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Title: Starter issue
Post by: 1997 fxstc on July 13, 2019, 01:57:56 PM
I cruised through the starter issues with no success.  In short, bikes battery is good voltage and starting amps.  Hitting the starter and it is clicking which is that starter relay and no engagement to start.  Ground wire is good from the relay.  is it safe to say it is a solenoid issue or should I be looking at something else?  Thanks
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: Rugby_fxdwg on July 14, 2019, 04:10:53 AM
I'm having the same issue with my 89 FXRS. Cold starts right up, hot, not even a sound...🙈😭

I really hope you figure it out as I'm following your Lead.
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: 1997 fxstc on July 14, 2019, 04:30:59 AM
Solenoid rebuild time taking the starter out beginning in about 30 minutes.  Fun Sunday...
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: screem on July 14, 2019, 06:14:18 AM
Nice easy straight forward job, good luck,,
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: koko3052 on July 14, 2019, 07:24:35 AM
Quote from: 1997 fxstc on July 14, 2019, 04:30:59 AM
Solenoid rebuild time taking the starter out beginning in about 30 minutes.  Fun Sunday...

Hmmm...where you going to find parts on a sunday...or do you have on hand? :scratch:
You may get by with turning over the rotor or just polishing it up. :up:
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: Burnout on July 15, 2019, 10:08:21 AM
It is easy to use a test light to see if the starter relay is passing power to the solenoid.
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: Dan89flstc on July 15, 2019, 12:57:43 PM
Quote from: Burnout on July 15, 2019, 10:08:21 AM
It is easy to use a test light to see if the starter relay is passing power to the solenoid.

A test light will only tell you the starter relay circuit is passing some power, but it won`t tell you if it is passing sufficient power...

To determine if the circuit is providing sufficient power, use a voltmeter.

The circuit must be under load (unplugging the lead and reading voltage is no more accurate than the test light), and you should read very close to system voltage.
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: charlie on July 16, 2019, 02:51:33 PM
Quick question can u pull the starter out of a 89 EVO without pulling the clutch out like the newer ones just spins
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: Dan89flstc on July 16, 2019, 03:15:17 PM
Quick Answer Youmustremovetheouterprimarycoverandremovethestarterjackshaftbolt. :soda:
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: Deye76 on July 16, 2019, 05:16:37 PM
No free lunch with a 20 yr. old bike. Might be the starter, relay, wiring in the hand controls, or all the above. It ain't easy loving a old bike. when in doubt, throw money at it, or buy a new bike.
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: Dan89flstc on July 16, 2019, 05:57:40 PM
Quote from: 1997 fxstc on July 13, 2019, 01:57:56 PM
   is it safe to say it is a solenoid issue or should I be looking at something else?  Thanks
You should be looking at everything..

Electrical connections, battery, cables, solenoid...

You can check all this without spending a dime, unless you don`t have a multimeter, if you don`t have one you will need to spend about 10 bucks...
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: SixShooter14 on July 16, 2019, 07:23:24 PM
a couple good posts above  :agree:
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: charlie on July 17, 2019, 02:09:02 AM
Well u have answered my Question its been sitting for a decade and its sad nests in the batwing rust on the exhaust tyres stamped 02 but it looks like fun brakes don't work but I`am retired so here goes should be fun plus I am a mechanic old school and I love a challenge tks 
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: SixShooter14 on July 17, 2019, 06:13:02 AM
Quote from: charlie on July 17, 2019, 02:09:02 AM
Well u have answered my Question its been sitting for a decade and its sad nests in the batwing rust on the exhaust tyres stamped 02 but it looks like fun brakes don't work but I`am retired so here goes should be fun plus I am a mechanic old school and I love a challenge tks
that's pretty much the answer to your other thread as well...

Quote....question is do I need a old EVO that need a lot of work....
Title: Related to earlier starter post
Post by: 1997 fxstc on July 17, 2019, 04:30:14 PM
I have a 1993 Heritage Classic.  The original starter is a 31553-90 is superseded by part number 31553-94

The original starter had a ¼ -20x 51/4 through bolt and the new starter uses a 10-32x51/4 one.  I also purchased the a new lock plate and thrust washer because of the smaller through bolt.  However they are to small and slide into the pinion gear which is a 9 spline. Am I missing something?  Harley has no idea what the problem is or the fix. 

Any help or suggestions?   
Title: Re: Related to earlier starter post
Post by: Dan89flstc on July 18, 2019, 05:56:31 AM
Quote from: 1997 fxstc on July 17, 2019, 04:30:14 PM
I have a 1993 Heritage Classic.   
Any help or suggestions?   

Start your own thread.
Title: Re: Related to earlier starter post
Post by: SixShooter14 on July 18, 2019, 06:15:50 AM
Quote from: Dan89flstc on July 18, 2019, 05:56:31 AM
Quote from: 1997 fxstc on July 17, 2019, 04:30:14 PM
I have a 1993 Heritage Classic.   
Any help or suggestions?   

Start your own thread.
:scratch: I believe this is his thread...
Title: Re: Starter issue
Post by: Dan89flstc on July 18, 2019, 07:42:53 AM
Duh....   :slap:
Title: Re: Related to earlier starter post
Post by: xlfan on July 21, 2019, 01:13:02 PM
Quote from: 1997 fxstc on July 17, 2019, 04:30:14 PM
I have a 1993 Heritage Classic.  The original starter is a 31553-90 is superseded by part number 31553-94

The original starter had a ¼ -20x 51/4 through bolt and the new starter uses a 10-32x51/4 one.  I also purchased the a new lock plate and thrust washer because of the smaller through bolt.  However they are to small and slide into the pinion gear which is a 9 spline. Am I missing something?  Harley has no idea what the problem is or the fix. 

Any help or suggestions?   

You need to use the output shaft from your old starter in the new superseded starter.