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Barnett clutch basket

Started by dheath9994, January 15, 2019, 03:51:45 PM

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dheath9994

Recently did a 110 kit. I did the top end, redid the crank completely, timken conversion the whole works so now my only concern is the clutch. I already have a Barnett spring with a VP clutch setup. I was gunna add a Barnett Kevlar +1 kit and so the Billet Aluminhm Barnett basket. Every post and video I find is about removing the entire hub. Can I leave the whole hub, chain and compensator assembly on the bike and remove just the basket? Barnett's description claims theres is a direct replacement for the OEM basket

dheath9994

Also if this helps with answers the bike is a 2016 street glide

Ohio HD

No, the basket and ring gear is an assembly.

turboprop

Quote from: dheath9994 on January 15, 2019, 03:51:45 PM
Recently did a 110 kit. I did the top end, redid the crank completely, timken conversion the whole works so now my only concern is the clutch. I already have a Barnett spring with a VP clutch setup. I was gunna add a Barnett Kevlar +1 kit and so the Billet Aluminhm Barnett basket. Every post and video I find is about removing the entire hub. Can I leave the whole hub, chain and compensator assembly on the bike and remove just the basket? Barnett's description claims theres is a direct replacement for the OEM basket

Makes sense. Try it. Let us know what you learn.
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dheath9994

 :hug: well just watched a video that it bolts on from the bad of the hub. That sucks guess it all has to come out

turboprop

Quote from: dheath9994 on January 15, 2019, 04:50:19 PM
:hug: well just watched a video that it bolts on from the bad of the hub. That sucks guess it all has to come out

Really? I did not know that. Would like to see that video showing how the basket bolts on to the back of the hub. Please share the link.
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N-gin

It's riveted.
I drilled the rivit and used a punch to remove. Then used the supplied 3/8 x 3/4 grade 8 bolts and lock tabs.
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turboprop

Quote from: N-gin on January 15, 2019, 06:24:18 PM
It's riveted.
I drilled the rivit and used a punch to remove. Then used the supplied 3/8 x 3/4 grade 8 bolts and lock tabs.

The OP is talking about replacing the basket.
'We' like this' - Said by the one man operation.

masstch

January 15, 2019, 09:41:02 PM #8 Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 10:08:43 PM by masstch
Quote from: turboprop link=topic=107459.msg1277131#msg1277131 date=

The OP is talking about replacing the basket.

Yes. The basket is riveted to the hub/ring gear assembly. Whether you buy a basket from Trask, Barnett or Evo Industries, the billet replacement baskets are provided with lock tabs and bolts and you have to drill out the rivets to attach the new basket. OEM doesn't sell the baskets separately, only the entire basket/hub assembly. Of course the OEM baskets are weak if you have a built engine.
Note the threaded holes in the new basket
This https://www.fixmyhog.com/video/harley-clutch-basket-failure-solution-010988/ is a sales pitch but the last few seconds show the bolt process and location.
Rhetorical questions, who still does those?

Hilly13

Turboprop, over here we would say that went straight to the keeper  :teeth:
Just because its said don't make it so

PoorUB

Good think he explained  that for Turboprop! He might not know! :hyst:
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

turboprop

Quote from: PoorUB on January 16, 2019, 04:14:20 AM
Good think he explained  that for Turboprop! He might not know! :hyst:

I think the OP's question was explained pretty clearly in his initial post.

Still real anxious to see the video of how the basket bolts to the back of the hub. 
'We' like this' - Said by the one man operation.

nosjunkie

Doesn't the hub press in from the back of the basket?
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Ohio HD

Clutch hub presses in from the front. Presses out from the back side.

turboprop

Quote from: nosjunkie on January 16, 2019, 08:42:47 AM
Doesn't the hub press in from the back of the basket?

It does, but the OP found a video showing the basket bolting on from the back. I want to see this.
'We' like this' - Said by the one man operation.

masstch

January 16, 2019, 01:06:10 PM #15 Last Edit: January 16, 2019, 01:45:09 PM by masstch
It seems there is a pile of sarcasm being tossed about.
I'm not the OP. I posted a video that shows the bolts being installed through the backside of the ring gear assembly (not the clutch hub) into the new basket. I erroneously referred to the ring gear assembly as the 'hub/ring gear assembly' The replacement (billet) basket still gets bolted to the front of the ring gear with bolts through the back side of the ring gear, regardless of the snark level in the room. Lots of folks come here looking for help. It seems like if you guys wanted to help OP you would point out that he has the name of the part wrong and help sort out the thought process. But of course it may be more entertaining for you to be arrogant and snarky. OMG! He said 'hub' when we all know he meant the ring gear!! Get 'im, boys!!! Yee-haw!

Also, when you tried to make game of dheath9994, you 'misquoted' him. He said 'bolted from', you changed it to 'bolted to' either trying to make him seem stupid or it was your misunderstanding...boy, you sure made him look dumb, huh?

Good job
Rhetorical questions, who still does those?

masstch

January 16, 2019, 01:56:56 PM #16 Last Edit: January 16, 2019, 02:01:18 PM by masstch
Quote from: turboprop on January 16, 2019, 09:26:08 AM

It does, but the OP found a video showing the basket bolting on from the back. I want to see this.

