I have shared a few pics in the past but don't think I started a thread for this project.
Like most of my projects, this began with a deal that was just too good to pass up. Skeeter Todd had a titled factory frame for sale and I figured I had enough spare parts to build another bike. Plan was to build it using as many scraps I had around the house, buy what was needed and then sell the bike. Well that didn't happen.
Its getting closer to burning gas. Engine is a TC124 built for torque (my first ever), coupled with a trans case from a '99-'00 bagger. Used an oil pan from Joe Biesel at Deviant Fabrications. Everything else is pretty much oem or off the shelf stuff. Plan is to have this bike off the dyno in time for a local open house and then Myrtle Beach Bike Week (Not sure why I am going, MBBW is gay) followed by the FXR Jam.
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I luv watching your builds. When I win the lottery I want you to build me an FXR
Great project... Joes pans are VERY nice.... Does this bike get one of his swing arms?
Quote from: nosjunkie on January 02, 2019, 10:42:06 AM
Great project... Joes pans are VERY nice.... Does this bike get one of his swing arms?
It might. The first arm is going on the red/white bike, followed by a set of BST carbon fiber wheels.
Very nice, not a lot of room to get that motor in, eh
Wasn't the oil pan you use in these bikes one of your designs if I remember correctly?
Nice stable, better start buying rear tires in bulk.
Mike
Quote from: mrmike on January 02, 2019, 12:23:46 PM
Very nice, not a lot of room to get that motor in, eh
Wasn't the oil pan you use in these bikes one of your designs if I remember correctly?
Nice stable, better start buying rear tires in bulk.
Mike
I made a small batch of modified oem pans, one of which I sent to Deviant to use as the basis for him to design one made from injection molded lithium polymer. Similar to those used on Caterpilar engines. Heat retention was a concern so the design was shifted to billet aluminum and expanded slightly. The design of the billet pan by Deviant is entirely theirs. I helped out by providing form, fit and function testing. The couple of changes that I suggested were incorporated into the finished product. Very pleased with how they came out.
As for the room in the frame, I was a bit concerned as my 124 design used a piston with a taller deck height that resulted in a slightly linger cylinder than what is supplied by S&S. Not a lot of room in the FXR frame, but I wanted the piston stability and the ring seal that came with it so I rolled the dice. It fit, with plenty of room to spare. Before building the engine, I acquired some mock up cylinders of the same length, heads with the same cut, etc and mocked it up in the frame for the purpose of seeing if the rocker boxes could be removed in the frame. Easy. Didn't even have to drop the front motor mount. For anyone on the fence about putting a big block in an FXR, don't be afraid, lots of room and very little fabrication required.
I'll take it!
Quote from: HighLiner on January 02, 2019, 01:30:12 PM
I'll take it!
Huh? I don't understand. What will you take?
It's always exciting seeing a build post from Turboprop. Bike(s) looks fantastic.
Zach
Did you have much work done to the FXDX forks ?
Are the Galfer rotors substantially lighter than the HD factory parts ?
cheers
Nice project, should be a lot of fun to ride that bike. Is this 124 getting the RS657's?
Quote from: speedzter on January 02, 2019, 04:40:50 PM
Did you have much work done to the FXDX forks ?
Are the Galfer rotors substantially lighter than the HD factory parts ?
cheers
The forks were sent to Kent at GMD Atlanta. Tubes were polished, different springs and RaceTech Gold Valves. I have not weighed either the Galfers or the oem rotors so I can't really speak to the weight difference.
Looks great so far! Is that the HPI breather?
Quote from: Ohio HD on January 02, 2019, 05:28:19 PM
Nice project, should be a lot of fun to ride that bike. Is this 124 getting the RS657's?
Yes. This engine is set up with RedShift 657 gear drive cams, Zippers Stage 4 heads w/2" intake valves and all the special coatings (chambers, ports, valves, springs). Also has Baisley rockers on forged supports, Smith Bros thick wall tapered pushrods, theist lifters that WFO Larry sells, S&S forged plate and 3-Stage pump, Hoban Bros crank w/Carrlillo rods, Axtell cylinders w/ductile liners, custom JE pistons from Axtell w/various treatments and lightweight wrist pins), D intake, bored Mik48 with a Vulcan back (manifold, Vulcan back and Mik have all been port matched and other stuff), DTT ignition. Compression worked out to 10.7. Not giving everything away, but in addition to the various internal treatments by PolyDyn, some components were sent to MicroBlue and others were sent out for DLC. The irony of al this is this was all built on a set of $250 cases from eBay.
Quote from: scott7d on January 02, 2019, 06:13:23 PM
Looks great so far! Is that the HPI breather?
Yes, it is. But, like everything else, there are some mods to it to make it work. I had HPI sent the long standoffs that are setup for external breathing as their standard standoffs route the head vents to the inside of the air filter. I also had to make spacers to go between eh back plate and the vented offsets as the intake setup on this is unlike their typical install. The combination of a D intake, insulator block, Vulcan Race Back and Mik48 created a good size gap between the plate and the standoffs. I think the stainless spacers are .410 long.
Quote from: turboprop on January 02, 2019, 06:19:06 PM
Quote from: Ohio HD on January 02, 2019, 05:28:19 PM
Nice project, should be a lot of fun to ride that bike. Is this 124 getting the RS657's?
Yes. This engine is set up with RedShift 657 gear drive cams, Zippers Stage 4 heads w/2" intake valves and all the special coatings (chambers, ports, valves, springs). Also has Baisley rockers on forged supports, Smith Bros thick wall tapered pushrods, theist lifters that WFO Larry sells, S&S forged plate and 3-Stage pump, Hoban Bros crank w/Carrlillo rods, Axtell cylinders w/ductile liners, custom JE pistons from Axtell w/various treatments and lightweight wrist pins), D intake, bored Mik48 with a Vulcan back (manifold, Vulcan back and Mik have all been port matched and other stuff), DTT ignition. Compression worked out to 10.7. Not giving everything away, but in addition to the various internal treatments by PolyDyn, some components were sent to MicroBlue and others were sent out for DLC. The irony of al this is this was all built on a set of $250 cases from eBay.
That's one heck of a recipe and ingredients. I really look forward to seeing how the power distribution looks when your done. I bet very broad. I'm sure those $250 cases will be fine, you just increased their value considerable.
I am at a point where I really must make a decision on the exhaust system. Have thought of flying in Brian Truesdale for a weekend to build me a Guppy. Also thinking real hard about a Black Hole Prostock from RB Racing. Unlike my other FXR brutes, this FXR will be setup for very high speed touring and I dont give a "Potty mouth" about making noise or poster sounds. Would be happy if the engine was silent. I have a call with Rob at RB scheduled for this Friday to discuss various courses of actions.
Quote from: turboprop on January 02, 2019, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: scott7d on January 02, 2019, 06:13:23 PM
Looks great so far! Is that the HPI breather?
Yes, it is. But, like everything else, there are some mods to it to make it work. I had HPI sent the long standoffs that are setup for external breathing as their standard standoffs route the head vents to the inside of the air filter.
Did you have to use an adapter from the backing plate to the mikuni ?
I recently fitted a Zippers back plate with the adapter built in , to my 120" custom/48mm Mik' combo.
I think it will flow nicely without the extra step when using the adapter.
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Quote from: speedzter on January 02, 2019, 09:22:39 PM
Quote from: turboprop on January 02, 2019, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: scott7d on January 02, 2019, 06:13:23 PM
Looks great so far! Is that the HPI breather?
Yes, it is. But, like everything else, there are some mods to it to make it work. I had HPI sent the long standoffs that are setup for external breathing as their standard standoffs route the head vents to the inside of the air filter.
Did you have to use an adapter from the backing plate to the mikuni ?
I recently fitted a Zippers back plate with the adapter built in , to my 120" custom/48mm Mik' combo.
I think it will flow nicely without the extra step when using the adapter.
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Not sure I understand what you are saying about the Zippers back plate for the Mikuni carb. Not sure how and adapter would go in there as it simply presses onto the Mikuni.
The air cleaner from HPI is specific for a Mikuni HSR carb, but unlike the back plates from Zippers and everyone else that is simply slipped onto the Mikuni and sealed with an o-ring. The HPI unit has a integrated velocity stack that goes into the throat of the Mik. Sort of eliminates the multiple steps that the Zippers (and others) plate creates.
Quote from: turboprop on January 02, 2019, 06:46:28 PM
I am at a point where I really must make a decision on the exhaust system. Have thought of flying in Brian Truesdale for a weekend to build me a Guppy. Also thinking real hard about a Black Hole Prostock from RB Racing. Unlike my other FXR brutes, this FXR will be setup for very high speed touring and I dont give a "Potty mouth" about making noise or poster sounds. Would be happy if the engine was silent. I have a call with Rob at RB scheduled for this Friday to discuss various courses of actions.
It would be worth the plane ticket. :up:
your attention to detail is second to none Ed! :up:
Very nice project.
Quote from: wfolarry on January 03, 2019, 10:09:31 AM
Quote from: turboprop on January 02, 2019, 06:46:28 PM
I am at a point where I really must make a decision on the exhaust system. Have thought of flying in Brian Truesdale for a weekend to build me a Guppy. Also thinking real hard about a Black Hole Prostock from RB Racing. Unlike my other FXR brutes, this FXR will be setup for very high speed touring and I dont give a "Potty mouth" about making noise or poster sounds. Would be happy if the engine was silent. I have a call with Rob at RB scheduled for this Friday to discuss various courses of actions.
It would be worth the plane ticket. :up:
My cost analysis to do this shows this to be 197% more stupid than anything I have ever done. In addition to the plane ticket, there is his fee, per diem, raw materials from Burns, will have to source some exotic TIG machine and procure space in a facility with the power to run it. Plus, Brian is from way up north and can probably knock down a huge pile of beer without even thinking about it. Cha ching, cha ching cha ching.
Will probably end up doing an off the shelf Black Hole Pro Stock from RB.
What kind of pipe is on the Red bike? Beautiful, likely functional too I bet.
Quote from: ndmp40 on January 03, 2019, 11:30:49 AM
What kind of pipe is on the Red bike? Beautiful, likely functional too I bet.
The power output decreased some when I replaced the Guppy with this;
http://www.bassanipipes.com/greglutzka2into1stainlessdynasystem-1-1.aspx (http://www.bassanipipes.com/greglutzka2into1stainlessdynasystem-1-1.aspx)
I'd ask him first about making you a pipe before I bought one.
I'm not friends with him but he doesn't live too far away from me [or maybe not now I don't really know]. Some years back when a friend of mine was campaigning a 124 at the track Brian made a pipe for him.[they're friends] Before the pipe 9.9 was his best but usually low 10's. With the Guppy pipe 9.79. Consistent 9 second bike. This was a street bike too not a race bike. The pipe is impressive. Think about it. Can't hurt to ask.
Quote from: wfolarry on January 03, 2019, 12:29:47 PM
I'd ask him first about making you a pipe before I bought one.
I'm not friends with him but he doesn't live too far away from me [or maybe not now I don't really know]. Some years back when a friend of mine was campaigning a 124 at the track Brian made a pipe for him.[they're friends] Before the pipe 9.9 was his best but usually low 10's. With the Guppy pipe 9.79. Consistent 9 second bike. This was a street bike too not a race bike. The pipe is impressive. Think about it. Can't hurt to ask.
We have talked about it. He is certainly willing but really needs the bike in front of him. Also discussed shipping the bike to him or having him do the NRE and then ship me his proprietary components for a local shop to do the fab work with.
The Guppy I pulled off the red bike is currently undergoing some maintenance. Had an event. The reverse cone portion is being replaced, mounting assembly is getting beefed up and then it is being sent out to have the existing Jet Hot sanded off and and re-coated by a shop in Detroit. He may even hook me up with one of the 3rd generation baffles.
You must have a better connection as I've called and emailed his new shop with no response.
Quote from: turboprop on January 03, 2019, 05:37:50 AM
The air cleaner from HPI is specific for a Mikuni HSR carb, The HPI unit has a integrated velocity stack that goes into the throat of the Mik. Sort of eliminates the multiple steps that the Zippers (and others) plate creates.
Ok, I didn't realize HPI made a back plate to suit the Mikuni.
Sounds like a nice solution. Would love to see a shot of the velocity stack fitted.
I'm wondering how you sorted out the air feed orifice for the idle circuit ?
Probably 3 of the finest FXR's in the country Ed. Any reason why you went with conventional forks instead of inverted, like the other 2?
Quote from: Deye76 on January 03, 2019, 04:37:10 PM
Probably 3 of the finest FXR's in the country Ed. Any reason why you went with conventional forks instead of inverted, like the other 2?
Thanks for the kind words. IMO, your Screamin Eagle CVO FXR is at the top of my list of best FXRs in the country.
I have the stuff to build another inverted fork, but wanted to do something different with this bike. Ironically, as this bike is very different for me, there are thousands of them just like this in California. Admittedly, very few of them have an engine or drive train built like like this. Plus, a friend gave me the DX fork and wheel. This bike started out as a way to clean up a bunch of spare parts in my garage.
Finished up the right side perch for the brake pedal and foot beg mount.
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Killer machine, do you guys take anything off the rib on the backside peg mount. Kiwi leather dye did wonders to my convertible bags, works on the canvas too.
Quote from: ecir50 on January 03, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Killer machine, do you guys take anything off the rib on the backside peg mount. Kiwi leather dye did wonders to my convertible bags, works on the canvas too.
A bunch of material is removed from the rib on the back side. No real way around it. The bags shown are just for mock up. I have a set of NOS convertible bags that I may use. Still on the fence about a set of carbon fiber RP bags.
Details, :up: that double row bearing, trap door. I learn a lot following your builds.
Some great looking(and performing) FXR's turbo, nice job! :up:
Quote from: turboprop on January 03, 2019, 11:33:41 AM
Quote from: ndmp40 on January 03, 2019, 11:30:49 AM
What kind of pipe is on the Red bike? Beautiful, likely functional too I bet.
The power output decreased some when I replaced the Guppy with this;
http://www.bassanipipes.com/greglutzka2into1stainlessdynasystem-1-1.aspx (http://www.bassanipipes.com/greglutzka2into1stainlessdynasystem-1-1.aspx)
Where they similar in design? Size of piping? What do you feel caused the power loss?
Im in the same boat as far as Exhaust...Venting a 124" hotrod has its challenges.. Id love a Guppy.. But might be easier to find a Unicorn..
Quote from: nosjunkie on January 04, 2019, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: turboprop on January 03, 2019, 11:33:41 AM
Quote from: ndmp40 on January 03, 2019, 11:30:49 AM
What kind of pipe is on the Red bike? Beautiful, likely functional too I bet.
The power output decreased some when I replaced the Guppy with this;
http://www.bassanipipes.com/greglutzka2into1stainlessdynasystem-1-1.aspx (http://www.bassanipipes.com/greglutzka2into1stainlessdynasystem-1-1.aspx)
Where they similar in design? Size of piping? What do you feel caused the power loss?
Im in the same boat as far as Exhaust...Venting a 124" hotrod has its challenges.. Id love a Guppy.. But might be easier to find a Unicorn..
