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Title: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on September 30, 2019, 05:49:31 PM
 When I was ridding in Colorado a couple of weeks ago the red light that looks like a key came on while ridding and I thought damn what the hell but that was a night coming to the Motel and I just kept ridding and hoped it would stay running .The damn thing would go on and then off not flashing but on for a while the off . I just assumed the battery was weak and I just forgot to check that one off the list . Got home and installed a new battery and the same crap . Ok I not sure how to proceed here I assuming the system is not getting the correct signal to make the alarm system happy for a better term. My other bike does not have this and now I happy about that .  If I knew how I would just add a jumper to it or what ever it takes to make this work .  Any idea on what is the way to test this system , Might be a weak fob or what ever damn
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Panzer on September 30, 2019, 06:35:53 PM
Check your alarm wires to battery and ground.
Year and model??
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: kd on September 30, 2019, 06:49:10 PM
I believe it's telling you to check for codes.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Karl H. on September 30, 2019, 10:42:06 PM
Quote from: kd on September 30, 2019, 06:49:10 PM
I believe it's telling you to check for codes.

:agree:
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Pirsch Fire Wagon on October 01, 2019, 02:23:32 AM
The TSSM has identified a Malfunction in the System. The Service Manual explains how to retrieve the Diagnostic Code in the System.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Hossamania on October 01, 2019, 03:33:16 AM
Check for burned out light bulbs, turn signals, loose bulb, or slightly broken filament making intermittent connection.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Breeze on October 01, 2019, 03:38:37 AM
Red key light indicates a problem in the TSSM system. Could be a bulb or security sys. problem. Yellow engine light indicates a code has been stored.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 01, 2019, 11:53:26 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on October 01, 2019, 03:33:16 AM
Check for burned out light bulbs, turn signals, loose bulb, or slightly broken filament making intermittent connection.
Hoss i installed new led head lights and the two other smaller lights that are below left and right ......i did not know those would cause this problem
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Coyote on October 01, 2019, 12:07:38 PM
You really need to specify the year and model to be able to offer anything. That said, your bike has a diagnostic code set.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: convert1967 on October 01, 2019, 03:18:27 PM
Sure sounds like the TSSM isn't recognizing your LEDs, The don't draw enough current.  The TSSM thinks you have bulbs out in your front marker/turn signals.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 01, 2019, 05:37:27 PM
Quote from: Coyote on October 01, 2019, 12:07:38 PM
You really need to specify the year and model to be able to offer anything. That said, your bike has a diagnostic code set.
Your right its a 12 street glide . I installed new head light and the fog lights or what ever they are but they are working so I don't know if that matters. One interesting thing is its not wanting to start good hot now after I installed the new stock lead acid battery that came off the 12 road glide with the 145 inch SS motor . The twin power battery really spun over the 124 inch and I probably going to order another one this week  . Probably means nothing about the battery . I jumper or add a value to the alarm system If I knew how and just use my little friend to help me with theft   
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Coyote on October 01, 2019, 05:46:43 PM
How to pull your codes (https://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=53211.0)

I don't think your LED lights are an issue.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 02, 2019, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Coyote on October 01, 2019, 05:46:43 PM
How to pull your codes (https://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=53211.0)

I don't think your LED lights are an issue.
Yea I going to this week end as I pretty busy during the week and I like to work over time so it waits till I have time thanks for the advice . Glad I don't have a alarm on the Road Glide now not worth the potential problems .   
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Coyote on October 02, 2019, 05:28:11 PM
Quote from: 1workinman on October 02, 2019, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Coyote on October 01, 2019, 05:46:43 PM
How to pull your codes (https://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=53211.0)

I don't think your LED lights are an issue.
Yea I going to this week end as I pretty busy during the week and I like to work over time so it waits till I have time thanks for the advice . Glad I don't have a alarm on the Road Glide now not worth the potential problems .

There's no problems with HD's alarm system. There are problems with some users.  :wink:
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 06, 2019, 06:57:04 PM
Quote from: Coyote on October 02, 2019, 05:28:11 PM
Quote from: 1workinman on October 02, 2019, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Coyote on October 01, 2019, 05:46:43 PM
How to pull your codes (https://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=53211.0)

I don't think your LED lights are an issue.
Yea I going to this week end as I pretty busy during the week and I like to work over time so it waits till I have time thanks for the advice . Glad I don't have a alarm on the Road Glide now not worth the potential problems .

There's no problems with HD's alarm system. There are problems with some users.  :wink:
Yea I guess your right as I ran the bike for codes and there was none so there you have it no problems with the HD alarm perfect just like the system with no alarm on it
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 06, 2019, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: Coyote on October 02, 2019, 05:28:11 PM
Quote from: 1workinman on October 02, 2019, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Coyote on October 01, 2019, 05:46:43 PM
How to pull your codes (https://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=53211.0)

I don't think your LED lights are an issue.
Yea I going to this week end as I pretty busy during the week and I like to work over time so it waits till I have time thanks for the advice . Glad I don't have a alarm on the Road Glide now not worth the potential problems .

