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Title: Battery brand and type???
Post by: 89 fxrs on December 03, 2018, 05:54:37 PM
would like some feedback on how often do you guys replace your battery, what type of battery as well as what brand
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: gonenorth on December 03, 2018, 06:08:17 PM
Battery life hasn't been very good for the past 10 years.  I am getting around 3 years on batteries and using the tender more.  I typically replace the HD battery with an Interstate AGM type.  Honestly, I haven't seen much difference between battery life with stock HD or Interstate.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: Coyote on December 03, 2018, 06:10:53 PM
I just replaced mine. Went with the "best" one (Duracell I think) from Batteries Plus. Less money than the HD one and if it fails load test in the first 2 years, they will replace it out right (no prorate).
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: calif phil on December 03, 2018, 07:26:01 PM
Three to four years is doing pretty good with batteries.  Yuasa premium are my favorite.  They are sold with many different labels. Bikers Choice, Drag Specialties, Interstate are a few. 
Deka are still good and also sold under many brands.  I think those are your only USA made brands.   So if you buy a US made battery you should be good. 
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: Skin on December 04, 2018, 03:20:47 AM
I also go to Batteries Plus and have bought batteries for the last few years and never had to use the warranty. I have a Friend that had to take a battery back and there were no questions asked.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: CndUltra88 on December 04, 2018, 04:52:54 AM
When I bought my new to me 02 Ultra in 2006 that battery lasted another three years.
Bought another HD that lasted four years.
Then two more Dekas till this past summer when I replaced the bike and it contained a Shorai lithium battery.
So guess I will be the guinea pig and see how much life I get out of it.
Charges right up while off the bike on the tender in under 10 minutes too, so we will see. (tender gets plugged in once a month)
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: Buglet on December 04, 2018, 05:24:53 AM
    I run a Shorai in one of my bike's, going on 9 years and going strong. I only put it on a charger if it sets longer then 3  or 4  months. The other ones get yuasa they go on the average 5 to 9 years. They also get charge if they sit longer then 3 months. I see just as many battery's go dead with tenders as with out. I do not use tenders any more. And I tell any if they do once the lite is green unplug it and wait a month before you plug it back in.     
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: Mule on December 04, 2018, 06:51:25 AM
The battery problem is because there is not much virgin lead anymore in the USA. Most lead ore mined in the USA is sent out of the country to be processed! Obama's EPA put the last of the lead smelters out of Business with regulations. Battery manufactures are using Recycled lead and it doesn't have the same life span as virgin lead.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: tbird on December 04, 2018, 06:57:48 AM
2000 r-king 98,000 miles. Only replaced battery once.  Bike is carbed so no draw when sitting. In cold [gets 30 below] storage 5 months a yr. Never use tender.  Harley battery. Guess I got lucky expect it to give it up sooner or later. Have replaced batteries in other bikes I have owned but unable to track cuz I sold them. I did get 11 yrs out of a battery in a dyna I owned for 12 yrs. 
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: Outerlimits on December 04, 2018, 08:08:28 AM
There are only a couple of battery manufactures out their....everyone buys and rebrands them. If you get more than two years from them you are doing good now a days. Have bought from this site a couple of times.

https://www.batterymart.com.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: doctorevil on December 04, 2018, 09:17:57 AM
  I only install deka east penn batteries. I have been to the east penn warehouse in Ontario ca. on the pallets you see the same batteries and there labels,exact same battery. the labels are Deka, harleydavidson , bigcrank, xrated. lightning start,duracell, heavy start, all the same battery. the only custom battery with with greater cca is the braille racing and one other label i dont recall. best price here in socal for deka etx20 is partsauthority warehouse.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: MikeL on December 04, 2018, 02:57:34 PM
Deka East Penn batteries have the solid terminals less prone to cracking, coming loose and melting apart if by chance the connection comes loose. They also have extra holes in the terminals so you can install accessories without messing with the main connection. I will never use anything but Deka or in a bind HD$$$$ May try a lithium ion next time I need to replace.

                                                                                                      MIKE
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: fleetmechanic on December 04, 2018, 04:05:04 PM
We use DEKA ETX30L batteries in our fleet of escort bikes.  They seem to last about 4 years whether the bike goes out everyday or sits around most of the time like the winter sidecar rigs.  We get them from Hi-Tech Battery Solutions.com.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: Deye76 on December 04, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
"The battery problem is because there is not much virgin lead anymore in the USA."
There is no battery problem. millions of cars have them and they last 6 years on average. As for motorcycles, use the lead for fishing anchors, I'm sold on Lithium Iron.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: turboprop on December 04, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on December 04, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
"The battery problem is because there is not much virgin lead anymore in the USA."
There is no battery problem. millions of cars have them and they last 6 years on average. As for motorcycles, use the lead for fishing anchors, I'm sold on Lithium Iron.

Yep.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: 92flhtcu on December 04, 2018, 05:35:08 PM
Yep as well, been switching over to Li-Ion as my lead batteries expire, 3 so far, oldest is 3.5yrs old without issue
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: jls 64 on December 04, 2018, 07:23:42 PM
I have only two options were I.live oem hd and yuasa.3year so far.i wana try.the li-ion ion next.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: 92flhtcu on December 05, 2018, 03:33:25 AM
jls64, given your choices, the Yuasa GYZ series is better than OEM and usually same $$
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: smoserx1 on December 05, 2018, 05:27:29 AM
Back when I began riding small Japanese twins in the late 60s I considered myself lucky to get 6 months out of a battery and a tear out of a car battery.  Nowadays I can usually get three years out of a motorcycle AGM battery but anything longer than that I consider borrowed time.  I read a few posts of folks getting (or used to get) 5+ years out of one and I actually know someone who did but I have a feeling that is the exception to the rule.  Right now I have one of those Duracell batteries from Batteries and Bulbs and it is about two and a half years old.  It is definitely weaker than it was new.  I will probably replace it within a year.  The last couple of car batteries I have bought have also died after about 3 years and both of them went from seemingly healthy to no-start with no warning whatsoever.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: No Cents on December 05, 2018, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: turboprop on December 04, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on December 04, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
"The battery problem is because there is not much virgin lead anymore in the USA."
There is no battery problem. millions of cars have them and they last 6 years on average. As for motorcycles, use the lead for fishing anchors, I'm sold on Lithium Iron.

Yep.

x3
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: truck on December 05, 2018, 07:55:46 AM
Quote from: MIKEL on December 04, 2018, 02:57:34 PM
Deka East Penn batteries have the solid terminals less prone to cracking, coming loose and melting apart if by chance the connection comes loose. They also have extra holes in the terminals so you can install accessories without messing with the main connection. I will never use anything but Deka or in a bind HD$$$$ May try a lithium ion next time I need to replace.

                                                                                                      MIKE
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Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: truck on December 05, 2018, 08:00:54 AM
Quote from: jls 64 on December 04, 2018, 07:23:42 PM
I have only two options were I.live oem hd and yuasa.3year so far.i wana try.the li-ion ion next.
I see lithium ion and lithium iron being talked about. Which is it?
https://www.newcastlesys.com/blog/lithium-ion-vs-lithium-iron-batteries
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: No Cents on December 05, 2018, 08:19:59 AM
 lithium-ion
I run one made by Twin Power.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: truck on December 05, 2018, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: No Cents on December 05, 2018, 08:19:59 AM
lithium-ion
I run one made by Twin Power.
:smileo: The dangerous one.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: FXDBI on December 05, 2018, 08:41:37 AM
Quote from: No Cents on December 05, 2018, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: turboprop on December 04, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on December 04, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
"The battery problem is because there is not much virgin lead anymore in the USA."
There is no battery problem. millions of cars have them and they last 6 years on average. As for motorcycles, use the lead for fishing anchors, I'm sold on Lithium Iron.

Yep.

x3

X4 some of the best spent money ever on my bike.   Bob
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: Moparnut72 on December 05, 2018, 09:57:41 AM
I am looking at batteries, not that I really need one. It's just that my bike has a hard time starting when it is cold. I ride year around and live where it gets cold. I don't ride much when it is below freezing but above I do.  Some mornings my bike really struggles to even turn over and in warm weather doesn't exactly spin over quickly.  Slim S with the 110 motor. So I have been trying to find a battery with more cranking amps. It seems the the lithium batteries, ion or Iron, meet this requirement. However the reviews of both of these are very negative when it comes to cold weather. So I guess lithium batteries are out. A bigger lead acid would be ideal but the battery compartment on this bike is kinda small. Any comments?
kk
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: Deye76 on December 05, 2018, 04:00:30 PM
Lithium Iron for motorcycles.
From trucks link..............."The lithium-iron battery has superior chemical and thermal stability."
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: jls 64 on December 05, 2018, 04:25:48 PM
Try to improve your battery cables.the starter cable to.
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: mrmike on December 05, 2018, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: FXDBI on December 05, 2018, 08:41:37 AM
Quote from: No Cents on December 05, 2018, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: turboprop on December 04, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on December 04, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
"The battery problem is because there is not much virgin lead anymore in the USA."
There is no battery problem. millions of cars have them and they last 6 years on average. As for motorcycles, use the lead for fishing anchors, I'm sold on Lithium Iron.

Yep.

x3

X4 some of the best spent money ever on my bike.   Bob



x5  I agree.  :up:

Mike
Title: Re: Battery brand and type???
Post by: jmorton10 on December 06, 2018, 04:33:02 AM
Quote from: mrmike on December 05, 2018, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: FXDBI on December 05, 2018, 08:41:37 AM
Quote from: No Cents on December 05, 2018, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: turboprop on December 04, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on December 04, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
"The battery problem is because there is not much virgin lead anymore in the USA."
There is no battery problem. millions of cars have them and they last 6 years on average. As for motorcycles, use the lead for fishing anchors, I'm sold on Lithium Iron.

Yep.

x3

X4 some of the best spent money ever on my bike.   Bob



x5  I agree.  :up:

Mike

x6, one of the best things I have done to my 124" RK.

~John