With the naked eye the two pipes are different. I am far from smart on the science involved in making an exhaust pipe work, but am told by some smart people that the two pipes have huge differences in how they function.
The 124 in the red/white bike has a vent system that is very different. The S&S heads did not come setup for traditional vents out the air filter mounting bolts. Instead they came drilled and tapped in an area under the rocker boxes for nipple. From the factory, the rear head had a 5/16" barb and the front had a ⅛" barb. The large hose was supposed to be routed to the air cleaner and the smaller hose was supposed to be connected to a barb on the manifold. I changed it up some. Both holes were setup for 5/16" barbs and hoses run directly from each of them to a vented catch can. The vent line between the oil tank and engine case has a T in it that is run to one of the lines going to the catch can. This seems to work very well. After a couple hours on the highway the exterior of the engine is spotless and no issues with sumping or anything else. Maybe I did something wrong?
Quote from: turboprop on January 04, 2019, 09:35:47 AM
Quote from: nosjunkie on January 04, 2019, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: turboprop on January 03, 2019, 11:33:41 AM
Quote from: ndmp40 on January 03, 2019, 11:30:49 AM
What kind of pipe is on the Red bike? Beautiful, likely functional too I bet.
The power output decreased some when I replaced the Guppy with this;
http://www.bassanipipes.com/greglutzka2into1stainlessdynasystem-1-1.aspx (http://www.bassanipipes.com/greglutzka2into1stainlessdynasystem-1-1.aspx)
Where they similar in design? Size of piping? What do you feel caused the power loss?
Im in the same boat as far as Exhaust...Venting a 124" hotrod has its challenges.. Id love a Guppy.. But might be easier to find a Unicorn..
With the naked eye the two pipes are different. I am far from smart on the science involved in making an exhaust pipe work, but am told by some smart people that the two pipes have huge differences in how they function.
The 124 in the red/white bike has a vent system that is very different. The S&S heads did not come setup for traditional vents out the air filter mounting bolts. Instead they came drilled and tapped in an area under the rocker boxes for nipple. From the factory, the rear head had a 5/16" barb and the front had a ⅛" barb. The large hose was supposed to be routed to the air cleaner and the smaller hose was supposed to be connected to a barb on the manifold. I changed it up some. Both holes were setup for 5/16" barbs and hoses run directly from each of them to a vented catch can. The vent line between the oil tank and engine case has a T in it that is run to one of the lines going to the catch can. This seems to work very well. After a couple hours on the highway the exterior of the engine is spotless and no issues with sumping or anything else. Maybe I did something wrong?
Venting was in reference to exhaust..(poor choice of words on my part).. not crankcase venting/blowby..
Quote from: turboprop on January 03, 2019, 09:01:17 PM
Quote from: ecir50 on January 03, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Killer machine, do you guys take anything off the rib on the backside peg mount. Kiwi leather dye did wonders to my convertible bags, works on the canvas too.
A bunch of material is removed from the rib on the back side. No real way around it. The bags shown are just for mock up. I have a set of NOS convertible bags that I may use. Still on the fence about a set of carbon fiber RP bags.
Using the same pan but on a EVO. Mine is untouched has a good 1/8 clearance to the bolt, thinking taking some off just give it a little more clearance. Was just skeptical of taking material off the gusset even though the peg mount is a huge chunk of steel, not your first rodeo so if you guys haven't had any problems i'm comfortable now, thanks.
Quote from: Deye76 on January 18, 1970, 01:36:47 PMI learn a lot following your builds.
:up: Ed is the man with the FXR knowledge , I think there is a lot of us doing our FXR with some guiding from Ed
Any thought given to Fab28 ??
Quote from: GMR-PERFORMANCE on January 06, 2019, 07:39:09 AM
Any thought given to Fab28 ??
I have looked at their pipes and spoken with them. The pipes are gorgeous no doubt. Unfortunately, the technical details about them are very light and the fact that they intentionally hide or omit their physical location from their website throws a a flag.
I found their location a few months ago while looking for exhaust as well. They were or are working from a residence (not listing that address publicly). And also another address is 941 Garcia Ave, Pittsburg, CA 94565 which is a commercial location. Hopefully their business grew and they went to a commercial location.
The one thing that I notice is the way the muffler shakes. I remember NoCents breaking off his megaphone muffler from the same vibration. I would suggest a more solid mount to the muffler would deal with that issue. (if in fact there were one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnr1mHkg7wA
Quote from: Ohio HD on January 06, 2019, 08:09:33 AM
I found their location a few months ago while looking for exhaust as well. They were or are working from a residence (not listing that address publicly). And also another address is 941 Garcia Ave, Pittsburg, CA 94565 which is a commercial location. Hopefully their business grew and they went to a commercial location.
Yeah. That throws up a flag from but could live with that if they had the technicals. In talking with them it was apparent that they were expert welders but lacked the scientific knowledge required to make an effective exhaust or even basic A-B-C comparisons showing THIER different designs on the same large large engine with details specs of that engine. Instead I got screen shots of pictures of dyne sheets from various builds. Have to pass. Good looking stuff though.
:agree:
Quote from: biggzed on January 02, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
It's always exciting seeing a build post from Turboprop. Bike(s) looks fantastic.
Zach
Started on the new upper engine mounts. This is one of those pieces that the FXR community has not stepped up to manufacture. The oem FXR top engine mount has an Evo style coil mount, is thin, has holes/slots that are not precise and is really a POS. My new mounts are made from .250" thick stainless and has the correct interface for the TC style coil. I drew it and had the guys at work cut the outline using a plasma. The hole for the upper stabilizer link was drilled undersized and then reamed for a precise fit to the shoulder bolt that will be used. Same thing with the slots for the bolts that go into each head. Next step is to get them on a punch press to put the bends in them and then out for polishing.
Clockwise from upper left; stack of four new pieces, prototype unit with holes slots cut using plasma, the hack job piece I made a couple years ago, unmodified shovel/evo factory mount.
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Very nice, can't go wrong with stainless either.
Like others have said I enjoy following the progression of your projects, definetly way out of my league but I enjoy seeing the craftsmanship and attention to detail. Try to learn a thing or two too.
Mike
Quote from: turboprop on January 06, 2019, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: Ohio HD on January 06, 2019, 08:09:33 AM
I found their location a few months ago while looking for exhaust as well. They were or are working from a residence (not listing that address publicly). And also another address is 941 Garcia Ave, Pittsburg, CA 94565 which is a commercial location. Hopefully their business grew and they went to a commercial location.
Yeah. That throws up a flag from but could live with that if they had the technicals. In talking with them it was apparent that they were expert welders but lacked the scientific knowledge required to make an effective exhaust or even basic A-B-C comparisons showing THIER different designs on the same large large engine with details specs of that engine. Instead I got screen shots of pictures of dyne sheets from various builds. Have to pass. Good looking stuff though.
I agree with you. May be the best pipe out there, but without supporting data of theirs, or others that have used them, I'm skeptical too.
Quote from: Ohio HD on January 06, 2019, 05:52:22 PM
Quote from: turboprop on January 06, 2019, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: Ohio HD on January 06, 2019, 08:09:33 AM
I found their location a few months ago while looking for exhaust as well. They were or are working from a residence (not listing that address publicly). And also another address is 941 Garcia Ave, Pittsburg, CA 94565 which is a commercial location. Hopefully their business grew and they went to a commercial location.
Yeah. That throws up a flag from but could live with that if they had the technicals. In talking with them it was apparent that they were expert welders but lacked the scientific knowledge required to make an effective exhaust or even basic A-B-C comparisons showing THIER different designs on the same large large engine with details specs of that engine. Instead I got screen shots of pictures of dyne sheets from various builds. Have to pass. Good looking stuff though.
I agree with you. May be the best pipe out there, but without supporting data of theirs, or others that have used them, I'm skeptical too.
Some friends of mine went down a similar path with an exhaust company named Sawicki. Small shop, working out of his house, no real sense of business, etc. Bunch of my friends paid for and waited for pipes that never came. Every month it was a new round of excuses, friendships were destroyed, etc. I was never convinced his pipes were all that. I get a kick out of exhaust sellers that claim their pipes were designed for the widest power band, most horsepower, etc, etc. If that were the case some of those welders should be teaching physics at the Phd level because they have figured out how to defeat several laws of physics.
https://www.facebook.com/UnobtainiumWelding/
This fellow makes bike exhaust has well not cheap but the quality is 2nd to none. Does custom work for the dealer in Calgary AB. Bob
Would really prefer that my thread on building the Long range Missile not turn into an exhaust discussion with everyone throwing in their home town favorite. I got this and will share stuff as it happens. I promise.
have you gave any thought of making your own pipe?
Someone asked for a picture of the left side, here you go.
The primary drive case is a '94 and up inner casting with whatever year TC outer cover. No thing was modified to anything in the primary drive to make the mid shift. its all untouched factory stuff. The bagger trans case used during '99-'00 bolts right up to the FXR inner primary case.
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Quote from: turboprop on January 06, 2019, 07:54:38 AM
Quote from: GMR-PERFORMANCE on January 06, 2019, 07:39:09 AM
Any thought given to Fab28 ??
I have looked at their pipes and spoken with them. The pipes are gorgeous no doubt. Unfortunately, the technical details about them are very light and the fact that they intentionally hide or omit their physical location from their website throws a a flag.
They are in CA so maybe that is one reason for location and yes details seem less than but I see the pipes here and there and they do build customs
Any updates on this bike? I for one really enjoy reading Turboprops build threads.
Zach
Zach, thank you for the kind words.
3-Phase Cycle Electric charging system is in. I did a small production run of custom FXR top engine mounts with integrated TC style coil mounting. Made from .250" stainless.
Rear brake MC and reservoir issues have been sorted out. In a nut shell, the FXR rear MC has a nipple that points straight up and required a feed line with a very sharp bend that I didn't like (the wider Bisanno trap door interfered). Don't ask me why, but I had a rear MC from a softail (barf) in my garage that has a nipple that comes off at an angle. The reservoir is a NOS billet unit from GMA that also has unique plumbing issues. Add in the bagger oil spout on the transmission and it required a bit of thinking to sort through and make it clean.
Currently working on the primary drive setup and waiting for a custom exhaust. I just sourced a NOS Delkron '94 and up inner case. Will be using a '98 and up basket with a ceramic bearing, Rekluse clutch pack, AIM variable pressure plate, Baker fine tooth adjuster, Vulcan Eng. fixed front sprocket, RK Chain, and an EVO Ind. 10/84 ring and pinion.
The exhaust is a special version (different step dimensions) of the FAB28 High Output pipe.
The Anti-Gravity battery with Jump Start is on order. I still have a bunch of wiring to cleanup under the gas tank and around the top tree. I still need to source some plug wires from Magna-Core. And there are maybe a dozen or so 12pt bolts that I need to source.
Will post pics when I have the pipe installed and the primary put together.
Goal is to ride this bike to Rolling Thunder this summer and then out to Cali for the FXR of Cali main event.
Nice looking scoot..... but I think you need to start doing some sit-ups. :hyst:
:agree: :hyst: ..... or is that derby bending the light ??? :scratch:
Quote from: koko3052 on March 11, 2019, 06:01:06 PM
Nice looking scoot..... but I think you need to start doing some sit-ups. :hyst:
More HP is easier than shedding weight! :hyst:
Turbo, at least put a shirt on next time you take pics!
Quote from: PoorUB on March 11, 2019, 07:21:33 PM
Quote from: koko3052 on March 11, 2019, 06:01:06 PM
Nice looking scoot..... but I think you need to start doing some sit-ups. :hyst:
More HP is easier than shedding weight! :hyst:
Turbo, at least put a shirt on next time you take pics!
Lucky I was wearing pants.
Just what I was thinking!
I wasn't going there
Wouldn't you guys much rather have another in-depth, never-ending debate, with everyone chiming in to say the same thing. Maybe lifters or oil ?
It is still winter over most of the USA. Whatever we can find for entertainment!
Quote from: turboprop on March 11, 2019, 05:41:40 PM
Will be using a '98 and up basket with a ceramic bearing, Rekluse clutch pack, AIM variable pressure plate,
Looking forward to feedback on the above.
Quote from: kd on March 11, 2019, 06:14:54 PM
:agree: :hyst: ..... or is that derby bending the light ??? :scratch:
I'll by that.
Thanks, I needed a laugh today
Turbo, you mentioned Rolling Thunder, only two months away, hard to believe. Hope you get this up and running with some shakedown runs in time. It should be quite the event this year being the last one. Makes me want to ride with the Run For The Wall one more time, but I don't know if I could handle the emotion, it still stops me when I think about it ten years later.
Good luck! Looking forward to you getting this on the road.
Since this is going to be a long range (I'm guessing touring) missle, any reason you didn't opt for the later model with the 6 sp?
Quote from: Alan S on March 16, 2019, 04:28:32 PM
Since this is going to be a long range (I'm guessing touring) missle, any reason you didn't opt for the later model with the 6 sp?
Is that how you did yours? If so, please share how you did the mid shift. Does it look clean and use all oem FXR primary drive parts like the '99-'00 FL transmission does? Please post up a few pictures of your TC FXR with the later six speed transmission.
I'm interested in seeing it too
Quote from: HighLiner on March 17, 2019, 07:03:38 AM
I'm interested in seeing it too
My gut feeling is not only has he not put a TC engine into an FXR, but he hasn't thought through the process either. Unfortunately, I encounter this way too often. Usual thought process is to get a good deal on a 103" drivetrain with the six speed. Bigger is better right, and the six speed is even better. Then they try to figure out a way to put it in an FXR. Usually on the cheap. Of course they have seen pics online of some show bike like this. Comical. The internet is full of experts that have never really done anything but are full of advice and good ideas. But maybe Alan is the exception and has actually done this. I hope so as I would like to learn something new, but will not hold my breath waiting for pictures.
Quote from: turboprop on March 16, 2019, 05:37:51 PM
Quote from: Alan S on March 16, 2019, 04:28:32 PM
Since this is going to be a long range (I'm guessing touring) missle, any reason you didn't opt for the later model with the 6 sp?
Is that how you did yours? If so, please share how you did the mid shift. Does it look clean and use all oem FXR primary drive parts like the '99-'00 FL transmission does? Please post up a few pictures of your TC FXR with the later six speed transmission.
The guy ask a question and you go off on your all to common comeback of I am better than you and start your bashing of said person. You have helped allot of guys with FXR's but why such a dick all the time, guess you will try and hit me now.
Quote from: ecir50 on March 17, 2019, 09:49:24 AM
Quote from: turboprop on March 16, 2019, 05:37:51 PM
Quote from: Alan S on March 16, 2019, 04:28:32 PM
Since this is going to be a long range (I'm guessing touring) missle, any reason you didn't opt for the later model with the 6 sp?
Is that how you did yours? If so, please share how you did the mid shift. Does it look clean and use all oem FXR primary drive parts like the '99-'00 FL transmission does? Please post up a few pictures of your TC FXR with the later six speed transmission.
The guy ask a question and you go off on your all to common comeback of I am better than you and start your bashing of said person. You have helped allot of guys with FXR's but why such a dick all the time, guess you will try and hit me now.