There's no problems with HD's alarm system. There are problems with some users.  :wink:
The alarm is just a thing and things usually does not matter I get it fixed or not no big deal lol
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 08, 2019, 06:36:26 AM
Went to anouther web sight found info basically i have to buy a tsm from ebay and marry it to ecm so i know now the perfect alarm system can be deleted . I know several have done this .
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Coyote on October 08, 2019, 07:20:40 AM
Been discussed here many times. You can also program the FOB codes to all zeros. What does any of this have to do with your original question?
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: rigidthumper on October 08, 2019, 07:41:18 AM
Can you force all zeros with Centurian? DT will not let you use zeros.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Coyote on October 08, 2019, 07:48:09 AM
Yeah, I think you can. At least that's what I remember from going to their training class.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: lonewolf on October 08, 2019, 08:46:48 AM
Quote from: rigidthumper on October 08, 2019, 07:41:18 AM
Can you force all zeros with Centurian? DT will not let you use zeros.
I'm sure I have but not last time I tried. Just had to disable the fobs.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Hossamania on October 08, 2019, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: 1workinman on October 01, 2019, 11:53:26 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on October 01, 2019, 03:33:16 AM
Check for burned out light bulbs, turn signals, loose bulb, or slightly broken filament making intermittent connection.
Hoss i installed new led head lights and the two other smaller lights that are below left and right ......i did not know those would cause this problem

Did the problem start right after you installed these lights?
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 08, 2019, 10:25:48 AM
Quote from: Coyote on October 08, 2019, 07:20:40 AM
Been discussed here many times. You can also program the FOB codes to all zeros. What does any of this have to do with your original question?
perhaps i did not ask correctly i wanted to know how to add a value to it . I assume that where the 00000 come in and i know that now from searching and i asked about a jumper that i know now just swap out unit .  Ok no big deal no problem with operator other that i want the system gone my bike ok
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 08, 2019, 10:52:30 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on October 08, 2019, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: 1workinman on October 01, 2019, 11:53:26 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on October 01, 2019, 03:33:16 AM
Check for burned out light bulbs, turn signals, loose bulb, or slightly broken filament making intermittent connection.
Hoss i installed new led head lights and the two other smaller lights that are below left and right ......i did not know those would cause this problem

Did the problem start right after you installed these lights?
yea it did  and i hauled borh bikes to Colorado to ride when the damn securty light came off and on on a ride back to motel on the side of a mountain.  I knew then i was Done with the alarm system .  I knew there had to be a way to be rid of it . My vw i hade it removed in the ecm . At work we can add a value to systems to change the way a system operates .  Like i said no big deal i remove the unit marry system done
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: Coyote on October 08, 2019, 01:15:16 PM
And once again you are assuming the security light means a security problem. It does not. The light coming on indicates a diagnostic code set. It could be related to any number of things. Did you ever pull the codes?
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 08, 2019, 03:20:39 PM
No codes  found this happened after i installed the led head lights . Not that i care . I going to delete the security system.  And  move on .
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on October 08, 2019, 03:24:53 PM
I appreciate the help but i going to delete the security system. 
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on November 04, 2019, 04:42:58 PM
After all of the advice I ordered the new TSM from an on line dealer and I got the instructions from another web sight lol and finally got the part in it was back ordered . I pulled the TSSM out and the antenna and reinstalled the new part . landed the battery cables on the battery and went through the instructions . After I got through all of the instructions I started up the bike . There was some codes that I cleared after the fact . None now and no more key fab . Done . Thanks for the advice
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: jls 64 on November 04, 2019, 05:59:13 PM
 Congrats I pullet the tssm out to.no more key fob.
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on November 05, 2019, 09:12:37 AM
Yea i was done when that light started to flash off and on a mountain in Colorado middle of the night cold as hell trying to get to motel and not hit a elk or something . I said never again . I dont have a problem with alarms but i dont want to deal with it not wanting to run
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: 1workinman on November 05, 2019, 09:16:57 AM
Quote from: jls 64 on November 04, 2019, 05:59:13 PM
Congrats I pullet the tssm out to.no more key fob.
was not sure if i did all of that right but it worked lol
Title: Re: key fob and alarm system
Post by: tomcat64 on November 06, 2019, 03:31:35 PM
Quote from: rigidthumper on October 08, 2019, 07:41:18 AM
Can you force all zeros with Centurian? DT will not let you use zeros.

we do it all the time here..