Thank you to those that mentioned keeping the spare fob on the bike with a battery installed backwards in case one forgets to bring his main fob.
Cant say I've ever needed an extra fob
I use the code if I go out to get the bike and forget it. :chop: vrroommmm!
Quote from: Ohio HD on March 18, 2020, 07:13:11 PM
I use the code if I go out to get the bike and forget it. :chop: vrroommmm!
Me too
Sometimes I'm too lazy to walk back up to the house to get the fob
:emoGroan:
it'd take me a bit to input the security code since I don't do it on a regular basis.....I could figure it out....just way more convenient, for me, to flip the battery over in the spare fob if I don't get the main battery changed in time...that reminds me...I have new batteries for my fobs that I should change soon.... :wink:
I know my PIN code and I have spare batteries in the glove box. If you leave a working FOB on the bike, then someone else can use it too.
i used to tape a spare battery to the bottom of my seat.
Quote from: HOGMIKE on March 18, 2020, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: Ohio HD on March 18, 2020, 07:13:11 PM
I use the code if I go out to get the bike and forget it. :chop: vrroommmm!
Me too
Sometimes I'm too lazy to walk back up to the house to get the fob
:emoGroan:
Well, yeah, guilty here too... :embarrassed:
How does one obtain this code? I bought my Tri glide used? Other than trying to contact the previous owner.
Quote from: Tireman on March 19, 2020, 03:37:29 AM
How does one obtain this code? I bought my Tri glide used? Other than trying to contact the previous owner.
There are wallet cards in the back of the owners manual, and it's also in the text of the o.manual. If you don't have a manual, do a search on this forum.
I also bought my bike used, no manual, no code. I will reset it this week.
FWIW, I found that comment a few years ago about putting the battery in backwards handy too. When we travel, my extra fob is in my wife's purse.
I remember the code....it's the procedure that I don't do often enuf and is fuzzy in my mind....I'm pretty sure I have it stored in my phone....if I could find it when needed....or given a bit of time I'm pretty sure I could figure it out and get running again.....just might take a bit of time....
Quote from: thumpr54 on March 19, 2020, 07:14:05 AM
I remember the code....it's the procedure that I don't do often enuf and is fuzzy in my mind....I'm pretty sure I have it stored in my phone....if I could find it when needed....or given a bit of time I'm pretty sure I could figure it out and get running again.....just might take a bit of time....
In the mean time your motorcycle is screaming "I'm being stolen" from all the test runs. :crook:
I just buy new batteries every year and put them in the tour pack and put the old ones from the tour pack into the fobs.
As long as you replace them every spring you probably don't need to carry spare batteries. I have bailed out a couple riders that their FOB battery died and tossed them my spare.
Quote from: Hossamania on March 19, 2020, 04:48:17 AM
I also bought my bike used, no manual, no code. I will reset it this week.
Hoss....The wife's bike was also used and had no code supplied when we bought it. I called the dealer and they could tell me where it was sold. I called the selling Dealer and they had the code on file.....easy peasy!
But, do you need the code to change the code? I have to read up on it, but I thought as long as you have the fob, turn the ignition on, and just go through the process to change the code.
Quote from: Hossamania on March 19, 2020, 10:24:21 AM
But, do you need the code to change the code? I have to read up on it, but I thought as long as you have the fob, turn the ignition on, and just go through the process to change the code.
No, you just need the bike disarmed by having the FOB near.
On my 06 the code is the last 4 digits of the vin # from the factory.You might start there,I don't think most people bother changing it. Coff 06
Hardly anybody ever changes the code.
I forget what the default code is now (might be 0000) but some years back when I owned a biker bar my partner (he was an H.A. member) used to jump on any bike that was parked out front/enter the code & ride off with it just breaking balls.
He only did it to dudes that where friends of ours, but he would come back after a short ride laughing his ass off with the owner trying to figure out how he did it LOL.
~John
Modern tech huh. :idunno: Last year on my 15, decent spring evening, thought oh man get the bike out for the first time. Hadn't fooled with the code since I had it. Go out to garage, main fob dead, get spare, dead also. :turd: Well I buy the batteries in bulk now.
Chuckled too, I still have 2001 Road King since Oct. 2000. It has factory security, although the fob isn't needed to start unless the security is set and it has the button. Hit the button on that, all good, same battery for the last 19 years.
Quote from: Coff 06 on March 19, 2020, 10:41:08 AM
On my 06 the code is the last 4 digits of the vin # from the factory.You might start there,I don't think most people bother changing it. Coff 06
Your dealer did that code. The factory default is 31313
Changing the PIN
1 Select a 5digit (1 thru 9) PIN and record on the wallet card from Owner's Manual.
2 With an assigned fob present, turn ignition key ON - OFF - ON - OFF - ON
3 Press left turn signal switch 3 times.
4 Press right turn signal switch 1 time and release. Turn signals will flash 3 times. Current PIN will appear in odometer. The first digit will be flashing.
