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Dyno & Tuning Zone => AFR & Tuning Zone => Topic started by: N-gin on October 15, 2018, 06:19:42 PM

Title: ACR tune
Post by: N-gin on October 15, 2018, 06:19:42 PM
In order for the Compression releases to operate do you need a tune that supports ACRs or just make sure you turn it on when flashing the tune to the bike?

They are not operating. This is a new build so tomorrow I'll go over the wiring.
I may just hook it up like SS does.
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: Coyote on October 15, 2018, 08:01:41 PM
The tune and ecm must support it. But I would think if the option is available,  then the tune supports it.
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: Don D on October 16, 2018, 04:36:05 AM
They must be turned on in the software
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: N-gin on October 17, 2018, 02:47:50 AM
I think I may have found the issue. I get power to the releases for 2 seconds when I turn the ignition on. So evidently I wired them wrong.. must have had one too many that night.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: 1FSTRK on October 17, 2018, 03:59:41 AM
What year/model bike? Some of the strategies cycle the ACR once at key on.
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: rigidthumper on October 17, 2018, 06:33:17 AM
That's right- ACRs are powered by the system relay ( as well as the fuel pump and coil). ECM uses grounds to control the activation, so verify you attached the other pin to the ECM at the right point (should be pin 15 on an 09 Dyna)
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: Don D on October 17, 2018, 06:51:39 AM
Are ACRs toggled on by default in the program?
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: rigidthumper on October 17, 2018, 07:15:28 AM
No- radio button in the ECM settings.
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: N-gin on October 20, 2018, 05:29:04 AM
ACRs are toggled on
Getting good power, NO ground from computer.
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: 1FSTRK on October 20, 2018, 08:41:34 AM
What is the Part number on your ECM?
What cal number are you using?

I know you are not working on a 2017 but read through this thread
http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=101668.msg1196415#msg1196415 (http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=101668.msg1196415#msg1196415)

You may want to contact TTS to see if they can help.

I also when through this with a friend on his 2011 Softail using PV and finally got an engineer at PV to state that PV cannot turn on the ACR's on that bike regardless of what the cal says, had to go to the dealer and have it done. Now they work with the PV cal even if we toggle them to the off position in the PV software.

Good luck
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: rigidthumper on October 20, 2018, 10:26:01 AM
Which 176 map are you using?
Title: Re: ACR tune
Post by: N-gin on October 20, 2018, 03:05:31 PM
Crank sensor went bad.
Problem fixed...

Now with the crank sensor not a problem I noticed that sometimes when I start it, the engine has a hard time. Like the compression release was intermittent.
I was PMed by ridgethumper and he explained the crank sensor and it roll (this is how I found out the crank sensor was the issue) I took the ACR wire to the fuse box and moved it to the constant power on with ignition. Now compression releases always work, no delay. Starter spins good and fires with no problems...
Thanks for the help guys. Now I've got to get the heat cycles done