Will 2015 Street Glide tin fit on a 1994 Road king?

Started by thumper 823, June 04, 2019, 04:16:34 PM

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thumper 823

I have asked the questions, answered the questions and now like an attorney leads the witnesses.
The problematics with the internets is a large number of armchair people that answer based on what they have read and now pronounce it all as facts.
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Yet they never have done much of anything themselves.
I surely wish they would be branded and I have no one in mind here.
  This just is my experience dealing with the unknowns.
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

Burnout

I'll say no, because the 94 is not injected.
There are also many other changes to the rear of the frame.
The front fender "might" bolt on.

How much time and money do you have for this undertaking?
Anything is possible given the right amount of time and cash.
They don't call me Ironhead Rick just because I'm "hard headed"

thumper 823

June 04, 2019, 10:54:41 PM #2 Last Edit: June 04, 2019, 10:59:49 PM by thumper 823
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I have always told people most this crap will swap from bike to bike without too much problem.
I found a tin set complete bags and all a thousand bucks .'That is cheeper then i can paint this for !
Plus all the old tin stays as it is untouched.
Albeit the span in years here are quite a few (21)  and a couple of generations of frame designs different ..
'Guess what?
It has all bolted on


The front inner and outer fairing piece of cake! A small notch needed to be cut for my handlebars. (inner fairing )
The front fender needed bolt holes egg shaped just slightly.
The gas tank needed two rear holes drilled in the frame. The front lower mount works!
Someone makes a fitting so the petcock is installed just like the old, no problem.
Rear fender is the hardest because of the inch and half frame width difference but I wanted to prove it could be done.
It did squeeze in there.
I bought a newer rear frame section (the type that unbolts) and am going to cut my old section off
and do the Fat Bagger trick to this and lower the driver seat about 3 inches.
If I get to it this season or not...
IDK  as I am still messing with the engine .
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

thumper 823

June 04, 2019, 11:03:36 PM #3 Last Edit: June 04, 2019, 11:08:04 PM by thumper 823
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The Hardest part ?
What to do for the tank dash
I really want to keep the old one..but the fill is under it.
If time was no problem I would invent a way for a trap door.
As it is I think I will install the new dash with the Pop-up door and move the speedo up in the fairing.
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

Hossamania

An interesting project. What do you do with the ignition switch?
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take away everything you have.

thumper 823

The answer is I have not.
It is on todays project list .
My two options
1,- drill a hole in the new dash.
Or
2- remount it by the fuse panel or on the other side which I am inclined to do as I am always trying to get rid of more wires.
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

Hossamania

So yes, it bolts on, but no, it does not bolt on.
It looks good, definitely a one off custom by the time you're done.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take away everything you have.

thumper 823

June 05, 2019, 08:40:41 AM #7 Last Edit: June 05, 2019, 03:03:29 PM by thumper 823

So yes, it bolts on, but no, it does not bolt on.
It looks good, definitely a one off custom by the time you're done.
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Well,-for those that want a jack in the box retrofit kit-no.
But it is almost a bolt on kit.
A couple of holes to drill and tap for the rear of the tank, as I stated.
The gas cap dilemma is the hardest part.
I really want to keep the old dash....but bolting on the new style with gas cap flipper is the most EZ .

Buying the new style rear section is the cats butt!
as it allows EZ modification.
There is no reason to buy Fat Baggers 1200.00 dollar rear section unless your hands have not ever done anything.
I bought one on eBay really cheap .
This will allow with some modification a seat section drop.
Like I said I don't know if I will get to that this year after all the engine mods too.
But it is here when I am ready.
To make these EVOs better than a new bike it is quite doable and a LOT less monies.
The M8 has nothing I desire nor the Twinks .
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

turboprop

Quote from: thumper 823 on June 04, 2019, 04:16:34 PM
I have asked the questions, answered the questions and now like an attorney leads the witnesses.
The problematics with the internets is a large number of armchair people that answer based on what they have read and now pronounce it all as facts.
.
Yet they never have done much of anything themselves.
I surely wish they would be branded and I have no one in mind here.
  This just is my experience dealing with the unknowns.

this is one of my biggest issues with this page and others like it. Many of the arm chair commandos have been called out and instead of simply adjusting their behaviors they have moved on to other forums where they get to be an expert, at least for a little while.

Your sheet metal retrofit project looks very doable for the average owner to do themself. Have you looked into what it would take to retrofit an ignition switch from a newer bagger?
'We' like this' - Said by the one man operation.

thumper 823

Quote from: turboprop on June 05, 2019, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: thumper 823 on June 04, 2019, 04:16:34 PM
I have asked the questions, answered the questions and now like an attorney leads the witnesses.
The problematics with the internets is a large number of armchair people that answer based on what they have read and now pronounce it all as facts.
.
Yet they never have done much of anything themselves.
I surely wish they would be branded and I have no one in mind here.
  This just is my experience dealing with the unknowns.

this is one of my biggest issues with this page and others like it. Many of the arm chair commandos have been called out and instead of simply adjusting their behaviors they have moved on to other forums where they get to be an expert, at least for a little while.