5 Enter first digit (a) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch a times.
6 Press right turn signal switch 1 time and release. The new digit (a) will replace the current in odometer window.
7 Enter second digit (b) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch b times.
8 Press right turn signal switch 1 time and release. The new digit (b) will replace the current in odometer window.
9 Enter third digit (c) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch c times.
10 Press right turn switch 1 time and release. The new digit (c) will replace the current in odometer window.
11 Enter fourth digit (d) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch d times.
12 Press right turn switch 1 time and release. The new digit (d) will replace the current in odometer window.
13 Enter fifth digit (e) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch e times.
14 Press right turn switch 1 time and release. The new digit (e) will replace the current in odometer window.
15 Before the module rearms, turn the ignition key to OFF. The odometer will return to mileage.
Turning the ignition key to OFF stores the new PIN in the module
Quote from: jmorton10 on March 19, 2020, 10:51:46 AM
Hardly anybody ever changes the code.
I forget what the default code is now (might be 0000)
~John
All 1's was my default. Code has to be 1-9. No zeros as the turn signal button has to be pressed at least once to enter the digit.
Quote from: Coyote on March 19, 2020, 10:36:29 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on March 19, 2020, 10:24:21 AM
But, do you need the code to change the code? I have to read up on it, but I thought as long as you have the fob, turn the ignition on, and just go through the process to change the code.
No, you just need the bike disarmed by having the FOB near.
That's what I was trying to say, clumsily.
It's my understanding that there is no "factory" setting for the PIN#, the bikes come in with system non operational, our techs "turn it on" and set the PIN#, our other store does not "arm" the system during set-up for the bikes on the floor, if the customer want the system enables they then set it up. Personally I had mine zero'd out,, AKA, turned off ..
Quote from: Coyote on March 19, 2020, 10:58:30 AM
Quote from: Coff 06 on March 19, 2020, 10:41:08 AM
On my 06 the code is the last 4 digits of the vin # from the factory.You might start there,I don't think most people bother changing it. Coff 06
Your dealer did that code. The factory default is 31313
Changing the PIN
1 Select a 5digit (1 thru 9) PIN and record on the wallet card from Owner's Manual.
2 With an assigned fob present, turn ignition key ON - OFF - ON - OFF - ON
3 Press left turn signal switch 3 times.
4 Press right turn signal switch 1 time and release. Turn signals will flash 3 times. Current PIN will appear in odometer. The first digit will be flashing.
5 Enter first digit (a) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch a times.
6 Press right turn signal switch 1 time and release. The new digit (a) will replace the current in odometer window.
7 Enter second digit (b) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch b times.
8 Press right turn signal switch 1 time and release. The new digit (b) will replace the current in odometer window.
9 Enter third digit (c) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch c times.
10 Press right turn switch 1 time and release. The new digit (c) will replace the current in odometer window.
11 Enter fourth digit (d) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch d times.
12 Press right turn switch 1 time and release. The new digit (d) will replace the current in odometer window.
13 Enter fifth digit (e) of new PIN by pressing left turn signal switch e times.
14 Press right turn switch 1 time and release. The new digit (e) will replace the current in odometer window.
15 Before the module rearms, turn the ignition key to OFF. The odometer will return to mileage.
Turning the ignition key to OFF stores the new PIN in the module
Good info! :up: Thanks Coyote!
Quote from: tomcat64 on March 19, 2020, 03:15:32 PM
It's my understanding that there is no "factory" setting for the PIN#, the bikes come in with system non operational, our techs "turn it on" and set the PIN#, our other store does not "arm" the system during set-up for the bikes on the floor, if the customer want the system enables they then set it up. Personally I had mine zero'd out,, AKA, turned off ..
Does that mean you have no code to use if your fob craps out, or you forget it at home, like I heard about someone doing last night?
Setting the PIN to all zeros disables security completely.
Mine's a 16......I changed the code(5 digits, I believe) to something I would remember...however I wouldn't be surprised if the default code worked also.....the alarm doesn't sound unless you try to move the bike...ie lift it up off the sidestand...the one time I let the battery on the main fob die I was away from the homestead....by 1500 miles....I could have played with it and figured it out...or looked on my phone, or the owner's manual, for the procedure....just grabbed the other fob...flipped the battery over and was on my way....to buy some batteries...if I practiced the unlock procedure on a monthly basis I might remember it....too many steps for this ole fart.... :wink:
I always keep the key and fob in the ignition switch so I never forget it.
The bike has been stolen 4 times and I always got it back. :SM:
I just leave the fob in the trunk and put it in my pocket when I get to where i,m going.
I know a guy with a 2012 Limited. 3-4 years back we were talking about the security system and he looked at me and asked, "Does mine have security?" I told him I am sure it does, but he should have noticed the key FOBS. He went on to tell me they were still in the trunk with the owner's manual, never took them out. He travels all over, never locks up his Harley and leaves the keys and FOB in the trunk. The next guy locks up everything, carries 100 pounds of log chain and locks, then secures his ride if he walks into a gas station, and when he comes out, it is gone! :hyst:
Quote from: Hossamania on March 19, 2020, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: tomcat64 on March 19, 2020, 03:15:32 PM
It's my understanding that there is no "factory" setting for the PIN#, the bikes come in with system non operational, our techs "turn it on" and set the PIN#, our other store does not "arm" the system during set-up for the bikes on the floor, if the customer want the system enables they then set it up. Personally I had mine zero'd out,, AKA, turned off ..
