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Technical Forums => EVO 1340 => Topic started by: xlfan on March 05, 2020, 12:04:33 PM

Title: Ignition pickup/cam sensor
Post by: xlfan on March 05, 2020, 12:04:33 PM
Can anyone confirm that the stock 3-wire 32400-83 ignition pickup, has a black ground wire, red +12V and a green signal wire?

Anyone know when the MoCo went to +5V ignition pickup reference voltage?
Title: Re: Ignition pickup/cam sensor
Post by: Burnout on March 05, 2020, 01:47:08 PM
I don't think they have ever been 12v.
Title: Re: Ignition pickup/cam sensor
Post by: Racepres on March 06, 2020, 06:59:10 AM
Quote from: Burnout on March 05, 2020, 01:47:08 PM
I don't think they have ever been 12v.
I also thought that the Only system that sent 12v to the cone were "All in the cone" systems... not the External "box" ones!!!
Title: Re: Ignition pickup/cam sensor
Post by: Evo160K on March 06, 2020, 03:58:37 PM
Perhaps this wiring diagram will do some good:

https://www.classiccycles.org/media//DIR_1653304/DIR_1679204/DIR_1776956/68450472b60c8aa1ffff8539ffffe41e.pdf
Title: Re: Ignition pickup/cam sensor
Post by: xlfan on March 09, 2020, 01:29:33 PM
Quote from: Burnout on March 05, 2020, 01:47:08 PM
I don't think they have ever been 12v.

That means that you should have a readout of 5V between red and black/white pin of the "box"? (With ignition on, that is)
Title: Re: Ignition pickup/cam sensor
Post by: xlfan on March 10, 2020, 06:17:55 AM
When bench testing an old style (pre deutsch plug) ignition module (7-pin box), I can't find 5V anywhere, just a 1V voltage drop compared to input voltage of 12V, over the red and black/white pickup contact.

Could that indicate that the module are shot?
Title: Re: Ignition pickup/cam sensor
Post by: Burnout on March 10, 2020, 10:24:30 AM
It's been so long since I had to diagnose one, I don't recall.
The factory service manuals give a simple and clear diagnosis procedure.
Title: Re: Ignition pickup/cam sensor
Post by: xlfan on March 10, 2020, 10:55:56 AM
I know, but none of those procedures are based on "hot" systems, and I have found that these procedures often will fall to identify a "running problem" and pass them as fully functional.

I can't find any reference for running voltage to ignition pickup/cam sensor anywhere in any of the FSM's between 1983 and 1999.
Title: Re: Ignition pickup/cam sensor
Post by: Burnout on March 11, 2020, 08:47:39 AM
If you are having running problems disconnect the alternator and see if the problem goes away.
I have seen a bad alternator cause ignition problems in the past.

But if the potting compound has dripped out of the pickup, it's bad or will be soon.