2.25" and 2.375" big deep oval K&N for old football and oval CVO covers.

Started by dave brode, January 11, 2019, 08:24:03 AM

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dave brode

Anyone used one of these?

https://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?prod=RK-3910-1

Looks like it'd flow better than the typical round filters. Oddly, they only offer the 2.25" in the older "carb" bolt pattern. Others are 1.625" thick.

Thinner filter in the newest efi bolt pattern.
https://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?prod=RK-3930

Getting separate external breather lines out might prove to be a challenge.

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This one has a 2.375" deep element [takes the "ventilator" CVO covers too, maybe a stock one with the top/bottom wings cut off].
Looks to be easy to plumb external lines. No carb'd pattern offered though.
https://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?prod=RK-3952S

Here's  thread to a ventilator cover on it on an M8.
https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=117074.0

Dave

dave brode

Beware the older 3910 and 3910-1 football cover versions with flat back plate, custom stand-offs that protrude into a filter element that has req'd cut-outs. This earlier version is plentiful on ebay.

itsafatboy


speedzter

I had the older version fitted to a 113/mikuni setup for a while.
I modified the standoff's for external venting, easier with the early version, and made it easy
to remove the filter assembly to work on the Carby.
The internal rubber bell mouth is a bit flimsy, and doesn't fit that well.

Not a good shot, but you get the idea (you can see the Mikuni adapter):

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dave brode

Yes, I see what you mean on the stand off bolts being simpler. I bought a newer style yesterday for $100 shipped NIB, so I'll have to make it work.

dave brode

The newer style will be easy to vent externally. The element has rubber tits that block the passage from the heads [see pic]. The normal passages, which lead to the carb/TB throat, would be plugged, and the casting passages to the head could be drilled and tapped for fittings outboard of the head at the desired angle/location.

https://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?prod=E-3985

https://www.knfilters.com/images/l/RK-3930X_Alt.jpg

https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/knn-rk-3942.pdf

Dave



dave brode


speedzter

That is a large filter, at 3.375" it should flow !
I'm sure the one I used was only around 2.25"

Is the back-plate Aluminium ?, or plastic as it looks like in the pics ?


dave brode

Backing plate is powder coated cast alum. Similar to the cast oval one on the 110 CVO bikes.

I will believe 3.375" when I see it.

Filters in various other new style kits are listed as 1.625" and 2.188". The spacers for those are 1.50", and 2", respectively. The spacers listed for the RG-3930X kit are 2.5". That "should" make the filter 2.688", which isn't bad.

trex

Quote from: itsafatboy on January 11, 2019, 02:43:21 PM
I like these the extended depth one still tapered so fits cover nice

http://www.exotx.com/filters.htm
I like em too. been using them for years, glad I saw your comment as I was going to suggest a look at Exotx

ThumperDeuce

Quote from: trex on January 20, 2019, 08:55:47 AM
Quote from: itsafatboy on January 11, 2019, 02:43:21 PM
I like these the extended depth one still tapered so fits cover nice

http://www.exotx.com/filters.htm
I like em too. been using them for years, glad I saw your comment as I was going to suggest a look at Exotx

:up:
Idiots are fun, no wonder every village wants one.

dave brode

https://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?prod=E-3985

The E-3985 filter element [from the RK-3930X kit] is 2.625" thick, vs 2.188" or 1.625" for the smaller two elements used in other kits.

They incorrectly list it as 3.375" [which it does measure including the ring]. I even called and asked it the 3.375" dimension included the ring.....

Still, at 2.625", it looks to me like it should flow well. I see no rhyme nor reason why there are three different width elements in these similar kits. They all accept the football cover, afaik. The 3930X kit has the later efi pattern...

Dave
 

dave brode

This is the smaller filter, just showing these to illustrate how the nubs close off the passage from the heads. The longer stand off were $1 ish each. i