<sigh> I get asked the same stuff over and over. Both online and via PM. I don't mind helping with real questions from people that are actually doing something. Unfortunately, I encounter way too many arm chair commandos with good idea fairys on their shoulder. The question that Alan asked has been discussed on this page several times. I just tried the search function and found the discussions. Too easy. Most information that people ask for is already posted, they are just lazy and want someone to serve it to them without having to make any effort on their own. Do the work. It really is that simple.
And yea, I am a dick. Don't care.
Quote from: turboprop on March 16, 2019, 05:37:51 PM
Quote from: Alan S on March 16, 2019, 04:28:32 PM
Since this is going to be a long range (I'm guessing touring) missle, any reason you didn't opt for the later model with the 6 sp?
Is that how you did yours? If so, please share how you did the mid shift. Does it look clean and use all oem FXR primary drive parts like the '99-'00 FL transmission does? Please post up a few pictures of your TC FXR with the later six speed transmission.
Since I'm not experienced with the TC/FXR conversion, I wasn't aware the 6 sp wouldn't fit.
Thanks for clearing that up, dick.
We can all be dick's but some are just more classy about it.
Quote from: Alan S on March 17, 2019, 10:27:07 AM
Quote from: turboprop on March 16, 2019, 05:37:51 PM
Quote from: Alan S on March 16, 2019, 04:28:32 PM
Since this is going to be a long range (I'm guessing touring) missle, any reason you didn't opt for the later model with the 6 sp?
Is that how you did yours? If so, please share how you did the mid shift. Does it look clean and use all oem FXR primary drive parts like the '99-'00 FL transmission does? Please post up a few pictures of your TC FXR with the later six speed transmission.
Since I'm not experienced with the TC/FXR conversion, I wasn't aware the 6 sp wouldn't fit.
Thanks for clearing that up, dick.
It wil fit. Easy. Its the mid shift that is the issue. An FXR inner primary case bolts on to the '99-'00 bagger trans. Anything after that requires a bunch of work, which either looks messy or leaks. Much easier to build a larger engine based on a TC88 platform or do a 6 in a five speed case. Not only has this been discussed several times on this forum, but on the other forum that you spend time on. I think it has even been discussed in this thread.
-The Dick (Badge of honor).
lol need to save that for a copy and paste and move on. Respect your choice since you run with the guys that have gone the path above, surely some of them have the TC with 6 speed done right? I am running evo with 98 touring case so get it but not against a TC 6 speed if done right. If went 6 speed route would seek out fabkevin how he went about addressing the mid controls. Recall seeing someone dong similar with a 2018-19 models adding mid controls.
Quote from: ecir50 on March 17, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
lol need to save that for a copy and paste and move on. Respect your choice since you run with the guys that have gone the path above, surely some of them have the TC with 6 speed done right? I am running evo with 98 touring case so get it but not against a TC 6 speed if done right. If went 6 speed route would seek out fabkevin how he went about addressing the mid controls. Recall seeing someone dong similar with a 2018-19 models adding mid controls.
Have tried it myself, and seen some really good attempts at it. In the end, all them leaked or looked like they had some sort mouse trap thing where the shifter was supposed to be. The modified late model six speed stuff looks in magazines and and such, but have never seen one on the road with miles that was functional. The best I have ever seen is my friend Franks that runs a late model bagger drive train that uses a single shift lever off of the front of the primary drive. He runs a reverse pattern shift drum. It works and doesn't leak. I think this might be about the tenth time I have explained this on this forum. Gets old.
Going forward, please take all this side show peripheral noise to a different thread. Would rather not mussy up my build thread with endless taste great/less filling bs.
Quote from: turboprop on March 17, 2019, 12:23:28 PM
Quote from: ecir50 on March 17, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
lol need to save that for a copy and paste and move on. Respect your choice since you run with the guys that have gone the path above, surely some of them have the TC with 6 speed done right? I am running evo with 98 touring case so get it but not against a TC 6 speed if done right. If went 6 speed route would seek out fabkevin how he went about addressing the mid controls. Recall seeing someone dong similar with a 2018-19 models adding mid controls.
Have tried it myself, and seen some really good attempts at it. In the end, all them leaked or looked like they had some sort mouse trap thing where the shifter was supposed to be. The modified late model six speed stuff looks in magazines and and such, but have never seen one on the road with miles that was functional. The best I have ever seen is my friend Franks that runs a late model bagger drive train that uses a single shift lever off of the front of the primary drive. He runs a reverse pattern shift drum. It works and doesn't leak. I think this might be about the tenth time I have explained this on this forum. Gets old.
Going forward, please take all this side show peripheral noise to a different thread. Would rather not mussy up my build thread with endless taste great/less filling bs.
Yup,
The "getting personal", name calling, lack of appreciation for someone who has an outstanding build here, (and who is sharing it and his expert advice on a TECH site for free), is not cool-and doesn't belong on a legit tech forum.
Some want free advice, free hand holding step by step guidance, free parts' list to do something (lazy), and then question how that information is given, or even worse, suggest that "they heard from Billy Bob's tuners builder" that it can be done another way better or cheaper...unreal.
1.
Learn-
2.
Share personal work of your own (good or bad-at least you are in the game)-
3.
Give advice (based on the subject, and your own personal success or achievement)-
4.
Stay In Your Lane-
Quote from: pwmorris on March 17, 2019, 04:55:11 PM
Quote from: turboprop on March 17, 2019, 12:23:28 PM
Quote from: ecir50 on March 17, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
lol need to save that for a copy and paste and move on. Respect your choice since you run with the guys that have gone the path above, surely some of them have the TC with 6 speed done right? I am running evo with 98 touring case so get it but not against a TC 6 speed if done right. If went 6 speed route would seek out fabkevin how he went about addressing the mid controls. Recall seeing someone dong similar with a 2018-19 models adding mid controls.
Have tried it myself, and seen some really good attempts at it. In the end, all them leaked or looked like they had some sort mouse trap thing where the shifter was supposed to be. The modified late model six speed stuff looks in magazines and and such, but have never seen one on the road with miles that was functional. The best I have ever seen is my friend Franks that runs a late model bagger drive train that uses a single shift lever off of the front of the primary drive. He runs a reverse pattern shift drum. It works and doesn't leak. I think this might be about the tenth time I have explained this on this forum. Gets old.
Going forward, please take all this side show peripheral noise to a different thread. Would rather not mussy up my build thread with endless taste great/less filling bs.
Yup,
The "getting personal", name calling, lack of appreciation for someone who has an outstanding build here, (and who is sharing it and his expert advice on a TECH site for free), is not cool-and doesn't belong on a legit tech forum.
Some want free advice, free hand holding step by step guidance, free parts' list to do something (lazy), and then question how that information is given, or even worse, suggest that "they heard from Billy Bob's tuners builder" that it can be done another way better or cheaper...unreal.
1.
Learn-
2.
Share personal work of your own (good or bad-at least you are in the game)-
3.
Give advice (based on the subject, and your own personal success or achievement)-
4.
Stay In Your Lane-
To get this back on track, my new Rekluse clutch pack arrived this weekend. Really neat stuff. Will post some pics. Going to run it with the AIM variable pressure plate. Spoke with someone at Rekluse, they had never heard of AIM, but are very interested in seeing how their clutch pack works with the variable pressure plate. They offered to swap it out for free at 20k miles.
Turbo, thanks for the update.
Pw, relax amigo its goin to be ok. I try and follow your 4 rules but thread drift isn't going away, just not possible in these formats.
Anyway appreciate what both you guys offer the community.
Update:
1. Installed Cycle Electric 3-Phase system. Wiring for it is completed.
2. Adjusted pushrods.
3. Swapped out mockup starter for an Alls Balls 1.4kw unit.
4. Installed FXRP saddle bags with custom mounts for non-P struts.
5. Bled rear bike system.
6. Installed Rekluse clutch w/VPC.
7. Installed FAB28 High-Output exhaust.
8. Sourced a set of NOS Chopper Guys aluminum side covers (not arrived yet).
As seen in the left side photos, there is still much to do on the wiring harness and I want to source another seat. That POS Harley Badlander is just there for mockup. I plan to give it to someone I don't like.
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Looks great Ed... How do you like the FAB28 pipe so far?
It's looking good ED!
Outstanding Ed, as usual.
Curious, why the 1.4 starter, and not a 1.7, a/c your motor size. fitment problems with a 1.7?
Quote from: nosjunkie on June 17, 2019, 03:40:29 PM
Looks great Ed... How do you like the FAB28 pipe so far?
Haven't fired it yet, but the fit and finish are better than most. They quoted my three weeks ARO and it was on my porch ten business later. My scrutineering says its too small for a max effort 124, but that's not what this engine is. I think it will be just fine.
Quote from: Deye76 on June 17, 2019, 04:53:54 PM
Outstanding Ed, as usual.
Curious, why the 1.4 starter, and not a 1.7, a/c your motor size. fitment problems with a 1.7?
The 1.4 barley clears the bagger oil spout. In fact, it didn't right out of the box. I had to cut down one of the really long bolts that secures the end cap. As it is now the end cap is almost touching the oil spout. Yea, I can space the oil spout out, but with the electric compression releases, 84/9 ring and pinion gears, 25/36 primary drive, 860 CCA Anti Gravity battery, 2G battery cables and a measly 10.8 compression, I am somewhat confidant the 1.4 will spin it just fine.
Looking good! Thanks for sharing the build. :beer:
The AllBalls 1.7 can be a real PITA to install.
I ordered a black 1.4 once years ago for my at that time super high compression 95" RK.
I forget where I ordered it from, but they called me & said "we are out of the black 1.4 so we are sending you the all chrome version 1.7 for the same price". I asked if they fit exactly the same and they told me it should drop right it.
When the chrome one came, it looked amazing but it seemed like it was substantially bigger than a stock starter. At the time, I didn't have a stock starter to compare it to. I had given the stock starter to a buddy of mine who needed one for a custom he was building.
I tried for over an hour to get the damn thing in but there was no way it was going to just "drop in" I finally called the place I got it from & got a very cool tech on the line who really knew his stuff. He ran down all the mods necessary to get it to fit & one of them was to space out the oil fill spout almost an inch. He said they sold a machined aluminum spacer that moved the spout out. The spacer was something like $80.00 at the time, but since I had been so patient with him he was going to send me one for free.
That spacer along with a few other mods did get it to work fine (until the starter clutch went bad) but it was just another example of the "one size fits all" aftermarket parts that don't really fit anything without unexpected mods LOL.
~John
Not trying to hijack Ed's thread, FYI, All Balls has changed their starters. The 1.7 is actually a 1/4" shorter than 1.4.
Stock and AB 1.4 are 7-1/4" in length from the end of the shaft to backside.
The 1.7 is 7" even.
Quote from: turboprop on June 17, 2019, 11:47:48 AM
Update:
1. Installed Cycle Electric 3-Phase system. Wiring for it is completed.
2. Adjusted pushrods.
3. Swapped out mockup starter for an Alls Balls 1.4kw unit.
4. Installed FXRP saddle bags with custom mounts for non-P struts.
5. Bled rear bike system.
6. Installed Rekluse clutch w/VPC.
7. Installed FAB28 High-Output exhaust.
8. Sourced a set of NOS Chopper Guys aluminum side covers (not arrived yet).
As seen in the left side photos, there is still much to do on the wiring harness and I want to source another seat. That POS Harley Badlander is just there for mockup. I plan to give it to someone I don't like.
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48081058686_c1c7b1d8cf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfL1g1)
(https://flic.kr/p/2gfKZCs)
In response to PM's requesting details about the primary drive;
1. Delkron '94 and up inner primary case.
2. Harley '04-'05 Outer cover
3. Twin Power solid primary sprocket 25 tooth.
4. RK primary chain
5. OEM clutch basket and hub w/ceramic bearing
6. Rekluse clutch pack
7. AIM billet pressure plate
8. AIM VPC95 variable pressure plate
9. Barnett spring
10. Evo industries 84 tooth ring gear w/corresponding 10 tooth pinion gear on Spike jackshaft components.
11. OEM late model primary chain adjuster w/solid shoe from Bandit Machine
12. Aluminum shifter tube w/bronze bushings honed to close fit to shifter shaft
13. NOS shifter shaft
14. Cycle Electric 3-Phase stator and rotor
15. Billet inspection cover from Vulcan Engineering
16. OEM 5-Bolt derby cover
17. All hardware is ARP polished 12pt.
18 Gaskets and seals are a mix of James and Cometic
19. Super Magnetic drain plug from Dimple.
20. Case will be filled with whatever brand Type F ATF fluid.
The FXR style inner primary case has to have one of the mounting holes modified for use with a bagger style trans case. For those familiar with the FXR setup, the mounting bolt that is accused from the right side of the bike, under the transmission, must have its threaded hole in the inner primary case drilled through and then spot faced. In addition to the two bolts that attach the inner primary to the transmission in the FXR configuration, the bagger configuration has a third mounting bolt at about the six o:clock position.
The shifter tube must be notched to provide clearance for the '04-'05 outer primary cover.
Please feel free to ask any specific questions about this setup or the project in general. Glad to share details and some of the specifics about why certain decisions were made.
Turboprop, I'm always impressed with your attention to detail, your skills in putting these bikes together, and your willingness to share the important minutia of building these potent machines. Thank you for your efforts to document all of that and openly share it. Just a great looking machine!
^100% agree with Hoss.
Learned a lot from Turbo's threads and it takes so much trial and error out of a build like this if I ever get the opportunity.
Really appreciate the knowledge you freely give!
Any pics of the inner primary mod?
Quote from: HighLiner on June 23, 2019, 12:44:59 PM
Any pics of the inner primary mod?
The ship has passed for an opportunity to take a pic of the mod. However, anyone putting a bagger trans case into an FXR and using an FXR inner primary will understand everything that I have written below. No t saying you are one, but really have no time to entertain the curiosity seekers.
PSA - Anyone that is doing an FXR/TC conversion and needs more clarification on this aspect is very welcome to PM me for one on one discussion about this modification.
I enjoy seeing really nice work and attention to detail appreciate you posting the build so folks can learn from it
Quote from: 1workinman on June 23, 2019, 02:35:59 PM
I enjoy seeing really nice work and attention to detail appreciate you posting the build so folks can learn from it
:up: :up:
~John
Quote from: turboprop on June 23, 2019, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: HighLiner on June 23, 2019, 12:44:59 PM
Any pics of the inner primary mod?
The ship has passed for an opportunity to take a pic of the mod. However, anyone putting a bagger trans case into an FXR and using an FXR inner primary will understand everything that I have written below. No t saying you are one, but really have no time to entertain the curiosity seekers.
PSA - Anyone that is doing an FXR/TC conversion and needs more clarification on this aspect is very welcome to PM me for one on one discussion about this modification.
your inbox is full.
Quote from: HighLiner on June 26, 2019, 02:03:01 PM
Quote from: turboprop on June 23, 2019, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: HighLiner on June 23, 2019, 12:44:59 PM
Any pics of the inner primary mod?
The ship has passed for an opportunity to take a pic of the mod. However, anyone putting a bagger trans case into an FXR and using an FXR inner primary will understand everything that I have written below. No t saying you are one, but really have no time to entertain the curiosity seekers.
