76shuvlinoff on May 02, 2021, 05:21:47 AM
Back to this... I still have not flushed the trans. The shockproof in there doesn't have 4000 miles on it but it is several years old.  Still got that on the list though.

I was having downshift issues with the lever not returning to center for the next downshift.  Turns out I had a heim joint in the linkage seizing up.   

  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Trans flush
Post by: kd on May 02, 2021, 05:48:38 AM
Geeze 76.  You were holdin back information on us.  We coulda helped you find that.  :wink: