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Title: Valve Seals, Guide Tops .603" S&S
Post by: Don D on July 10, 2020, 05:29:29 PM
S&S swears they are all .625, not true. OK this is not the first time I have run into this, guide tops are undersize and the Klines will not stay put. The ID of a new Kline or Kibblewhite equivalent are about the same right there at .605. What is the fix for this? I am not going to replace the guides just for that, the parts are in good condition. Thought about cutting the tops for the early style. I can, just wondering if anyone else has seen these and how they dealt with it.
Title: Re: Valve Seals, Guide Tops .603" S&S
Post by: xlfan on July 11, 2020, 12:02:06 AM
I did see it some years ago, got the same swear treatment from S&S, and cut them down to .560's.
Title: Re: Valve Seals, Guide Tops .603" S&S
Post by: ghostrider on July 11, 2020, 04:03:11 AM
I have S&S heads with those guides too,  i think there seals work,   https://www.alexsparts.com/viton-valve-seals-3-8-x-597-605-universal-for-harley-shovelhead-sold-in-pairs/
Title: Re: Valve Seals, Guide Tops .603" S&S
Post by: Hillside Motorcycle on July 11, 2020, 04:07:36 AM
We have simply used automotive seals, when we first witnessed this years ago........
Title: Re: Valve Seals, Guide Tops .603" S&S
Post by: Dogbone45ACP on July 11, 2020, 04:09:34 AM
Don, you put Viton seals from a GM 8.1 on my S&S heads.
Title: Re: Valve Seals, Guide Tops .603" S&S
Post by: ghostrider on July 11, 2020, 05:13:43 AM
Enginetech  S810V   seals should work as well.   But the viton ones are kinda tall if you a bigger cam.
Title: Re: Valve Seals, Guide Tops .603" S&S
Post by: Don D on July 11, 2020, 05:57:50 AM
Quote from: Dogbone45ACP on July 11, 2020, 04:09:34 AM
Don, you put Viton seals from a GM 8.1 on my S&S heads.

Most of the automotive seals like those for the GM are very tall and limit the lift a lot. After giving this some thought I am going to cut them to .562