PSA - Anyone that is doing an FXR/TC conversion and needs more clarification on this aspect is very welcome to PM me for one on one discussion about this modification.
your inbox is full.
Not any more.
Might seem like a crazy question but is that exhaust FXR specific or is it the FLH version?
Just curious as to how it is mounted at the transmission.
Quote from: Scotty on June 26, 2019, 02:44:32 PM
Might seem like a crazy question but is that exhaust FXR specific or is it the FLH version?
Just curious as to how it is mounted at the transmission.
It's an off the rack pipe by FAB28. Aside from the heads, the only other mounting point is the lower bolts in the trap door. The mounting bracket is designed to clear the different angle of the FXR clutch cable, the FLH oil spout and the FXR rear master cylinder. Out of the box the pipe can be mounted to drive trains that use either the FXR or bagger style transmission cases.
https://www.fab28industries.com/collections/exhaust-systems/products/fxr-high-performance (https://www.fab28industries.com/collections/exhaust-systems/products/fxr-high-performance)
Quote from: turboprop on June 26, 2019, 02:56:07 PM
Quote from: Scotty on June 26, 2019, 02:44:32 PM
Might seem like a crazy question but is that exhaust FXR specific or is it the FLH version?
Just curious as to how it is mounted at the transmission.
It's an off the rack pipe by FAB28. Aside from the heads, the only other mounting point is the lower bolts in the trap door. The mounting bracket is designed to clear the different angle of the FXR clutch cable, the FLH oil spout and the FXR rear master cylinder. Out of the box the pipe can be mounted to drive trains that use either the FXR or bagger style transmission cases.
https://www.fab28industries.com/collections/exhaust-systems/products/fxr-high-performance (https://www.fab28industries.com/collections/exhaust-systems/products/fxr-high-performance)
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Update.
1. Primary drive is finished.
2. Rear MC and reservoir has been sorted out, plumbed and bleed.
3. Engine vent system has been sorted out, plumbed.
4. Starter, battery and cables are in place.
5. Cycle Electric 3-Phase charging system installed.
6. Engine/drivetrain components have been powder coated black wrinkle.
7. Added FXRP bags.
1. The primary drive major components: NOS '98 up basket and hub, ceramic bearing, Rekluse clutch pack (not the auto version), RK chain, Vulcan sprocket 25/36, Vulcan shifter tube with custom honed bushings, Baker fine tooth adjuster, Delkron '94 and up inner case, OEM 5-hole outer cover, Vulcan billet inspection cover, VPC pressure plate, ARP 12pt stainless hardware, Mobile 1 ATF, Super Magnet drain drain plug.
2. Rear MC uses an outer case from a bagger (different angle on feed port), clear tubing, NOS GMA billet reservoir. Galfer Dot 4 fluid, Goodrich pressure sensor/banjo bolt, Galfer 3AN hydraulic line.
3. Vent port on engine case has been plugged, vent line on oil spout is fitted with 6AN hose and routed to an industrial one-way valve. Oil spout has been machined to allow clearance for ARP 12pt bolts.
4. The All Balls 1.4kw starter out of the box had clearance issues with the oil spout and had to have the ends of the long bolts cut down. The Ant-Gravity 860 CCA battery is slightly shorter than the oem size and required a lift block to allow the battery mounting bracket to function. A male/female spacer block with a ¾ lift was made from black delkron. The 2ga battery cables were made from high grade copper cable with gold ends and have 10ga dongles that connect to circuit breakers and chassis ground.
5. Self explanatory.
6. While the chassis has been blacked, the engine, trans and primary drive were built using the typical chrome components. I didn't like how it looked so I pulled all of the chrome pieces and had them powder coated in wrinkle black by an award winning shop. Looks good with the ARP 12pt stainless hardware.
7. Bags came from FXR Division and work with the later style straight fender struts. Bags were flawless, the brackets needed some adjustments.
To do list:
1. Add engine and trans fluids.
2. Complete modifications to front portion of the wiring harness.
3. Decide on supplemental driving lights.
4. Fabricate brackets for the AFR gauge and radar detector.
5. Fabricate new mount for exhaust.
6. Fabricate mounts for rifle and handgun.
7. Integrate cellular jammer.
Before and after pics.
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Coming along very nicely. :up: :up:
All the good stuff in your bikes, no short cuts.
Have been going back and forth about wether or not to blacken the pipe. Was waiting until the engine/drive train was back together before deciding. The pipe really stands out. Not sure I like it this way.
Also thinking about pulling the fork legs and having DLC applied to the DX tubes.
stunning, now you say it the pipe does stick out.
Have to remember the stainless pipe will dull down and change color with use!
I think the pipe needs to be black.
Quote from: HighLiner on August 17, 2019, 04:36:19 PM
Have to remember the stainless pipe will dull down and change color with use!
:up: I think as it turns a little burnt gold from use it'll look right at home. I think black would be too much black on that side of the bike. The gold tinted exhaust would add a little contrast.
Looks way mo' better with the black engine covers........really nice work! And, thanks for sharing the technical info! Bike is looking great, and would be a rush to ride. :up: :up: I'd wait to see what color the exhaust settles into, before blacking it.
I agree with Ohio. As the pipe seasons it'll look hot. (and right at home the way it should)
If the color changes then maybe will be cool, I always looked at my bike when I built it and said where do my eyes go first , just my opinion, nice job on bike very cool ,
What are you thinking for a rifle mount? On my 2007 stock bags I mocked up a set of J hooks that I bonded to the inside of the bag. I could fit my 10.5" AR with Law Tactical folding stock adapter in. Removal was pretty quick as well. Those FXR division bags look to have more room than a stock touring bag.
My purpose was to be able to ride to the range. The place I used to go was quite a ways out of town down a really nice road. I hated taking the truck on such a nice road, so figured out a way to take the bike. Obviously your purpose may be different, so I'm sure design will follow need like your stuff does. Seeing pics of your work so far, I'm sure you'll come up with something functional/cool.
Zach
Quote from: biggzed on August 19, 2019, 01:11:45 PM
What are you thinking for a rifle mount? On my 2007 stock bags I mocked up a set of J hooks that I bonded to the inside of the bag. I could fit my 10.5" AR with Law Tactical folding stock adapter in. Removal was pretty quick as well. Those FXR division bags look to have more room than a stock touring bag.
My purpose was to be able to ride to the range. The place I used to go was quite a ways out of town down a really nice road. I hated taking the truck on such a nice road, so figured out a way to take the bike. Obviously your purpose may be different, so I'm sure design will follow need like your stuff does. Seeing pics of your work so far, I'm sure you'll come up with something functional/cool.
Zach
In the past I used simple bungee cords and strapped a long gun across the top of the handle bars, sort of wedged in around the mirror stems but my tastes have become a bit more refined lately. Would like the means to attach either a short barrel black rifle or 7.62 wooden scout of some sort and be able to leave it on the bike while I went into a restaurant.
Great bike. thanks for sharing. My retirement project will
Be an FXR. Be ready for many a dumb questions.
Quote from: dynabagger on August 19, 2019, 04:06:28 PM
Great bike. thanks for sharing. My retirement project will
Be an FXR. Be ready for many a dumb questions.
I hear this a lot form people. FXRs are currently somewhat trendy. If I could give you some insight into these bikes it would be that with the exception of a handful of CVO bikes, the last FXR was produced twenty five years ago. The oldest FXRs are thirty seven years old. Be prepared to do a total teardown to a bare frame, split the engine cases, gut the trans, etc. Not only will most everything be worn out, dry rotted cracked, etc, but most every piece of allimunum will have stripped threads, gauged mating surfaces, etc. To add to the pain, a lot of the consumables and major components are long since gone from the standard supply chain. Fun.
I currently own three FXRs that I have taken down to the bare frame and built up. The FXR trendiness has really driven up the prices of stuff but that's OK. I suspect it will be short lived, just like the billet softail thing of the mid-90s. Eventually there will be a whole bunch of really nice FXRs with high bars and various fairings for sale for cheap.
Best of luck with your project. Feel free to ask me questions, but do it in the open forum and search first. As you may have noticed, I get really annoyed by people starting posts on subject that have been discussed countless times. 'What are the best lifters for my blue 04 SE Deuce, with gay pipes?' - Don't be that guy.
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Damn Turbo that was going to be my first question 🥴
Quote from: turboprop on August 19, 2019, 05:16:38 PMEventually there will be a whole bunch of really nice FXRs with high bars and various fairings for sale for cheap.
When that happens, I hope I can find one that has been built with the attention to detail that you are putting into yours. I'd love to own one, but I know I don't have the skill and patience to build one right.
Zach
Quote from: turboprop on August 17, 2019, 01:34:49 PM
Update.
1. Primary drive is finished.
2. Rear MC and reservoir has been sorted out, plumbed and bleed.
3. Engine vent system has been sorted out, plumbed.
4. Starter, battery and cables are in place.
5. Cycle Electric 3-Phase charging system installed.
6. Engine/drivetrain components have been powder coated black wrinkle.
7. Added FXRP bags.
1. The primary drive major components: NOS '98 up basket and hub, ceramic bearing, Rekluse clutch pack (not the auto version), RK chain, Vulcan sprocket 25/36, Vulcan shifter tube with custom honed bushings, Baker fine tooth adjuster, Delkron '94 and up inner case, OEM 5-hole outer cover, Vulcan billet inspection cover, VPC pressure plate, ARP 12pt stainless hardware, Mobile 1 ATF, Super Magnet drain drain plug.
2. Rear MC uses an outer case from a bagger (different angle on feed port), clear tubing, NOS GMA billet reservoir. Galfer Dot 4 fluid, Goodrich pressure sensor/banjo bolt, Galfer 3AN hydraulic line.
3. Vent port on engine case has been plugged, vent line on oil spout is fitted with 6AN hose and routed to an industrial one-way valve. Oil spout has been machined to allow clearance for ARP 12pt bolts.
4. The All Balls 1.4kw starter out of the box had clearance issues with the oil spout and had to have the ends of the long bolts cut down. The Ant-Gravity 860 CCA battery is slightly shorter than the oem size and required a lift block to allow the battery mounting bracket to function. A male/female spacer block with a ¾ lift was made from black delkron. The 2ga battery cables were made from high grade copper cable with gold ends and have 10ga dongles that connect to circuit breakers and chassis ground.
5. Self explanatory.
6. While the chassis has been blacked, the engine, trans and primary drive were built using the typical chrome components. I didn't like how it looked so I pulled all of the chrome pieces and had them powder coated in wrinkle black by an award winning shop. Looks good with the ARP 12pt stainless hardware.
7. Bags came from FXR Division and work with the later style straight fender struts. Bags were flawless, the brackets needed some adjustments.
To do list:
1. Add engine and trans fluids.
2. Complete modifications to front portion of the wiring harness.
3. Decide on supplemental driving lights.
4. Fabricate brackets for the AFR gauge and radar detector.
5. Fabricate new mount for exhaust.
6. Fabricate mounts for rifle and handgun.
7. Integrate cellular jammer.
Before and after pics.
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Update:
The FXR Jam a few weeks out has motivated to get this done. So, a couple days ago I got it on the lift and started to get reacquainted with the project. I fired it up last night. Four heat cycles have been completed. No fluid leaks, but there is an exhaust leak. Still have a bunch of electrical stuff to to tighten up but everything is working to include the turn signals.
The engine in this bike is not my typical style but seems very torquey. The 1.4kw Tech Cycle starter combined with a 680 CCA Anti Gravity battery spins the TC124 w/10.5 compression RedShift 657 cams and harley compression releases with ease.
Target is to have everything buttoned up and a couple shake down rides completed in time to ride to a local bike night with my boys.
Still not sure how I feel about having an FXR with saddlebags, turn signals and a visor. Seems so baaggerish (barf x2).
That's one nice looking bagger!
Looks good, and bags and fairing are functional so why not.
Just keep it up on the rear wheel like all the other FXR's and no one will notice.
As usual excellent work. Think you'll like the bags.
I'd like to get your impressions of the RS cams when you get it dialed in and some miles on her.
It all looks good to me.
Quote from: Ohio HD on May 20, 2020, 03:45:11 PM
I'd like to get your impressions of the RS cams when you get it dialed in and some miles on her.
It all looks good to me.
My choice of the RedShift 657 cams was heavily influenced by the following:
1. Legendary racer and engine developer Dick Hilferty (RIP) designed these cams specifically for large displacement touring bikes.
2. I rode a heavy ass bagger with a TC124 and almost the same build as Torque-A-Hoe. That bagger was injected and had giant bagger style exhaust pipes. My bike has a Mik48 and a very different 2-1 pipe. That bagger had torque everywhere. Lots of it. I think I could have pulled a small house off it's foundation with that bike.
3. Have always wanted to build a early intake, high lift big block and put it in a lightweight bike. I think this is going to be a lot of fun.
Update:
Heat cycles completed and have rode the bike a few times. No issues with engine, transmission, brakes or suspension. I forgot that I used a worn out clutch pack for mock up, it has to be replaced, and the drive train needs to be aligned. But overall everything is pretty good.
Still whittling away at the wiring harness. Would like to go back in time and throat punch the guy that recommended I use a harness from a Dyna. Worse idea ever. Clown probably read it on a forum from someone else who read it on a forum.
The TC124 bagger build in the lightweight chassis is fun. The aluminum pro-taper handle bars with ⅞" ends are really nice. They seem to dampen what little vibrations are left after the rubber mounted drive train. The dirt bike sized grips are a plus. Using the turn signals is going to take some getting used to. Hate the saddle bags, but will come to terms with having them. The close ratio gear set from Andrews with the back cut by Zippers and the micro polishing by Short Block Charlie seems to shift better than any harley I have ever ridden, but have not had a chance to really beat on it yet.
Did I mention that using the wiring harness from a dyna (barf!) was bad idea? Everything is on the wrong side or in the wrong location. And there are so many freaking wires. I am already planning to rip this mess out this winter and replace it with an M-Unit and M-Button from MotoGadget this winter.
I also discovered a possible upgrade to valve stem cores. I know. The rear tire has had a slow leak for a year or two. I figured the new textured powder coating on the rim was causing the leak. Well, after submersing the entire wheel in my pool (Redneck like a MoFo) it was obvious the leak was coming from inside the valve stem. I replaced the core with one that was intended for an AC system. Also used a core valve specific torque driver to sat the new stem. My calibrated air pressure gauge with a 4" dial could not detect any pressure loss over two weeks. I don't know. Maybe. The AC grade cores cost a few pennies more than standard automotive cores. Am told by AC techs that the calibrated core driver is critical.
:up:
Good info
Not sure if this link will work. My video skills obviously need work.
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Quote from: turboprop on May 26, 2020, 07:20:42 AM
Update:
Heat cycles completed and have rode the bike a few times. No issues with engine, transmission, brakes or suspension. I forgot that I used a worn out clutch pack for mock up, it has to be replaced, and the drive train needs to be aligned. But overall everything is pretty good.
Still whittling away at the wiring harness. Would like to go back in time and throat punch the guy that recommended I use a harness from a Dyna. Worse idea ever. Clown probably read it on a forum from someone else who read it on a forum.
