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Technical Forums => Twin Cam => Topic started by: FSG on October 04, 2014, 09:47:34 PM

Title: ABS Bearing alternatives
Post by: FSG on October 04, 2014, 09:47:34 PM
Has anyone fitted PM Wheels to their ABS Bike and in doing so used the PM developed sensor ring which allows the use of a standard 6205 bearing and the PM ABS sensor ring instead of the OEM HD ABS bearing?

http://www.performancemachine.com/tech/installation/bulletins/PM-ABS-Wheel-Bulletin.zip (http://www.performancemachine.com/tech/installation/bulletins/PM-ABS-Wheel-Bulletin.zip)

I'm interested in pix of the actual PM Sensor, perhaps someone has already fitted this sensor and a 6205 bearing to a HD OEM Wheel or an aftermarket wheel other than a PM.
Title: Re: ABS Bearing alternatives
Post by: Lowcountry Joe on October 05, 2014, 03:58:35 AM
Gary
That's an interesting tech sheet.  Not much revealed with their choice of pictures though.  It sounds, on the surface, like they have tested the sensor ring to their satisfaction.  Guess it would be best to make a call to them and ask some questions.  I would like to know if that sensor ring would work with any wheel normally utilizing the standard 6205 bearing.  If the ring keeps it's thickness around 2-3 mm, stock spacers should still be able to be utilized as well.  Cost?
Title: Re: ABS Bearing alternatives
Post by: FSG on October 05, 2014, 04:08:56 PM
I've PM'd PM and await their reply. 

In the meantime I can see how it's being done in the cage industry.

(http://i.imgur.com/1pFrAwk.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/PNnV03O.png)
Title: Re: ABS Bearing alternatives
Post by: HD/Wrench on October 06, 2014, 05:31:19 AM
FSG

We have installed many many sets of PM wheels , and have not seen this update yet.  I have to wonder though if you get a ABS light and there is an issue how HD will deal with it under warranty..   Let us know what you find out..  :up:
Title: Re: ABS Bearing alternatives
Post by: FSG on October 06, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
OK, the most I could get out of PM was that the PM Sensor (actually the encoder) was only sold with a 6205 bearing and only available through PM Dealers and that the Part Number was 0071-3000.

Well armed with that information I went out and bought one. 
NOTE: The price is Oz$'s which contains the best part of a 75% margin, be interesting to see what price they are in the USA.

The bearing is:  NACHI 6205NSE C3    (nothing wrong with Nachi Bearings)

The encoder is:  52 x 32 x 3 mm

The axle spacer is: 31.75 x 25.1 x 3.5 mm 

The Orange Warning Label has a peel off backing and is used to hold the axle spacer into the encoder and hub while the wheel awaits installation back in a bike.

Depending on the bearing removal tool used I'd say the encoder would be reusable if bearings were required to be changed.

(https://i.imgur.com/jiN6Hlr.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/6VDWnL6.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/C2ilNwl.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/QTMQMJo.png)
Title: Re: ABS Bearing alternatives
Post by: rageglide on October 08, 2014, 09:45:07 PM
What holds that encoder ring in place once the wheel is installed?  The Sensor?  It looks to have a larger i.d. than the spacer for the sensor and would float...what keeps it from spinning/floating and throwing ABS codes?
Title: Re: ABS Bearing alternatives
Post by: FSG on October 09, 2014, 12:11:40 AM
The encoder ring will be a press fit, it's OD will hold it in position.
Title: Re: ABS Bearing alternatives
Post by: rageglide on October 09, 2014, 12:55:03 PM
 :up: