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Title: Clutch question help
Post by: Ketch on September 07, 2020, 05:10:16 AM
I have a built 107 twin cam. 128tq/118hp. AIM VPC95 was installed with a standard spring. Everything was fine for a bit until it started slipping. I opened it up and noticed that the VPC had been hitting the inside of the "non stock" clutch inspection cover. I now know after some research that it should have not been put on there without a spacer kit. The VPC does have some wear marks in the weights but not too bad. So...I purchased a Barnett carbon fiber extra plate kit (thinking that can't hurt), installed it along with the VPC. Still slipping! Driving me crazy cuz I don't think it should be..Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: rigidthumper on September 07, 2020, 06:27:50 AM
Did you use Barnetts heavy spring with the new plate kit?
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: Ketch on September 07, 2020, 06:56:59 AM
No. I tried one in the very beginning but it's just too heavy for me. That's why I went with the lock up hat.
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: rigidthumper on September 07, 2020, 09:12:48 AM
Lock up hat only works above a certain RPM- below that, it's all about spring pressure.
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: tommy g on September 07, 2020, 07:00:40 PM
I have roughly the same power and an Energy One with stiff spring and no hat has served me well for many miles.
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: Pirsch Fire Wagon on September 09, 2020, 06:15:42 AM
You definitely want the Heavy Spring. You can seek a reduced Pressure Ramp or go Hydraulic to solve the pull strength requirement.

Did you do a thorough inspection of the Hub and Bearing?  Either can contribute to Slipping or Drag.

I know (it doesn't affect your Clutch) the SE Steel Plates will warp in a short time if slipping or dragging due to heat. I've seen them look like wave washers. I'm sure you would have caught that.

I would not think the wear on the VPC would affect anything compared to Mass unless they were warn a darn good bit.
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: Nutoy on September 17, 2020, 04:56:25 PM
what oil are you using in primary? I bought a vpc from fuelmoto and I asked them about primay oil and they said to use only conventual oil.
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: Don D on September 17, 2020, 05:02:23 PM
We bypass the VPN and use Rekluse clutch kits here. They reduce lever effort, increase torque handling capacity,  and have proper throw which means not hard to find neutral or drag
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: C-Cat on September 17, 2020, 06:15:40 PM
Quote from: HD Street Performance on September 17, 2020, 05:02:23 PM
We bypass the VPN and use Rekluse clutch kits here. They reduce lever effort, increase torque handling capacity,  and have proper throw which means not hard to find neutral or drag
I've had one in my Roadglide for a few years now. Great setup holds 129/127 no problem.
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: tdrglide on September 18, 2020, 03:25:10 AM
Quote from: C-Cat on September 17, 2020, 06:15:40 PM
Quote from: HD Street Performance on September 17, 2020, 05:02:23 PM
We bypass the VPN and use Rekluse clutch kits here. They reduce lever effort, increase torque handling capacity,  and have proper throw which means not hard to find neutral or drag
I've had one in my Roadglide for a few years now. Great setup holds 129/127 no problem.
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Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: tommy g on September 18, 2020, 08:22:05 PM
Quote from: HD Street Performance on September 17, 2020, 05:02:23 PM
We bypass the VPN and use Rekluse clutch kits here. They reduce lever effort, increase torque handling capacity,  and have proper throw which means not hard to find neutral or drag
Is there a good number for throw?
Title: Re: Clutch question help
Post by: Ketch on September 21, 2020, 04:16:14 AM
Screaming Eagle spring was the fix. Inbetween the Stock and Barnett heavy duty. Lever pull is mild difference and it did the trick.