The TC124 bagger build in the lightweight chassis is fun. The aluminum pro-taper handle bars with ⅞" ends are really nice. They seem to dampen what little vibrations are left after the rubber mounted drive train. The dirt bike sized grips are a plus. Using the turn signals is going to take some getting used to. Hate the saddle bags, but will come to terms with having them. The close ratio gear set from Andrews with the back cut by Zippers and the micro polishing by Short Block Charlie seems to shift better than any harley I have ever ridden, but have not had a chance to really beat on it yet.
Did I mention that using the wiring harness from a dyna (barf!) was bad idea? Everything is on the wrong side or in the wrong location. And there are so many freaking wires. I am already planning to rip this mess out this winter and replace it with an M-Unit and M-Button from MotoGadget this winter.
I also discovered a possible upgrade to valve stem cores. I know. The rear tire has had a slow leak for a year or two. I figured the new textured powder coating on the rim was causing the leak. Well, after submersing the entire wheel in my pool (Redneck like a MoFo) it was obvious the leak was coming from inside the valve stem. I replaced the core with one that was intended for an AC system. Also used a core valve specific torque driver to sat the new stem. My calibrated air pressure gauge with a 4" dial could not detect any pressure loss over two weeks. I don't know. Maybe. The AC grade cores cost a few pennies more than standard automotive cores. Am told by AC techs that the calibrated core driver is critical.
I feel ya. I built a fly by wire harness with cruise for my 01 this winter, if you were bored....lol
Quote from: turboprop on May 26, 2020, 07:20:42 AM
Update:
Did I mention that using the wiring harness from a dyna (barf!) was bad idea? Everything is on the wrong side or in the wrong location. And there are so many freaking wires. I am already planning to rip this mess out this winter and replace it with an M-Unit and M-Button from MotoGadget this winter.
Best thing I have done to 2 FXR's is the M-Unit Blue and the M-Button
Cleans up so much crap wiring on the FXR's
Update.
I was hit by a car a couple days ago. Hit and run. T-boned at an intersection. I am alright but have a lot of road rash. The left side of the Blue/White FXR was tore up pretty bad. After getting hit, I simply picked up the bike and a few pieces and rode it home. No cops or insurance companies were involved.
There is a national FXR event in about a week and half that I intended to ride this new bike to. Fortunately, I have enough stuff on hand to rebuild and have been very loyal to my powder coater and painter. Some parts that I didnt have are coming in from all over the country. Seems every day I drop off a batch at the powder coater, pick up a batch and then go home and tinker. The last piece of sheet metal arrived yesterday and my painter has assured me everything will be done by Monday.
The police caught the guy that hit me. Was his own fault actually. He left the scene after hitting me but called the police to report a down motorcyclist. I was long gone by the time the cops arrived, but the cops did what they do. Anyways, I will heal and the bike is almost fixed.
Well that was a turn I didn't expect. Glad to hear you are mostly ok. F'ing A-hole that leaves a human being lye there like that.
Good luck getting it back together in time for your meet.
Glad to hear your ok after that!
Quote from: Hossamania on June 02, 2020, 07:46:03 PM
Well that was a turn I didn't expect. Glad to hear you are mostly ok. F'ing A-hole that leaves a human being lye there like that.
Good luck getting it back together in time for your meet.
To be fair, he called 911 but did not stop because he recognized me from his daughters school and was worried that I would beat him up, that he would be deported back to Mexico (his wife and him have green cards) and he doesn't have the means to pay for anything. He is a bricklayer that hasn't worked since this Corona thing began and his wife is a house keeper. They dont have anything. After meeting with him on Sunday I got down and prayed with him (holly day of obligation for both of us). All of us are going to be alright.
I gotta be honest, that took yet another turn I did not expect!
You're a good man, turbo. Sounds like he is too. I apologise for calling him names.
Quote from: turboprop on June 02, 2020, 08:10:37 PM
To be fair, he called 911 but did not stop because he recognized me from his daughters school and was worried that I would beat him up, that he would be deported back to Mexico (his wife and him have green cards) and he doesn't have the means to pay for anything. He is a bricklayer that hasn't worked since this Corona thing began and his wife is a house keeper. They dont have anything. After meeting with him on Sunday I got down and prayed with him (holly day of obligation for both of us). All of us are going to be alright.
Glad that your OK, bikes are machines, they can be fixed.
You're a big man for keeping that perspective with the other party, and I respect that. Anyone can get angry, few can look past their own situation.
wow Ed...I glad your okay. :up:
I agree with Brian...bikes can be fixed..."us"...the older we get the longer it seems for us to take to heal. Hopefully the road rash heals fast.
Holy Moly !
So glad to read that you were able to walk away without serious injury turboprop. Roadrash still sucks anyway you look at it. I admire your attitude about the situation & hope that you heal well. Really look forward to your post telling us all that you got your bike back together in time for the FXR event coming up !
Quote from: turboprop on June 02, 2020, 08:10:37 PM
Quote from: Hossamania on June 02, 2020, 07:46:03 PM
Well that was a turn I didn't expect. Glad to hear you are mostly ok. F'ing A-hole that leaves a human being lye there like that.
Good luck getting it back together in time for your meet.
To be fair, he called 911 but did not stop because he recognized me from his daughters school and was worried that I would beat him up, that he would be deported back to Mexico (his wife and him have green cards) and he doesn't have the means to pay for anything. He is a bricklayer that hasn't worked since this Corona thing began and his wife is a house keeper. They dont have anything. After meeting with him on Sunday I got down and prayed with him (holly day of obligation for both of us). All of us are going to be alright.
You handled that better than I would have, I had similar circumstances in Houston TX on my Norton 750 years ago concerning the wreck.
My hat off toya.
"was worried that I would beat him up, "
Don't doubt that for a minute. Also don't doubt your forgiveness, and good will towards others. Have witnessed that several times. Going to miss seeing you in the valley. Stay safe.
Ok, who kidnapped our Turbo and replaced him with this polite and understanding person! :potstir:
Funny how things work out! Glad you and the FXR will recover. I'm not sure I would have been so understanding.
Large Respect. Welcome back. :up: :up: :up: :up:
Quote from: Deye76 on June 03, 2020, 06:14:18 AM
"was worried that I would beat him up, "
Don't doubt that for a minute. Also don't doubt your forgiveness, and good will towards others. Have witnessed that several times. Going to miss seeing you in the valley. Stay safe.
I am planning on being at MV on one of my FXRs, have a room reserved at the Holiday. Checking in Wednesday, checkout Monday. I have to make a go/no-go decision on which FXR to ride. The new blue/white bike with the higher bars, saddle bags and visor will be a lot more comfortable than the red/white bike. I am still sore and stiff. Blsting the red bike for four hours to MV will not be fun right now. The blue bike, is still somewhat dismantled but is getting more whole every day. Unfortunately, it is a new build that still requires a good deal of local shake down. I plan to be sitting in a red rocking chair drinking coffee when the sun comes up next Thursday. Hope to see you there as well.
Quote from: turboprop on June 02, 2020, 08:10:37 PM
Quote from: Hossamania on June 02, 2020, 07:46:03 PM
Well that was a turn I didn't expect. Glad to hear you are mostly ok. F'ing A-hole that leaves a human being lye there like that.
Good luck getting it back together in time for your meet.
To be fair, he called 911 but did not stop because he recognized me from his daughters school and was worried that I would beat him up, that he would be deported back to Mexico (his wife and him have green cards) and he doesn't have the means to pay for anything. He is a bricklayer that hasn't worked since this Corona thing began and his wife is a house keeper. They dont have anything. After meeting with him on Sunday I got down and prayed with him (holly day of obligation for both of us). All of us are going to be alright.
Glad you're ok. You are a better man than I.
Quote from: Deye76 on June 03, 2020, 06:14:18 AM
"was worried that I would beat him up, "
Don't doubt that for a minute. Also don't doubt your forgiveness, and good will towards others. Have witnessed that several times. Going to miss seeing you in the valley. Stay safe.
Yes, I have seen Ed's kindness to others as well.
Very cool. Glad you are ok.
Quote from: aharp on June 03, 2020, 07:14:58 AM
Quote from: turboprop on June 02, 2020, 08:10:37 PM
Quote from: Hossamania on June 02, 2020, 07:46:03 PM
Well that was a turn I didn't expect. Glad to hear you are mostly ok. F'ing A-hole that leaves a human being lye there like that.
Good luck getting it back together in time for your meet.
To be fair, he called 911 but did not stop because he recognized me from his daughters school and was worried that I would beat him up, that he would be deported back to Mexico (his wife and him have green cards) and he doesn't have the means to pay for anything. He is a bricklayer that hasn't worked since this Corona thing began and his wife is a house keeper. They dont have anything. After meeting with him on Sunday I got down and prayed with him (holly day of obligation for both of us). All of us are going to be alright.
Glad you're ok. You are a better man than I.
:up: :beer:
Update:
Paint was supposed to be ready last night. Have I mentioned how much I distrust bike painters?
Have been chasing an intake leak that didnt exist. The engine was running lean almost everywhere. I replaced the intake seals that looked really bad but the new seal didnt really affect the lean AFR that much. Turned out to be a jetting issue that I didnt understand. At the root of my frustration is I have two FXRs, both with TC124 engines and Mik48 carb setups. One of the bikes has been tuned really, really good. One would think the tune package would be very close for the other engine. Nope.
Engine A has 11.9 compression and cams that close the intake at 60 degrees. It was built to run. Engine B has 10.5 compression and cams with an intake close of 45 degrees. It was built to pull a tractor trailer. Engine B seems to require a lot more fuel in the low and mid range area. It makes sense now, but hasn't for the last week.
Everything that was damaged in the wreck has been replaced, re-powder coated, repainted, etc. Chasing this tune has provided a bit of saddle time to see what needs to be adjusted. This bike is now very comfortable, rides silky smooth, stops better than anything harley has ever made, shifts are very precise, the gearing is almost perfect, and the clutch feel is much better with the new pack.
For those that have not bet following along, here are the highlights:
'89 FXR frame. Alignment checked and straightened, late model bagger arm.
TC 124" built on a set of early five speed era cases, Red Shift 657 cams, extensive headwork and internal coatings. Mik48 carb, Super D intake, HPI cleaner, Fab28 HO pipe.
Andrews gear set back cut by Zippers, late model TC drum and pawl.
RaceTech shocks, 15"
FXDX Fork with Racetech internals setup by GMD Atlanta
Galfer rotors and pads all around, Harley/Brembo calipers front and rear
Barnett carbon fiber pack in a '98 and up basket w/variable pressure plate, hydraulic actuation
Will post some pics once the stuff returns from paint.
I am still a little sore/still from the wreck. One of my legs is still a little tweaked and am walking with a slight limp.
Hope you recover well. :up:
Thought you were doing the Rekluse pack in this?
I have to say, when you do a build, you do not fool around!
Quote from: cheech on June 08, 2020, 08:38:27 AM
Hope you recover well. :up:
Thought you were doing the Rekluse pack in this?
The Rekluse pack went in the red/white bike. This bike had a SE pack that I had and recycled. I decided after the first ride to replace it. I hummed and hawed over which brand, with material, number of plates and even fluid (gay). The extra plate kit was a no brainer. Carbon fiber was chosen over kevlar or red alto just because it is newer tech and I like trying new things. I can buy Barnett at dealer prices. So there is the decision matrix.
Just got up to date on this thread.
Very cool to hear you describe your empathy for the guy that hit you. I was humbled reading that.
Glad you are more or less ok. I suspect you were riding with riding gear?
Reminded me of my wreck seven years ago.
Your bike looks great. Interesting about the jetting/different cam timing issue.
Quote from: Hossamania on June 08, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
I have to say, when you do a build, you do not fool around!
Having multiple bikes is a critical component of doing builds like this. Not being in a rush to ride it affords me the opportunity to set a goal and move towards it without taking short cuts or skimping.
I hate my bagger, but it is the constant. It is always up, I never tinker with it, heck, I hardly change oil in it. But it is always available to ride.
My other FXR is the red/white Smack-A-Hoe bike. This bike has turned out to be be a brute, but is uber reliable and so much fun to blast around on. Although I have ridden as far as five states away, it is not setup for this type of riding, has no storage capacity and the ergonomics do not support long stretches.
The blue/white Torque-A-Hoe bike is more along the lines of a 1970 hot rod Lincoln. Big block, soft suspension, comfy seats, nice little trunk and comfortable ergonomics. I plan to eventually convert this bike over to FI and may do a fly by wire system with integrated cruise control. Maybe. Have to sort out the gas tank/fuel pump issue first.
Quote from: guydoc77 on June 08, 2020, 09:08:12 AM
Just got up to date on this thread.
Very cool to hear you describe your empathy for the guy that hit you. I was humbled reading that.
Glad you are more or less ok. I suspect you were riding with riding gear?
Reminded me of my wreck seven years ago.
Your bike looks great. Interesting about the jetting/different cam timing issue.
I wish. Instead I was wearing a pair of painters pants, a light fishing shirt and a pair of sneakers. My wife and daughter returned a few minutes after I got home to find me in the garage with my clothes ripped up, blood everywhere and me unbolting damaged pieces from the bike. The witch doctor instinct is strong in my wife. She wanted me to burn an entire day in the ER, take a bunch of pills, wash, etc. No time for any of that. My former team medic (Now a PA) made a house call. Leg is still a bit sore but I try to hide it from from my daughter.
I will add that for over twenty years of service in Airborne, Ranger and Special Operation service that required almost constant high-risk activity, I was never really worried about getting hurt. I always figured one of my buddies would hit me with the happy juice and eventually I might come through and be alright. This wreck was the first time I was hurt that I didn't have a teammate right there to hit me with the juice. I had to climb out form under my bike, pick it up and limp home. I healed up without much effort. The only happy juice my bike will get is me putting in the work.
The guy that hit me and his family are so relieved that I refused to press charges or ask them to pay for damages. I am glad I could give them that. Life for them is tough enough without this.
Holy crap! I don't follow the TC forum a lot, just pop'd in and saw this. DAMN glad to hear you are OK and the bike survived and back on the mend. Hat's off to you, you're a good man.
-JW
Tried to add a video but not working.
Ed you can't upload a video here like a photo. If you have somewhere to host it, just paste the link into a post.
Quote from: turboprop on June 08, 2020, 09:15:16 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on June 08, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
I have to say, when you do a build, you do not fool around!
Having multiple bikes is a critical component of doing builds like this. Not being in a rush to ride it affords me the opportunity to set a goal and move towards it without taking short cuts or skimping.
I hate my bagger, but it is the constant. It is always up, I never tinker with it, heck, I hardly change oil in it. But it is always available to ride.
My other FXR is the red/white Smack-A-Hoe bike. This bike has turned out to be be a brute, but is uber reliable and so much fun to blast around on. Although I have ridden as far as five states away, it is not setup for this type of riding, has no storage capacity and the ergonomics do not support long stretches.
The blue/white Torque-A-Hoe bike is more along the lines of a 1970 hot rod Lincoln. Big block, soft suspension, comfy seats, nice little trunk and comfortable ergonomics. I plan to eventually convert this bike over to FI and may do a fly by wire system with integrated cruise control. Maybe. Have to sort out the gas tank/fuel pump issue first.
Ha, I like that name.
This should open to a video.