Does that mean you have no code to use if your fob craps out, or you forget it at home, like I heard about someone doing last night?
:emoGroan: :hyst: :hyst: :slap:
Quote from: Coyote on March 19, 2020, 04:48:25 PM
Setting the PIN to all zeros disables security completely.
BINGO!!
Quote from: Coyote on March 19, 2020, 04:48:25 PM
Setting the PIN to all zeros disables security completely.
Digital Technician needed? Or is procedure in owners manual?
Quote from: cheech on March 20, 2020, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: Coyote on March 19, 2020, 04:48:25 PM
Setting the PIN to all zeros disables security completely.
Digital Technician needed? Or is procedure in owners manual?
I use my Centurion to do it. DigTech also. You can't do it with the turn signals.
Quote from: Coyote on March 20, 2020, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: cheech on March 20, 2020, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: Coyote on March 19, 2020, 04:48:25 PM
Setting the PIN to all zeros disables security completely.
Digital Technician needed? Or is procedure in owners manual?
I use my Centurion to do it. DigTech also. You can't do it with the turn signals.
If you set pins to all zeros will that disable the security permanently? Can you explain how to do it with both the Centurion as well as the DigTech? And please specify what years this works on.
Quote from: PoorUB on March 19, 2020, 06:42:31 PM
I know a guy with a 2012 Limited. 3-4 years back we were talking about the security system and he looked at me and asked, "Does mine have security?" I told him I am sure it does, but he should have noticed the key FOBS. He went on to tell me they were still in the trunk with the owner's manual, never took them out. He travels all over, never locks up his Harley and leaves the keys and FOB in the trunk. The next guy locks up everything, carries 100 pounds of log chain and locks, then secures his ride if he walks into a gas station, and when he comes out, it is gone! :hyst:
I have thought I buy a couple of those locater chips and install them on both money pits and perhaps one more for my v nose trailer . Not sure how well they work but may be they could help find the bike or set off a alarm if they move
I have Lo/Jack on my RG. It appears they don't sell it for motorcycles any more. :nix: There must be others. One thing to remember is like a security system, it is hunting for towers and the fob all the time. It / they can drain a system over time if you don't have a tender on it. If you are using a L-ion battery without discharge protection like AntiGravity provides, you can deplete the battery to the point of no return. My AntiGravity ATX-30-HD w/ 970 CCA has a low discharge management system that shuts it down before it reaches that critical point.
all of this is unnecessary. give me a metal key.
Quote from: greenshovel0014 on April 08, 2020, 02:34:32 PM
all of this is unnecessary. give me a metal key.
I will take a FOB and security over screwing with a key anytime. I like that i can leave the FOB in my pocket and start the motorcycle, or my F150 too. Also walk away and nobody can start it. I wish HD made their FOB work like most manufacturers. No key switch to turn to turn on the bike, just push a button. Or maybe they have by now? :idunno:
With my BMW I never take the FOB out, no keys to lock the trunk or bags either. Have the FOB handy, and push the button on the motorcycle.
We have gotten so soft!
Quote from: greenshovel0014 on April 08, 2020, 02:34:32 PM
all of this is unnecessary. give me a metal key.
I agree, my RK has the factory security & I hate it.
I just leave the FOB in my saddlebag...........
I need to scare up a centurian & cancel out the thing.
~John
So, here's a big question for you: if there's no button is it really a FOB?
:idunno:
Quote from: FloridaJim5 on April 09, 2020, 07:22:59 PM
So, here's a big question for you: if there's no button is it really a FOB?
:idunno:
Sure, why not? After all the word FOB comes from watch fob, a chain attached to a watch for carrying in a waistcoat or waistband pocket. or a small ornament attached to a watch chain. So what does a button have to do with it?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fob :wink:
Quote from: PoorUB on April 10, 2020, 05:25:53 AM
Quote from: FloridaJim5 on April 09, 2020, 07:22:59 PM
So, here's a big question for you: if there's no button is it really a FOB?
:idunno:
Sure, why not? After all the word FOB comes from watch fob, a chain attached to a watch for carrying in a waistcoat or waistband pocket. or a small ornament attached to a watch chain. So what does a button have to do with it?
FOB also is an acronym for "Finger Operated Button".
https://www.acronymfinder.com/Finger_Operated-Button-(locked-entry)-(FOB).html
First time I have seen that reference.
Sometimes it's Fat Old Bastard....
Quote from: Hossamania on April 10, 2020, 08:28:52 AM
Sometimes it's Fat Old Bastard....
Forgetful Old Bastard.....Bob
:hyst: That's FOBB