Guy's, I need some help with compensator. I have stock 10 Road Glide with a noisy compensator. What about compensator eliminator kits. 2010 bad compensators. The bike is 96cui no more than stage 1.
HD's fix is no drama for most of us. Seen here (https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/Screamin-Eagle-Big-Twin-Compensator/p/40100061).
You are going to get as many opinions as oil brands
I put a solid sprocket in my 09 ultra 20,000 miles ago with no issues and like it for me there is no downside
Dave
Quote from: rigidthumper on January 06, 2021, 08:50:16 AM
HD's fix is no drama for most of us. Seen here (https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/Screamin-Eagle-Big-Twin-Compensator/p/40100061).
..... and
here (http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=82010.msg917659#msg917659)
Your 10' will need a new stator rotor to run the latest SE compensator.
Or this,
https://darkhorsecrankworks.com/shop/ols/products/man-o-war-motorsprocket
And this,
https://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,109574.0.html
The SE compensator will run for many miles. Pay attention to the stack height with the springs on install.
Opinions on solid sprockets are good and bad. For everyone that tried solid and liked it there in a gug that tried it and went back to a compensator.
I would put in an SE and not worry about it. I had a 2010 that ate up three OEM compensators before the SE was the answer.
Guys, I am not interested in the Screamin Eagle. I want a compensator eliminator. And does the rotor need to be changed. 2010 Road Glide 96cui. Thanks
Quote from: cpiccarr on January 06, 2021, 02:57:45 PM
Guys, I am not interested in the Screamin Eagle. I want a compensator eliminator. And does the rotor need to be changed. 2010 Road Glide 96cui. Thanks
Yes, you need a 30041-08A rotor.
On a stage 1 96" you might like the Vulcan 32t eliminator. Darkhorse has a 32t as well. Both companies also make the stock 34t. Don't know if you need a rotor replacement with the Vulcan unit, but you will Need to replace the rotor with the Darkhorse unit.
Vulcan units seem to be the go to unit.
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Quote from: cpiccarr on January 06, 2021, 02:57:45 PM
Guys, I am not interested in the Screamin Eagle. I want a compensator eliminator. And does the rotor need to be changed. 2010 Road Glide 96cui. Thanks
I did not have to to change my rotor
Dave
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Dave
I stand corrected, I see that Vulcan machined them to sit inside the rotors cupped area for the compensator.
(https://secure.vulcanworks.net/store/images/D/4513_1.jpg)
Looks great. I think 34t is stock? I would like to run stock. Who makes yours Vulcan? I was looking at Twin Power also.
Mine is a twin power 32 tooth that is why you see the shoe adapter in the Picture
Dave
What difference going from 34t to 32t? Anything else needed to install other than gaskets. I think Twin Power looks good. Thanks for your help.
Quote from: cpiccarr on January 06, 2021, 06:26:22 PM
What difference going from 34t to 32t? Anything else needed to install other than gaskets. I think Twin Power looks good. Thanks for your help.
32t will bring the power on sooner and make 6th gear more useable on a stock bike. Equate it to about a 6% increase in torque. With a 32t you will need to address the tensioner as well. Twin power and Vulcan are one in the same now iirc. Vulcan makes the sprocket and they also make a manual tensioner for the 32t compensator.
I am currently running a 30T Vulcan solid sprocket with my 124" RK. Vulcan stuff is very high quality & their CS is very good also.
I would never go back to a compensator at this point.
~John
Thanks again. I am going to look into 32t and primary chain tensioner. Not sure if anything on clutch and new chain is needed with this.
Quote from: cpiccarr on January 07, 2021, 07:09:53 AM
Thanks again. I am going to look into 32t and primary chain tensioner. Not sure if anything on clutch and new chain is needed with this.
With the tensioner from Vulcan you can use the stock chain. Twin power also makes a "cap" that attaches to the stock auto tensioner that is only about $40. With a stock bike that's all you'll need.
See photo in reply #13 for the cap on the tensioner. It's the little black piece 👍.
I found it also matters how you ride whether you'll like the solid.
If your preferred RPM range when riding is on the low side, almost approaching lugging, you won't like the jerkiness of the feel with solid sprocket.
Belt drive eliminates all need for a compensator (if it was ever needed)
It also gets rid of over 30 lbs of moving parts.
I replaced the SE compensator on my 2011 Road King with a Dark Horse MOW 32T comp (107ci, S&S crank/Timken conv). I used the snap on shoe to take up the additional chain slack and changed the gearing ratios with PV.
0.20305
0.29298
0.39404
0.48583
0.57390
0.67684
Prior to the change in ratios the 6th gear light or CC didn't work. After the change all is well. I'm really pleased with the gearing change, I should have done it sooner.
Quote from: jmorton10 on January 07, 2021, 03:33:39 AM
I am currently running a 30T Vulcan solid sprocket with my 124" RK. Vulcan stuff is very high quality & their CS is very good also.
I would never go back to a compensator at this point.
~John
Ditto... but I went with the 32 tooth version with my 124".....
The shoe changes the angle of the primary chain, which caused some initial noise that it never had before... Now that the shoe is worn in, and the chain properly adjusted, I don't notice any real difference in the primary chain noise...
I don't care for the steep angle on the chain. I would rather change the gearing on the final drive.
I'm going with the solid sprocket also but keeping the same tooth count.
You can use a 49 EVO Industries 49 tooth clutch basket sprocket and chain for a nice change too.
Quote from: kd on January 09, 2021, 08:36:12 PM
You can use a 49 EVO Industries 49 tooth clutch basket sprocket and chain for a nice change too.
I did that about 50,000 miles ago on my 09 Heritage,,well worth the $550 CAD.
A 32 engine sprocket with a 49 tooth basket may be OK with the OEM chain and tensioner and not need the booster seat (snap on shoe) to take up any slack. You will get a lower ratio out of it also. The chain will likely look as though it is stock. To be clear, I don't know anyone that has done it that way but I believe it should work.
FWIW, the 49 tooth basket and 31 tooth transmission pulley give a 3.16 final ratio which is about perfect in the 09 up touring. It affects the cruise and 6th gear shift light when you change the trans pulley though. Doing it all in the primary keeps the light and cruise normal. Most that do this stuff are using a good tuner that has the ability to correct the issue so if that's the case you can do it how you please. Lots of options. Most do this mod to pick up power and responce. The 32 / 49 combination will give an o9 up touring about a 3.25 ratio which is decent and very useable.