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Got it looking great in short order. :up:
Do you still have the black FXR pictured in the beginning of this thread?
The blue one came out great. Sorry for the hard get off, but sounds like you are healed and all is going to work out.
Zach
Quote from: turboprop on June 08, 2020, 09:15:16 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on June 08, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
I have to say, when you do a build, you do not fool around!
Having multiple bikes is a critical component of doing builds like this. Not being in a rush to ride it affords me the opportunity to set a goal and move towards it without taking short cuts or skimping.
I hate my bagger, but it is the constant. It is always up, I never tinker with it, heck, I hardly change oil in it. But it is always available to ride.
My other FXR is the red/white Smack-A-Hoe bike. This bike has turned out to be be a brute, but is uber reliable and so much fun to blast around on. Although I have ridden as far as five states away, it is not setup for this type of riding, has no storage capacity and the ergonomics do not support long stretches.
The blue/white Torque-A-Hoe bike is more along the lines of a 1970 hot rod Lincoln. Big block, soft suspension, comfy seats, nice little trunk and comfortable ergonomics. I plan to eventually convert this bike over to FI and may do a fly by wire system with integrated cruise control. Maybe. Have to sort out the gas tank/fuel pump issue first.
Quote from: turboprop on June 08, 2020, 09:27:29 AM
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Just got up to date on this thread.
Very cool to hear you describe your empathy for the guy that hit you. I was humbled reading that.
Glad you are more or less ok. I suspect you were riding with riding gear?
Reminded me of my wreck seven years ago.
Your bike looks great. Interesting about the jetting/different cam timing issue.
I wish. Instead I was wearing a pair of painters pants, a light fishing shirt and a pair of sneakers. My wife and daughter returned a few minutes after I got home to find me in the garage with my clothes ripped up, blood everywhere and me unbolting damaged pieces from the bike. The witch doctor instinct is strong in my wife. She wanted me to burn an entire day in the ER, take a bunch of pills, wash, etc. No time for any of that. My former team medic (Now a PA) made a house call. Leg is still a bit sore but I try to hide it from from my daughter.
I will add that for over twenty years of service in Airborne, Ranger and Special Operation service that required almost constant high-risk activity, I was never really worried about getting hurt. I always figured one of my buddies would hit me with the happy juice and eventually I might come through and be alright. This wreck was the first time I was hurt that I didn't have a teammate right there to hit me with the juice. I had to climb out form under my bike, pick it up and limp home. I healed up without much effort. The only happy juice my bike will get is me putting in the work.
The guy that hit me and his family are so relieved that I refused to press charges or ask them to pay for damages. I am glad I could give them that. Life for them is tough enough without this.
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Glad you are ok. Great ending to a great story. :beer:
Quote from: biggzed on June 11, 2020, 10:50:07 AM
Do you still have the black FXR pictured in the beginning of this thread?
The blue one came out great. Sorry for the hard get off, but sounds like you are healed and all is going to work out.
Zach
Quote from: turboprop on June 08, 2020, 09:15:16 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on June 08, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
I have to say, when you do a build, you do not fool around!
Having multiple bikes is a critical component of doing builds like this. Not being in a rush to ride it affords me the opportunity to set a goal and move towards it without taking short cuts or skimping.
I hate my bagger, but it is the constant. It is always up, I never tinker with it, heck, I hardly change oil in it. But it is always available to ride.
My other FXR is the red/white Smack-A-Hoe bike. This bike has turned out to be be a brute, but is uber reliable and so much fun to blast around on. Although I have ridden as far as five states away, it is not setup for this type of riding, has no storage capacity and the ergonomics do not support long stretches.
The blue/white Torque-A-Hoe bike is more along the lines of a 1970 hot rod Lincoln. Big block, soft suspension, comfy seats, nice little trunk and comfortable ergonomics. I plan to eventually convert this bike over to FI and may do a fly by wire system with integrated cruise control. Maybe. Have to sort out the gas tank/fuel pump issue first.
I sold black/gold a few months ago to a local friend.
Glad to see you made it through the crash OK, and good on ya!
The bike looks great. Glad you're okay.
Beauty build glad your ok
I received a couple of PM asking about chassis mods to do an FXR conversion. I have never cut a factory FXR frame to do a TC conversion. That being said, while the TC drive train is almost a direct bolt in, there are a couple peripherals that require some 'custom' work.
The top engine mount where it interfaces with the coil will have to be addressed as the Evo and TC coils mount very differently. I made a small run of them from .250" stainless. The picture below shows the evo mount, the proof of concept, the un-bent cutouts and a finished unit.
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The other area of the chassis that requires attention is the right side foot peg mount. In its unmodified form, the mount is very close to the lower/right trans to engine mounting bolt. The fix is to simply grind until there is enough clearance for the engine to shake and to lower the front engine mount. Pics below are of the modified mounting bracket.
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Is there a viable alternative to the coil mount?
Quote from: HighLiner on June 22, 2020, 02:11:15 PM
Is there a viable alternative to the coil mount?
There always is and I am sure someone will come along to tell me that their way is much better. IMO, the 'better' way is always a compromise of some sort.
For me, I wanted to use a standard off the shelf oem style twin cam coil and mount it in the same position as the evo coil. I searched for an off the shelf solution, both oem and aftermarket, but could not find anything close.
Some details I left out of the post about the coil mounts. The proof of concept involved cutting and welding an factory style evo mount. The first article was cut out using a plasma cutter, to include the various mounting holes and slots. The production units were cut out using a plasma cutter and then had the various holes and slots done on a bridgeport. The mounting hole for the top link was reamed for a precise fit. The drawing will be revised if/when I decide to do another run. The Rev-1 will include a nut welded to the underside for the bolt that attaches the link and it will have a #10 threaded hole to secure the connector for the electronic compression releases.
Here is a picture of the top mount with the oem twin cam style coil. The Deutsch 2-pin connector for the electric compression releases can be seen lying on top of the mount.
This picture reminds me of another area that requires 'custom'. Notice how the coil is centered on the mount but the coil outputs are offset. This required a set of unequal length wires. The physical dimensions of the outputs are also different than those of the evo style coil. I special ordered these from Magnacore and think the rear wire is 2.5" longer than the front wire.
No hacks allowed in my garage.
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Thanks for sharing your modifications and photos. Very useful information.
Received a PM asking about the primary drive. Here are the details:
Exterior
-'94 and up FXR inner primary. OEM
- Late model TC five speed outer primary cover. This one has the drain plug with the o-ring, not the tapered plug.
- OEM five hole derby cover
- Vulcan Engineering billet inspection cover
- Aluminum shift tube with bushings honed for close fit to shift lever.
- Aftermarket shift lever
- ARP 12pt hardware.
- Powder coated in black diamond
- Shims on the shift shaft between the lever and the tube to reduce lateral movement.
- Dedicated case vent.
Interior
- Vulcan Eng solid front sprocket, 25t
- Evo Industries '98 up basket
- OEM clutch hub
- Barnett carbon fiber, extra plate clutch pack
- AIM billet pressure plate, w/ VPC-94 and lightest spring I had on hand.
- Tsubaki chain
- Evo Ind ring and pinion, 10/84
- Bandit solid shoe
- Syhthetic ATF fluid
- Cometic gaskets and seals
- S&S bearing race
- C1 bearing in clutch hub
- Heavy duty clutch pushrod with hardened ends.
- Threaded holes around perimeter of the inner case have been fitted with time certs. Gasket flange has been lapped flat on both inner and out covers.
I think this is just about everything.
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Are you running a 1" belt ? I looked thru this thread a few times but may have missed that detail on this little phone screen.
Is it a direct swap from fxr swingarm to the touring swingarm as far as belt length?
Quote from: choseneasy on June 22, 2020, 09:50:36 PM
Are you running a 1" belt ? I looked thru this thread a few times but may have missed that detail on this little phone screen.
Is it a direct swap from fxr swingarm to the touring swingarm as far as belt length?
The blue bike runs a 1.5" wide belt with 136 teeth. Same as most FXRs. Gearing is 32/65 instead of the oem 32/70 that came on most FXRs.
Perfect.
Thank you.
there have been a number of updates to the Long-Range-Missile. I will post pics of some of the other changes, but for now, here are the new auxiliary lights from Baja Designs.
I have been out driving the little 5.25" LED headlight and have been looking around for supplemental lighting. The ADV world is full of manufacturers, resellers and re-labelers for lights. Those guys are somewhat fanatical about having more lights and higher powered lights. I just sort of adapted what they have been doing to one of my FXRS.
I settled on a set of Squadron Pro driving/spot combos from Baja design. I am sure whatever you have is better. Would prefer to not turn my thread into a debate on which lights are better.
https://www.bajadesigns.com/products/Squadron-Pro-LED-Light-Black.asp?fbclid=IwAR2DNje1ox34D8TA_eutj83D5GORS9yqGVeV7BEuoyF-nTlNSeRwdaWOwKI (https://www.bajadesigns.com/products/Squadron-Pro-LED-Light-Black.asp?fbclid=IwAR2DNje1ox34D8TA_eutj83D5GORS9yqGVeV7BEuoyF-nTlNSeRwdaWOwKI)
The lights are mounted to an OEM harley crash bar using a set of mounts from Clearwater Lights.
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Skene Lights makes a pretty neat little controller that allows the lights to run full blast when the main headlight s set to high beam and at reduced power when it is set to low beam. This allows the auxiliary lights to remain on regardless of how the main headlight is set and does not require an additional switch.
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Have you had any issues with oncoming traffic flashing high beams at you?
Those look like they throw some good illumination down the road.
Quote from: Hossamania on March 16, 2021, 12:20:28 PM
Have you had any issues with oncoming traffic flashing high beams at you?
Those look like they throw some good illumination down the road.
Did you look at the link I posted for the controller for Skene?
That controller is programable and allows the connected lights to be run at a lower power level when the headlight is in low beam mode and full blast when set to high beam. This will negate any issues with blinding other drivers in traffic.
Quote from: Hossamania on March 16, 2021, 12:20:28 PM
Have you had any issues with oncoming traffic flashing high beams at you?
Those look like they throw some good illumination down the road.
Follow up to my previous response. I have not had anyone flashing lights at me as I have not had these out on the road. I just have everything mocked up. The crash bar, mounts and brackets are all going to the powder coater to match the rest of the bike, and I have to source 12pt hardware for everything. Again, to match the rest of the bike. And I have to fit the wiring harness, relay, controller to the bike. Not easy on a naked FXR. Not a lot of space for the additional wires let alone the added relay and controller.
I rigged up one of the lights to an old AR-15 style pistol grip and connected it to a car battery. Several of my neighbors were temporarily blinded in their living rooms when I beamed them. Good times. Can't wait to see what they do to me in retaliation.
In response to requests for pics of the entire bike. Here you go. These pics are a few months old and do not show the new detachable sissy bar, GPC steering dampener, crash bar and auxiliary lights. Enjoy.
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The brackets and your mounting design look great. The whole bike is well thought out. Enjoyed the pictures.
Neat little lighting controller!
I am putting a set of driving lights on my BMW R120RT and I may part with the $$ for this controller.
By the way, my lights are better! :potstir: :hyst:
Quote from: PoorUB on March 16, 2021, 04:40:43 PM
Neat little lighting controller!
I am putting a set of driving lights on my BMW R120RT and I may part with the $$ for this controller.
By the way, my lights are better! :potstir: :hyst:
I think the harley crowd has much to learn from the ADV riders. If I were smart, I would bite the bullet, flush every one of my harleys, the huge parts cache and everything else and just buy a full blown BMW pizza bike. Seriously. But I won't. Too deep into the rabbit hole to get out.
What kind of pattern do the off road lights throw down the road? Do they have a height cut off like road going lights, or are they a "flood style" that has the potential to shine oncoming traffic, even in dim mode? I know many use them, just wondering how they work in traffic. More light is good, especially with my aging eyes. Pretty, but aging.....
Quote from: turboprop on March 17, 2021, 03:25:37 AM
Quote from: PoorUB on March 16, 2021, 04:40:43 PM
Neat little lighting controller!
I am putting a set of driving lights on my BMW R120RT and I may part with the $$ for this controller.
By the way, my lights are better! :potstir: :hyst:
I think the harley crowd has much to learn from the ADV riders. If I were smart, I would bite the bullet, flush every one of my harleys, the huge parts cache and everything else and just buy a full blown BMW pizza bike. Seriously. But I won't. Too deep into the rabbit hole to get out.
I'm getting out. 16 years on Harleys and a couple hundred thousand miles. Fine bikes, I enjoyed them but I miss the performance other brands provide out of the box. I might get weak and buy in again.
Very Nice stable full of Bikes there. Enjoy!
Quote from: Fugawee on March 18, 2021, 09:21:07 AM
Very Nice stable full of Bikes there. Enjoy!
Thank you. I hate the bagger, but the big block FXRs are a lot of fun. Each one is built for a different purpose.
Thanks for the pics. That bike is outstanding, although you black/gold one is my favorite.
Those light are popular with the 4WD Overlanding crew as well. Nice choice.
Zach
Quote from: biggzed on April 08, 2021, 10:10:22 AM
Thanks for the pics. That bike is outstanding, although you black/gold one is my favorite.
Those light are popular with the 4WD Overlanding crew as well. Nice choice.
Zach
Thank you for the kind words. I sold the black and gold FXR to a local here last year. He had to have it and came with a pretty big pile. Everything is for sale. I saw him a few weeks ago, said he was planning to convert it to fuel injection, lower the compression (currently 12:1) and add a turbo. Wants to be in the 250 club.
Quote from: turboprop on April 09, 2021, 09:04:32 AM
Quote from: biggzed on April 08, 2021, 10:10:22 AM
Thanks for the pics. That bike is outstanding, although you black/gold one is my favorite.
Those light are popular with the 4WD Overlanding crew as well. Nice choice.
Zach
Thank you for the kind words. I sold the black and gold FXR to a local here last year. He had to have it and came with a pretty big pile. Everything is for sale. I saw him a few weeks ago, said he was planning to convert it to fuel injection, lower the compression (currently 12:1) and add a turbo. Wants to be in the 250 club.
You and your friends have way too much fun!
Quote from: turboprop on March 17, 2021, 03:25:37 AM
I think the harley crowd has much to learn from the ADV riders. If I were smart, I would bite the bullet, flush every one of my harleys, the huge parts cache and everything else and just buy a full blown BMW pizza bike. Seriously. But I won't. Too deep into the rabbit hole to get out.
I like the look of the new BMW R18..... if I had the cash I'd do it.
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Quote from: turboprop on April 09, 2021, 09:04:32 AM
Quote from: biggzed on April 08, 2021, 10:10:22 AM
Thanks for the pics. That bike is outstanding, although you black/gold one is my favorite.
Those light are popular with the 4WD Overlanding crew as well. Nice choice.
Zach
Thank you for the kind words. I sold the black and gold FXR to a local here last year. He had to have it and came with a pretty big pile. Everything is for sale. I saw him a few weeks ago, said he was planning to convert it to fuel injection, lower the compression (currently 12:1) and add a turbo. Wants to be in the 250 club.
You and your friends have way too much fun!