Your sheet metal retrofit project looks very doable for the average owner to do themself. Have you looked into what it would take to retrofit an ignition switch from a newer bagger?

Great post-
No I have not looked ,-but I like simple, so i am going to guess by this afternoon I will have just moved the switch.
I am going to guess the newer baggers move the switch up into the dash/ handlebar area?

That to me is just more wires ..
I would guess next Winter I am going to strip every wire out and do it simply.
HD has wires for wires and relays for too much crap.
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

thumper 823

D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

Hossamania

Quote from: thumper 823 on June 05, 2019, 03:01:30 PM
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Nice, I like it, it's just a dash, after all. I wasn't sure if there was enough room under there for the switch, nice to know it will work. Keeps the RoadKing vibe going. You're going to confuse a lot of people.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take away everything you have.

thumper 823

Thanx -

I looked all over for a plastic or CF version.
This thing must weigh ten pounds!
As they say, take care of the ounces and the pounds take care of themselves.
I am always looking for a way to shave here and there.

D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

thumper 823

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Made a spacer for underneath, lots of room
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

thumper 823

June 09, 2019, 11:13:54 PM #14 Last Edit: June 09, 2019, 11:17:55 PM by thumper 823
So far the hardest part is moving the speedo head up to the fairing.
Serious.
There is no hole in the inner fairing where I want it, or the right size.
I am not a music guy on the road (seems silly to me ) -so it is going where the POS radio hole is.
Pix to follow.
Swapping to a newer style would be more EZ,.... but the bike loses its mileage record.
I know some new speedos are programmable - Don't want to do that.
Doing it this way, - when the "Pickers" come to buy this,
the original tin and everything is here to convert it back. LOL
There will be no squabble over mileage.
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

Hossamania

If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take away everything you have.

thumper 823

I love music -but on a bike there is more than enough going on.
I see the Neophytes blasting through the intersections oblivious to being killed every day.
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

thumper 823

I have a new hardest part-being I carry a trunk the luggage rack will not fit until I put on the new rear frame section.
I am going to say that will be next winter.
So now the old will not fit and the new will not fit..LOl
So I am heating and bending convincing the old one to do it.
I should have just fabricated a new one , but I am all most there.
Pix to follow.
I will have to say this is the hardest part.  And it is not very.
To my main point, I still say most HD parts ( tin work) will fit in the same family of Harley parts through the years.
The fairing was EZ
Gas tank, front fender EZ
Rear fender a real squeeze.
Maybe the saddlebags will be the dilemma ..
So far so good.
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

thumper 823

D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

rredneckn2

If you don't like what I say DONT read it

thumper 823

  For whatever reason, I cannot get the pix to upload anymore.
I will gladly txt you or anyone some.
The conversion is pretty much done -not too big of a deal.
I doubt any two people will do it exactly the same as there are options to consider.
As for me , I elected to use the old tail light and signal assembly-just to throw another curveball as to what is being looked at.
It was harder as I had to make a filler for the back of the tail light housing,  as the rear fender radius is not quite the same.
I mixed some epoxy  ( JB welds)  put some blue paint tape dwn so it would not stick the rear fender and filled in the gap.
Basically, it looks like a thicker gasket now, pretty much unnoticeable.
(of course, the tape was removed after and just the spacer used made out of Jb weld.
lots of little nuances.

Most of the transplant is just drilling a couple of holes here and there and what options one wants to use for gauges.
Some wiring.
I filled in the radio hole in the fairing and mounted the original speedo head there. Going with an aftermarket assembly would have been more EZ.
All and all it becomes pretty self-evident and explanatory what needs to be done where.
Even the saddlebags fit right up on the old gear.
Quite surprising really.
On a scale of one to ten, I would rate the job about a three for difficulty.
I say this if you are the type familiar with the use of tools.
If you have ever drilled, sawed, bent, built,  made, or constructed most anything,  this is a piece of cake.
What was the most difficult part you ask?         (you did not, my humor)
LOL
Adding a little bracket to the rear fender that sticks dwn to the center saddle bag support below the tail light.
Not very hard to do.

D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

thumper 823

D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

Pirsch Fire Wagon

You got Time, Money, and a Welder ANYTHING will work out. I've  been involved with both success and failure. What I have found is PATIENTS and thinking outside the BOX will get you where you want to be. Or, damn close!
Tom

thumper 823

In this case, no welding required,
A few holes need to be drilled,
a couple of them tapped.
A lot of little details, nothing that is much of a challenge.
The HARDEST part?  Making the tail light fit.
Next in line ? perhaps cutting the side covers for more clearance near the rear guard.
D Troop 3/5, - C/16 ,162AHC, Mekong delta.
Rising from the Ashes  UHIH

Hossamania

If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take away everything you have.