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Title: all Balls Starter
Post by: hd76fxlr on October 18, 2023, 11:43:24 AM
I have an All Balls Starter in mt 1976 FXE . 97 in. 3 13/16 bore . My starter is only good for about 2 tries and then too low battery . I do have compression releases` and Dyna single fire ignition .
 Has anyone tried points for better starting ?
 If you use bike every day its better ; but this is my week end warrior bike .
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: hd76fxlr on October 18, 2023, 12:22:35 PM
Spyke or All Balls ?
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: Hossamania on October 18, 2023, 12:29:40 PM
How old is the battery? What is the voltage before starting? What is voltage while running?
Have you tried jump starting to see if that helps?
There is a way to check for amps while starting which I do not know, or take it in and get it tested.
What makes you think the starter is the problem?
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: Hossamania on October 18, 2023, 12:32:52 PM
How long are you cranking the starter with no start?
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: motorhogman on October 18, 2023, 01:02:12 PM
Sounds like a battery or charging system issue more than a bad starter. More testing needed as Hoss asked about.
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: JSD on October 18, 2023, 03:20:59 PM
I read some where that All balls starters are Bosch ? Any thoughts
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: FSG on October 18, 2023, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: JSD on October 18, 2023, 03:20:59 PMI read some where that All balls starters are Bosch ? Any thoughts

some maybe but a lot of ABR Starters have the Country of Origin listed as Taiwan
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: Dan89flstc on October 19, 2023, 06:51:50 AM
If the battery gets weak after two tries, it is probably shot.

Charge it fully and have it load tested.
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: Hossamania on October 19, 2023, 07:50:33 AM
Quote from: Dan89flstc on October 19, 2023, 06:51:50 AMIf the battery gets weak after two tries, it is probably shot.

Charge it fully and have it load tested.

Unless the two tries are 30 seconds each.
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: Reddog74usa on October 19, 2023, 08:31:15 AM
If the battery checks out you may want to consider replacing all the cables with 4 gauge welding cable. I found it along with some good quality ends and make my own. Really made a big difference on my 89 incher...
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: Karl H. on October 20, 2023, 12:32:28 AM
Quote from: JSD on October 18, 2023, 03:20:59 PMI read some where that All balls starters are Bosch ? Any thoughts
Definitely not!
Title: Re: all Balls Starter
Post by: 76shuvlinoff on October 22, 2023, 03:30:28 AM
I have an ALL Balls starter on my 93"er.  My choice of cams has me at 185 psi cylinder pressure hot. Before that I was at 210-215. No comp releases.  I keep telling myself I am going to sacrifice my dual plugs and install some but never get to it.  I have a Scorpion AGM FLH battery and keep her on a tender.

 Years ago I installed high torque field coils in my Prestolite and didn't see a huge improvement going from that to the All Balls.