If it were easy, everyone would be doing it. <smile>
I am finally at the point where I am done building my FXRs and am really enjoying being able to open the garage door and jump on either bike without having do any pre or post op stuff. Simply gas oil and ride.
The red/white bike is uncomfortable, but is cranking 160 HP, has race grade brakes, as good a suspension as can be leveraged against a harley and is pretty reliable. The blue/white bike has proven to be a lot of fun and has taken its place as my daily driver. It also has a TC124 but has a build that would typically found in a heavy bagger. The massive torque in the light FXR with cop bags, sport fairing and higher handle bars is a really fun ride.
I hate baggers but am now at a point where I could either do something with mine or buy a new shark nose. I am probably going to build a low compression 124, put a turbo on it and possibly a six speed. The current bagger line does not impress me. Cool paint - dont care. Big iPad sized display - hate it. New style compensator - dont want the annoyance. Larger diameter fork tubes - seriously thinking updating to the current 49mm setup with some internals from Ohlins. The rest of the new bagger stuff - fluff as far as I am concerned.
Very nice work turboprop. :up:
A while back, like maybe 5 years, PoorUB had a thread on adding small "imported" LED lights down on the lower sliders by fabbing aluminum plates that mount to the caliper mounting bolts. I did that to both my Dyna & Geezer Glide. With the lights being that low there just isn't glare into oncoming traffic. Also the movement of the slider gives a "HEY LOOK UP IDIOT" message. The bikes "cool" factor is diminished but ICCL. It is nice to mimic a BNSF locomotive light wise.
The only issue I had was when I did this for a buddy on his Kawi Vulcan at time he had the aux lights alternating flashing. I would have added load equalizers this winter but he has since died.
Quote from: PoorUB on March 16, 2021, 04:40:43 PM
Neat little lighting controller!
I am putting a set of driving lights on my BMW R120RT and I may part with the $$ for this controller.
By the way, my lights are better! :potstir: :hyst:
Quote from: BJB on April 13, 2021, 09:16:52 AM
Very nice work turboprop. :up:
A while back, like maybe 5 years, PoorUB had a thread on adding small "imported" LED lights down on the lower sliders by fabbing aluminum plates that mount to the caliper mounting bolts. I did that to both my Dyna & Geezer Glide. With the lights being that low there just isn't glare into oncoming traffic. Also the movement of the slider gives a "HEY LOOK UP IDIOT" message. The bikes "cool" factor is diminished but ICCL. It is nice to mimic a BNSF locomotive light wise.
The only issue I had was when I did this for a buddy on his Kawi Vulcan at time he had the aux lights alternating flashing. I would have added load equalizers this winter but he has since died.
Quote from: PoorUB on March 16, 2021, 04:40:43 PM
Neat little lighting controller!
I am putting a set of driving lights on my BMW R120RT and I may part with the $$ for this controller.
By the way, my lights are better! :potstir: :hyst:
Thank you for the kind words. Sometimes I think my work is lost on the bagger centric crowd that seems to be the majority here. I think your remark about lack of glare from a lower mounting position is interesting. I have never run anything like this, nor do I know anyone that has run anything like this, at least not on a harley. In my limited experience with off road vehicles, it seemed a higher mounting position provided better/more lighting. My friends and I have joked about mounting one fo these lights on the rear of the bike for tailgaters.
I have done something that I never thought I would do- put a cop fairing on one of my FXRs. Placed the order a couple weeks ago for a high quality reproduction unit. No way am I going to pay tourist prices for a thirty year old piece of ABS with cracks, holes and brittle material.
Like everything, I have scrutinized every component and will be piecing together a best practices so to speak. Most owners of FXR cop fairings will typically have some sort of LED 7" headlight in the oem recess of the fairing. The Moons Flyeye is popular. Naturally, I am doing something a little more.
Baja Designs LP6 Pro off road light combined with a Skene Motorcycle Dimmer. The light provides over 10k lumens and the controller/dimmer will provide reduced voltage when the handlebar switch is set to low beam. Thus allowing this monster light to function as a standard high/low beam headlight. Salty Motorworks makes a pretty cool kit to instal the LP6 light in place of the standard harley 7" bucket and light.
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You getting your fairing from Joe?
Looking forward to reading about & seeing your new fairing and lightning set up.
Any updates yet?
I am still waiting on the fairing turn signals to arrive from Elvis and the LP6 light from Baja Designs is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. The fairing and mounting brackets from JD are sitting in my man room. Still have not made a decision on the windshield. Klockworks - Clearview. Every day I swing in the other direction and height is still up in the air as well. As usual, I am not sure about the light pods or gauge pods. I would like to mount a set of Squadron Pro floods in the pods but they have a smaller OD than th oem 4" lights. I may end up drawing a split collar type adapter and machine them out of black delrin. Also debating on the gauge pods. In oem form they are two gauges per pillar. I would like to have illuminated oil pressure and AFR gauges up there. Not sure I need or could use int he other two spots, perhaps a volts and oil pressure. Seems like this would be a little cluttered and not really provide that much value. I dont know. I will probably end up sourcing a set of pods and a compliment of gauges from AutoMeter just to see how it looks.
I am pretty excited about the lights (sounds gay as ever), but the bike currently has a 5" harley Daymaker light (weak sauce) and a set of Baja Design Squadron Pro Combos mounted down low on the highway bar. With these low mounted lights turned on, the headlight is useless and unnoticeable. The high-low beam switch does not produce any noticeable change in the illumination. My goal is to have the large LP6 in the oem position in the fairing a set of Squadron Pro combos in the light pods and a set of Squadron Pro flood lights w/amber lenses on the crash bar. I plan to wire these so that all three light systems are independently controlled.
Seems to me that lighting is like crack, once someone has experienced it they just want more. As ridiculous as I think the ADV crowd looks riding around in their hockey gear, they are onto something with their lights.
A good, and funny!, post.
Obviously speakers go in any un-used gauge pod spot. Have you not been keeping up with the bagger crowd?
Zach
Quote from: turboprop on July 08, 2021, 08:15:31 AM
I am still waiting on the fairing turn signals to arrive from Elvis and the LP6 light from Baja Designs is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. The fairing and mounting brackets from JD are sitting in my man room. Still have not made a decision on the windshield. Klockworks - Clearview. Every day I swing in the other direction and height is still up in the air as well. As usual, I am not sure about the light pods or gauge pods. I would like to mount a set of Squadron Pro floods in the pods but they have a smaller OD than th oem 4" lights. I may end up drawing a split collar type adapter and machine them out of black delrin. Also debating on the gauge pods. In oem form they are two gauges per pillar. I would like to have illuminated oil pressure and AFR gauges up there. Not sure I need or could use int he other two spots, perhaps a volts and oil pressure. Seems like this would be a little cluttered and not really provide that much value. I dont know. I will probably end up sourcing a set of pods and a compliment of gauges from AutoMeter just to see how it looks.
I am pretty excited about the lights (sounds gay as ever), but the bike currently has a 5" harley Daymaker light (weak sauce) and a set of Baja Design Squadron Pro Combos mounted down low on the highway bar. With these low mounted lights turned on, the headlight is useless and unnoticeable. The high-low beam switch does not produce any noticeable change in the illumination. My goal is to have the large LP6 in the oem position in the fairing a set of Squadron Pro combos in the light pods and a set of Squadron Pro flood lights w/amber lenses on the crash bar. I plan to wire these so that all three light systems are independently controlled.
Seems to me that lighting is like crack, once someone has experienced it they just want more. As ridiculous as I think the ADV crowd looks riding around in their hockey gear, they are onto something with their lights.
Quote from: biggzed on July 09, 2021, 10:26:17 AM
Obviously speakers go in any un-used gauge pod spot. Have you not been keeping up with the bagger crowd?
Zach
Quote from: turboprop on July 08, 2021, 08:15:31 AM
I am still waiting on the fairing turn signals to arrive from Elvis and the LP6 light from Baja Designs is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. The fairing and mounting brackets from JD are sitting in my man room. Still have not made a decision on the windshield. Klockworks - Clearview. Every day I swing in the other direction and height is still up in the air as well. As usual, I am not sure about the light pods or gauge pods. I would like to mount a set of Squadron Pro floods in the pods but they have a smaller OD than th oem 4" lights. I may end up drawing a split collar type adapter and machine them out of black delrin. Also debating on the gauge pods. In oem form they are two gauges per pillar. I would like to have illuminated oil pressure and AFR gauges up there. Not sure I need or could use int he other two spots, perhaps a volts and oil pressure. Seems like this would be a little cluttered and not really provide that much value. I dont know. I will probably end up sourcing a set of pods and a compliment of gauges from AutoMeter just to see how it looks.
I am pretty excited about the lights (sounds gay as ever), but the bike currently has a 5" harley Daymaker light (weak sauce) and a set of Baja Design Squadron Pro Combos mounted down low on the highway bar. With these low mounted lights turned on, the headlight is useless and unnoticeable. The high-low beam switch does not produce any noticeable change in the illumination. My goal is to have the large LP6 in the oem position in the fairing a set of Squadron Pro combos in the light pods and a set of Squadron Pro flood lights w/amber lenses on the crash bar. I plan to wire these so that all three light systems are independently controlled.
Seems to me that lighting is like crack, once someone has experienced it they just want more. As ridiculous as I think the ADV crowd looks riding around in their hockey gear, they are onto something with their lights.
That bunch is even sillier than the ADV crowd.
Something I said I would never do, put a fairing on one of my FXRs. I suck. The fairing and mounting brackets are reproductions from JD Fabrications, the headlight is from Baja design. Still a bit of work to do but have ridden it around a couple nights like this. The LP6 headlight with over 10k lumens is a game changer. Unlike typical off-road lights, this one has separate inputs for high and low that work very well. The high beam is powerful enough to drop birds out of flight and give people in oncoming vehicles mild sunburns.
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Hmmmm ..... Leaning towards a new FXR adventure bike series. :teeth:
A Fairing and a Luggage Rack Ed ? LOL , looking good man , is the JD Fairing ABS or Fiberglass ?
Quote from: hbkeith on November 08, 2021, 11:44:16 AMA Fairing and a Luggage Rack Ed ? LOL , looking good man , is the JD Fairing ABS or Fiberglass ?
Fiberglass.
Quote from: hbkeith on November 08, 2021, 11:44:16 AMA Fairing and a Luggage Rack Ed ? LOL , looking good man , is the JD Fairing ABS or Fiberglass ?
Next I plan to discuss twin cam lifters over and over again. Will probably start half a dozen different threads that all say/ask the same thing.
Seeing(hah) as I'm blind as a bat I am taking a great interest in this lighting.
I like it Ed. A lot.
Oh and please do start a lifter thread.
:hyst:
Quote from: tommy g on November 09, 2021, 08:20:12 PMSeeing(hah) as I'm blind as a bat I am taking a great interest in this lighting.
I have been riding the bike for over a week with the new headlight and am surprised by it's performance. The naysayers all said right from the start that this was a bad idea, should not be done, unsafe, was going to blind other drivers, the bike's charging system couldn't handle the load, world hunger would increase, etc, etc. Unfortunately, very few naysayers have actually done anything.
BLUF:
The low beam light pattern and out put is perfect. Doesn't blind anyone, either oncoming vehicles or vehicles in front of mine. Not an issue. The peripheral lighting (corners) is better than anything I have ever experienced on a motorcycle and the cutoff is crisp and well defined.
The high beam pattern is brutal. I will not be able to outdrive this light, even on the darkest roads pushing my red bike with reckless abandon. I am certain this light has blinded some animals and fried many insects while in flight. I plan to mount one of these on my red bike as well.
End goal:
I plan to mount another set of Baja Design Squadron Pro lights inside a set of FXRP light pods. This will result in a total of four Sq Pro lights and on LP6 light. The LP6 will keep it's current combo lens (driving/spot), but the Sq Pro lights will be configured a bit differently. The lights installed on the highway bars will have their current combo lenses replaced with driving lenses. The lights going in the light pods with have spot lenses.
The lights on the highway bar will be activated by the low-beam circuit of the oem handle bar switch. The lights in the pods will be activated by the high-beam circuit of the oem handle bar switch.
To mak all of this work, with full current at the connectors on the lights will require a couple of relays, a controller and heavy gauge wiring. Individual relays will control power to the low and high beam inputs to the main headlight. Separate controllers will will provide programable step down power to the lights on the highway bar and the pods. All five lights will be illuminated regardless of the low/high beam switch position.
I also plan to try amber driving lenses on the lights on the highway bar. The lights in the pod will not have a lot of adjustability for their aim. The orientation of the pods can be manipulated a little to control vertical aim but the horizontal is somewhat fixed. The lights on the bar are completely adjustable for horizontal and vertical aim and may end up being oriented somewhat outward.
Lights for Pods (https://www.bajadesigns.com/products/squadron-r-pro-led-wide-cornering.asp)
Light Pods (https://jdcustomsandfabrications.bigcartel.com/product/fxrt-passing-light-pods)
Light Controller (https://www.skenelights.com/installation-iq-275)
Bike looks good. Do you have an opinion on the fairing as far as quality? Im thinking about fitting one to an M8 RK
Quote from: Jonny Cash on November 15, 2021, 07:57:57 AMBike looks good. Do you have an opinion on the fairing as far as quality? Im thinking about fitting one to an M8 RK
I looked extensively at every reproduction FXRP fairing currently on the market. Not simply looking at bs online but looking at them up close talking with the owners that installed them their bikes, etc. I chose JD without any regard to cost.
Quote from: turboprop on November 15, 2021, 08:25:24 AMQuote from: Jonny Cash on November 15, 2021, 07:57:57 AMBike looks good. Do you have an opinion on the fairing as far as quality? Im thinking about fitting one to an M8 RK
I looked extensively at every reproduction FXRP fairing currently on the market. Not simply looking at bs online but looking at them up close talking with the owners that installed them their bikes, etc. I chose JD without any regard to cost.
Thanks!!! Thats what I was looking for! You look at things the same way I do
Those Squadron Pros are the business. My Beemer came with a set of Clearwater Darla's mounted in the stock location (down low below the floorboard). They are impressive at night. The Squadron's are a couple thousand more lumens. Would love to see the light output on that bike. Well done.
Zach
Quote from: turboprop on November 14, 2021, 07:31:21 AMQuote from: tommy g on November 09, 2021, 08:20:12 PMSeeing(hah) as I'm blind as a bat I am taking a great interest in this lighting.
I have been riding the bike for over a week with the new headlight and am surprised by it's performance. The naysayers all said right from the start that this was a bad idea, should not be done, unsafe, was going to blind other drivers, the bike's charging system couldn't handle the load, world hunger would increase, etc, etc. Unfortunately, very few naysayers have actually done anything.
BLUF:
The low beam light pattern and out put is perfect. Doesn't blind anyone, either oncoming vehicles or vehicles in front of mine. Not an issue. The peripheral lighting (corners) is better than anything I have ever experienced on a motorcycle and the cutoff is crisp and well defined.
The high beam pattern is brutal. I will not be able to outdrive this light, even on the darkest roads pushing my red bike with reckless abandon. I am certain this light has blinded some animals and fried many insects while in flight. I plan to mount one of these on my red bike as well.