Here ya go.
(just in case the O.P. would like some clarity)

Rhetorical questions, who still does those?

turboprop

January 16, 2019, 02:24:23 PM #17 Last Edit: January 16, 2019, 02:28:46 PM by turboprop
Quote from: masstch on January 16, 2019, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: turboprop on January 16, 2019, 09:26:08 AM

It does, but the OP found a video showing the basket bolting on from the back. I want to see this.

Here ya go.
(just in case the O.P. would like some clarity)

Calm down Francis, it is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about. That is not the hub that is being bolted in. The hub presses into the bearing and is secured via a snap ring. Too funny but unfortunately way too common.
'We' like this' - Said by the one man operation.

PoorUB

Um, yeah, when did the conversation go from basket to ring gear?  :idunno:

At least one person wasn't paying attention! The OP never asked about the ring gear!
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

kd

Maybe I can help.  No dog in this show but the OP asks one question (in the last sentence) which requires a yes or a no.   :doh:  I say no.   :wink: 
KD

1FSTRK

Quote from: PoorUB on January 16, 2019, 02:29:57 PM
Um, yeah, when did the conversation go from basket to ring gear?  :idunno:

At least one person wasn't paying attention! The OP never asked about the ring gear!
The OP was fine.
Here is the post where the he miss spelled Back as Bad and used the work hub when he should have said basket.


Quote from: dheath9994 on January 15, 2019, 04:50:19 PM
:hug: well just watched a video that it bolts on from the bad of the hub. That sucks guess it all has to come out

"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

masstch

Quote from: turboprop on January 16, 2019, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: masstch on January 16, 2019, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: turboprop on January 16, 2019, 09:26:08 AM

It does, but the OP found a video showing the basket bolting on from the back. I want to see this.

Here ya go.
(just in case the O.P. would like some clarity)

Calm down Francis, it is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about. That is not the hub that is being bolted in. The hub presses into the bearing and is secured via a snap ring. Too funny but unfortunately way too common.
Actually, Julius, I have quite a clue what I'm talking about and am well versed in the task at hand. The pictures I posted are my broken baskets and the Trask basket is enroute. I will install it as soon as it arrives. I can send you labeled pictures if you'd like. I'm fully aware of the assembly sequence.
The part I can't figure out is exactly in which post you offered ANY help at all to the O.P.
I checked them all. You offered sarcasm and then a sort of dare "oh, yah, let me know if that works" followed by "oh I'd like to see that" all based on the O.P.'s mis-naming of components.
Not a single helpful comment that I could find where you corrected his misunderstanding.
Clearly, as I will assume you know, the O.P. used the wrong nomenclature for the parts he was intending to reference. In referring to the "whole sprocket compensator and chain assembly, he's clearly referring having to remove the ring gear/sprocket/basket assembly along with the chain and compensator. He's mistakenly using the term "hub" to refer to tessentially the entire clutch mechanism as one assembly. You know that. Everyone in this thread knows that... but he didn't call it by the right name, so you harp on that distinction while no-one bothers to explain the distinction to the O.P.
What GRADE are you in?
Go back and look. Which Turbo post was the *helpful* one?
N-Gin posted a perfectly factual statement referencing the basket removal/install and you called him out as if he got it wrong.... he didn't. I don't get ya , man.
Rhetorical questions, who still does those?

masstch

January 16, 2019, 03:15:31 PM #22 Last Edit: January 16, 2019, 04:19:51 PM by masstch
Quote from: PoorUB on January 16, 2019, 02:29:57 PM
Um, yeah, when did the conversation go from basket to ring gear?  :idunno:

At least one person wasn't paying attention! The OP never asked about the ring gear!

Actually, (as I said above) the OP was intending the entire assembly but erroneously calling it by the wrong name.... and he was trashed for it. Way to be "helpful", guys.
Rhetorical questions, who still does those?

turboprop

January 16, 2019, 03:25:03 PM #23 Last Edit: January 16, 2019, 03:56:59 PM by turboprop
Hahahahaha! Cant make this up. Seriously. You're just another online expert regurgitating something you saw online but dont really understand. You should really read more, post less.

PS - I can't stop laughing that you posted that picture of what you thought to be someone bolting the basket on to the back of a hub.
'We' like this' - Said by the one man operation.

masstch

Well, Darlene, let me explain it to you again, as you clearly  *remain* hung up on the word "hub" and you keep posting it up all over.
I posted a picture (again, notice that your pet word is not mentioned.)
(I'll Go slow for you...) of a billet clutch basket... being bolted to a ring gear assembly.... by way of bolts (supplied by Barnett with their billet basket) through the rivet holes in the ring gear assembly *from the back* of the ring gear assembly, into the billet clutch basket. Did you follow that time?  Notice also, Brainiac, that the post wherein I *quoted you* and posted the picture in response.... your pet word had nothing to do with that post, either.

I can't imagine how helpful your haranguing must be to the O.P.

Let us please try to assist the O.P.?
Rhetorical questions, who still does those?