End goal:
I plan to mount another set of Baja Design Squadron Pro lights inside a set of FXRP light pods. This will result in a total of four Sq Pro lights and on LP6 light. The LP6 will keep it's current combo lens (driving/spot), but the Sq Pro lights will be configured a bit differently. The lights installed on the highway bars will have their current combo lenses replaced with driving lenses. The lights going in the light pods with have spot lenses.
The lights on the highway bar will be activated by the low-beam circuit of the oem handle bar switch. The lights in the pods will be activated by the high-beam circuit of the oem handle bar switch.
To mak all of this work, with full current at the connectors on the lights will require a couple of relays, a controller and heavy gauge wiring. Individual relays will control power to the low and high beam inputs to the main headlight. Separate controllers will will provide programable step down power to the lights on the highway bar and the pods. All five lights will be illuminated regardless of the low/high beam switch position.
I also plan to try amber driving lenses on the lights on the highway bar. The lights in the pod will not have a lot of adjustability for their aim. The orientation of the pods can be manipulated a little to control vertical aim but the horizontal is somewhat fixed. The lights on the bar are completely adjustable for horizontal and vertical aim and may end up being oriented somewhat outward.
Lights for Pods (https://www.bajadesigns.com/products/squadron-r-pro-led-wide-cornering.asp)
Light Pods (https://jdcustomsandfabrications.bigcartel.com/product/fxrt-passing-light-pods)
Light Controller (https://www.skenelights.com/installation-iq-275)
"I chose JD without any regard to cost."
He is a stand up individual also. Met him in Sturgis this year, took time out to answer my questions and showed me some new stuff they try out on their bikes before coming to market. Judging by the bugs on his bike, no trailer queen. I run his bags, fairing and lowers, and my painter, who has seen it all, has high regards for the quality.
I am paying close attention and very much appreciate turboprop passing on this hard won research. I live and ride in a land of critters, June, July and part of Aug daylight remains until after my bedtime, after that the dark cuts into our riding time so this is well recieved.
PS, my girl is from Dixie living with me in the frozen North.
Minor update. I am living temporarily at my beach house and am only back at my main house on weekends, so I do not really have a lot of time to ride the FXRs or do a lot of tinkering.
That being said, this weekend I finished up a temporary adapter harness to connect the LP6 headlight to the dual relays and the Skeene controller for the Squadron Pro's mounted on the highway bar.
Everything from the battery, through the relays to both circuits of the LP6 main headlight is wired with 12 gauge wire. The controller for the Squadron's is wired in with 14 gauge wire. The controller is programmed to provide 40% power to the Squadron's when the handlebar switch is set to low beam and 100% power when the handlebar switch is set to hight beam.
This setup works very well. When set to low beam, very few cars is any flash their high beams at me. My wife reports that with me riding behind her car at night the low beam lights are not anymore annoying than a newer truck would be behind her.
High beam is brutal. Seriously. In the interest of science, I blasted a couple oncoming cars at a stop sign. The results were somewhat comical but mean. The people in the oncoming vehicles were severly illuminated.
I have ordered clear and amber driving lenses to replace the combo lenses on the Squadrons' and will probably play around with their vertical and horizontal aim. I suspect that I will end up with a set of clear Squadrons with driving lenses in the pods on the fairing that are triggered by the existing Skeene controller with the Squadrons on the highway bar having amber driving lenses and a separate controller. I want to experiment with turning off the headlight and the light pods and burning only the amber lights mounted low on the highway bars. Curious to see how this works in fog and rain.
Been running a set of cheap amber Amazon 4.5" LED Cree's in the passing lamp buckets of my bike for some years now, though technically ambers are recommended for low position as a fog lamp I was looking for something that would make me stand out and be noticed these are pretty bright even in daylight and seemed to be working pretty well until this past Halloween.
Still I think they make a difference in your visibility to others as long as the other guys at least attempt to look your way and I'll keep running them.
Lots of good info here as usual, thanks Turboprop.
Mike
Well, it doesn't happen very often but I am officially stumped.
Torque-A-Hoe runs perfect. Seriously. But it drips oil constantly. The oil is coming from the headhunts. I am not talking about a little spot, I wish. After riding the bike and parking it, there will be several very large oil spots directly under the left side frame rail. Apparently, a lot f oil is coming out of the head vents, going through the vent line (heads are T'd into one line) and then blowing all over the underside of the bike.
Now for the fun. This is a recent development. For the last two years there has never been a drop under the bike. Nothing has been changed. The oil tank is not overfilled. As of last night, both cylinders crank at 195 Lbs and have three percent leak down.
I suspect the issue is with the internal breathers but have not isolated which head is blowing the excessive oil.
Has anyone reading this ever encountered symptoms like these and what was the cause?
Quote from: turboprop on April 20, 2022, 10:26:23 AMWell, it doesn't happen very often but I am officially stumped.
Torque-A-Hoe runs perfect. Seriously. But it drips oil constantly. The oil is coming from the headhunts. I am not talking about a little spot, I wish. After riding the bike and parking it, there will be several very large oil spots directly under the left side frame rail. Apparently, a lot f oil is coming out of the head vents, going through the vent line (heads are T'd into one line) and then blowing all over the underside of the bike.
Now for the fun. This is a recent development. For the last two years there has never been a drop under the bike. Nothing has been changed. The oil tank is not overfilled. As of last night, both cylinders crank at 195 Lbs and have three percent leak down.
I suspect the issue is with the internal breathers but have not isolated which head is blowing the excessive oil.
Has anyone reading this ever encountered symptoms like these and what was the cause?
A temporary 2 into 2 setup for the head vents would give an answer and simplify the troubleshooting.
Quote from: turboprop on April 20, 2022, 10:26:23 AMWell, it doesn't happen very often but I am officially stumped.
Torque-A-Hoe runs perfect. Seriously. But it drips oil constantly. The oil is coming from the headhunts. I am not talking about a little spot, I wish. After riding the bike and parking it, there will be several very large oil spots directly under the left side frame rail. Apparently, a lot f oil is coming out of the head vents, going through the vent line (heads are T'd into one line) and then blowing all over the underside of the bike.
Now for the fun. This is a recent development. For the last two years there has never been a drop under the bike. Nothing has been changed. The oil tank is not overfilled. As of last night, both cylinders crank at 195 Lbs and have three percent leak down.
I suspect the issue is with the internal breathers but have not isolated which head is blowing the excessive oil.
Has anyone reading this ever encountered symptoms like these and what was the cause?
Can't help with having had this happen. But if you haven't yet, place a hose on one head at a time and see if you can blow past the breather valve. I agree it's most likely a problem with one of the flaps. If you can localize the issue to one head, it may be faster if you're just looking for a repair.
Might be a good time to try the Vulcan breathers if the OEM parts failed.
Lifters are easy. Johnson Hylifts. 2313SE. I wouldn't run anything else. Bigger reservoir, stiffer spring. Cheaper than all the premium lifters out there too.
Stock breather (umbrella) valves are adequate at best...in stock engines.The bigger the bore and higher the rpm you run the worse they are. They let air back in on upstroke and this builds crankcase pressure. The heat from the heads make them less pliable over time and they don't seal well
I recently found a good reed valve used in BMW and Norton twins.I'm running them off the hose barbs for an external breather kit with a short piece of hose first. Once my rings seated on the dyno, not another drop. Umbrellas are removed altogether. Keeps a slight vacuum which also improves ring seal and head drainage.
Intended as a case mount but available in this inline version as well. Reed valves are just superior one way breather valves.
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Quote from: 60Gunner on April 21, 2022, 04:29:10 PMLifters are easy. Johnson Hylifts. 2313SE. I wouldn't run anything else. Bigger reservoir, stiffer spring. Cheaper than all the premium lifters out there too.
Stock breather (umbrella) valves are adequate at best...in stock engines.The bigger the bore and higher the rpm you run the worse they are. They let air back in on upstroke and this builds crankcase pressure. The heat from the heads make them less pliable over time and they don't seal well
I recently found a good reed valve used in BMW and Norton twins.I'm running them off the hose barbs for an external breather kit with a short piece of hose first. Once my rings seated on the dyno, not another drop. Umbrellas are removed altogether. Keeps a slight vacuum which also improves ring seal and head drainage.
Intended as a case mount but available in this inline version as well. Reed valves are just superior one way breather valves.
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I am not going to piss in your corn flakes, but this is the funniest post I have seen all week.
If you have humped a pig as your screen names suggests, you should be able to decipher this: 18E4VW8
A thought just occurred. This motor has HD heads, did you open up the drain holes in the rocker arm support plate under the breather? Generally I open these to 0.125".
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Quote from: Ohio HD on April 25, 2022, 11:00:07 PMA thought just occurred. This motor has HD heads, did you open up the drain holes in the rocker arm support plate under the breather? Generally I open these to 0.125".
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I did.
Update: Since my last post I have isolated the head vents and pinpointed the rear head as the major source of oil. Anyone that has ever removed a rear head from an FXR knows how much fun it is. The added height of the TC 124 makes the job extra fun. Will probably pull the rocker cover this weekend to have a look.
Update on the Long Range Missile:
I have been prepping it over the winter for the ride to the FXR Jam this summer. Instead of it being a few hours away here in Dixie it will be way up north and will probably take a leisurely two or three days to make the trip each way. So, tour pack, fairing, new Commander III tires, Baja Design headlight and driving lights, and probably a few others that I missed. Paint for the new pieces will have to wait until winter.
Most that know me, know how much I like my bagger. HATE IT. This bike is pretty much a bagger as well but there is really no comparison between the two bikes. I plan to convert blue to Delphi fuel injection, maybe over this coming winter. Not looking forward to cutting the frame.
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I like it as is! Kind of an industrial, "lets go kill zombies" vibe. Got a place to mount a Barrett?
What was the culprit in the crank vent system?
Quote from: Ohio HD on April 30, 2022, 04:25:33 PMWhat was the culprit in the crank vent system?
I have isolated the source of the oil to the rear cylinder but have not pulled the rocker box yet.
Just so you know, I minored in procrastination and am certified as a lean six sigma procrastinator. I think my company even addresses this in our four-volume quality manual.
Quote from: turboprop on April 30, 2022, 04:38:49 PMQuote from: Ohio HD on April 30, 2022, 04:25:33 PMWhat was the culprit in the crank vent system?
I have isolated the source of the oil to the rear cylinder but have not pulled the rocker box yet.
Just so you know, I minored in procrastination and am certified as a lean six sigma procrastinator. I think my company even addresses this in our four-volume quality manual.
Well understood. Been known to drag my feet and change directions in a moments notice myself.
Hope the tour pack is small enough to not affect low speed handling. The cut down ones on baggers aren't that bad, the but the higher ones were IME. Bike looks very road worthy, safe travels.
Quote from: Deye76 on May 01, 2022, 06:43:30 AMHope the tour pack is small enough to not affect low speed handling. The cut down ones on baggers aren't that bad, the but the higher ones were IME. Bike looks very road worthy, safe travels.
I share your concerns and the quick detach mounts are some what of a dual edge sword. Yes, they allow the bar and tour pack to be easily removed and installed, but they also raise the tour pack a couple inches higher. The plan for the Jam is to remove it as soon as I can access my room and reinstall just prior to leaving. I am also playing with the idea of having a couple sets of side plates that are configured differently. Perhaps one with a tour pack and anther with a simple low bar w/pad. Will see.
FWIW I rarely use the tour pac on my RGU. It's on a quick release for those times. I always have a quick release rack on behind the seat. I found if I head out over night it's way easier to just strap an over night bag on and go plus it's handy for those trips to the store etc..
Quote from: kd on May 01, 2022, 10:54:01 AMFWIW I rarely use the tour pac on my RGU. It's on a quick release for those times. I always have a quick release rack on behind the seat. I found if I head out over night it's way easier to just strap an over night bag on and go plus it's handy for those trips to the store etc..
I don't think it is possible for my wife ride my bike without bringing a giant purse and now that she has been spoiled by the bagger, well you know how this goes. Notice the rear floor boards from a newer bagger.
:hyst: Good for you for not selfishly thinking only about yourself. Now a back rest allows you to get on it and not losing her when she's on the back. That's kinda what I call serving both masters. Its the only way my wife will get on with me now. :nix:
Quote from: rigidthumper on April 30, 2022, 04:06:41 PMI like it as is! Kind of an industrial, "lets go kill zombies" vibe. Got a place to mount a Barrett?
I'm thinking the 50 Browning Machine Gun can go between the saddlebag and tourpak. The saddlebag can double as the feed can for the linked M2 Incindiary rounds. :koolaid:
Quote from: turboprop on April 30, 2022, 02:36:26 PMUpdate on the Long Range Missile:
I have been prepping it over the winter for the ride to the FXR Jam this summer. Instead of it being a few hours away here in Dixie it will be way up north and will probably take a leisurely two or three days to make the trip each way. So, tour pack, fairing, new Commander III tires, Baja Design headlight and driving lights, and probably a few others that I missed. Paint for the new pieces will have to wait until winter.
Most that know me, know how much I like my bagger. HATE IT. This bike is pretty much a bagger as well but there is really no comparison between the two bikes. I plan to convert blue to Delphi fuel injection, maybe over this coming winter. Not looking forward to cutting the frame.
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This is pinnacle FXR stuff. Love everything about it Ed.
Very nice build!
Thank you. It is a work in progress.
Still sorting various features for the fairing, tour pack and lowers. Also collecting stuff to convert it from carb to delphi fuel injection. Plan is to do a new paint job once the various issues are sorted out and then repaint everything to include carb and FI gas tanks, as well as the RP, sport and DX fairings.
I also plan to switch to floor boards for the driver along with a new quiet pipe from RB Racing. These bikes are never really finished.
Update.
Have received a bunch of PMs and calls about the current status of the Long-Range Missile.
Current status:
1. A repo tour pack and RP fairing have been fitted along with the necessary accoutrements.
2. The heads were removed to be machined for vents separate from the carb mounting holes.
3. The Axtell cylinders with ductile liners look terrific, but are being sent out to be powder coated without highlighting the edges.
4. The cylinders are going to be honed to .005" over and the existing pistons will be treated by Line2Line.
5. I have procured a complete set of OEM driver floor boards and associated controls in excellent condition. They are being sent to be powder coated black.
6. I plan to place an order with RB Racing for a custom black pipe with 2" head pipes for use on an FXR with floorboards. Have not decided between the LSR or the Black Hole.
7. The Baja Designs LP6 headlight is amazing but does not fit under the cover so is being replaced by a Hella reflector and bulb. The LP6 will probably end up the red/white FXR.
Hopefully this answers the mail for everyone.
Isn't this bike the one that had issues with the compression releases? Are you doing anything different this time?
I thought it was a compression release, but it wasn't. I was looking at changing to S&S EZ Start cams but they don't have a grind that aligns with how this engine is configured.
Not making any root changes right now. Going to reconfigure the head vents and changing exhausts required by the new floor boards and doing away with the highlighted fins on the cylinders.
The new pipe and powder coated cylinders gets this bike pretty close to being completely blackened out. I think the only pieces on this bike that are not powder coated with black diamond or painted Shelby Blue are the fork tubes, gas cap, trim rings on gauges, and rear turn signals (soon to be replaced with FL type turn signals).