Lookin to build up my Evo without boring the cases.. i have a stock 98 evo with 56k
What is your budget? What kind of bike? What do you want out of it?
98 fatboy looking for a torque monster but be dependable across country
i have 4200 for my budget
http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=74821.msg818945#msg818945
Do a search for options
A lot of info.on htt
One caution on the 98 evo's. A high percentage of them have tight rods. The rods will stand up on their own. I have 2 of them and they both were tight and needed to be fixed. Especially if built and abused. May or may not be an issue but when the barrels come off a rod check will tell. Both of mine were touring and not softails. I don't know if some of the softails were a problem too. :nix: Some one may chime in with more info.
Quote from: RoadDawg78 on January 07, 2019, 07:45:45 PM
i have 4200 for my budget
$4,200 Budget? Buy this, change the rocker arms to an oem set done by Baisley, have change left over. Done.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultima-Black-El-Bruto-120c-i-Complete-Engine-for-Harley-Big-Twin-1984-1999/232683208983?epid=1511852713&hash=item362d000117:g:SiEAAOxy2d9SVwta:rk:71:pf:0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultima-Black-El-Bruto-120c-i-Complete-Engine-for-Harley-Big-Twin-1984-1999/232683208983?epid=1511852713&hash=item362d000117:g:SiEAAOxy2d9SVwta:rk:71:pf:0)
Quote from: turboprop on January 08, 2019, 04:39:16 AM
Quote from: RoadDawg78 on January 07, 2019, 07:45:45 PM
i have 4200 for my budget
$4,200 Budget? Buy this, change the rocker arms to an oem set done by Baisley, have change left over. Done.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultima-Black-El-Bruto-120c-i-Complete-Engine-for-Harley-Big-Twin-1984-1999/232683208983?epid=1511852713&hash=item362d000117:g:SiEAAOxy2d9SVwta:rk:71:pf:0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultima-Black-El-Bruto-120c-i-Complete-Engine-for-Harley-Big-Twin-1984-1999/232683208983?epid=1511852713&hash=item362d000117:g:SiEAAOxy2d9SVwta:rk:71:pf:0)
:up: ,,,,, and a spare engine
:up: yeah i would like to have one.120 el bruto
Quote from: RoadDawg78 on January 07, 2019, 07:30:44 PM
Lookin to build up my Evo without boring the cases.. i have a stock 98 evo with 56k
89" S&S wheel set
Wood 6H cam
10.0 cr
Good heads
S&S E, T/jet
Dyna 2000i
Supertrapp 2/1
Wideband torque, with 100 hp in reach.
Leave room in the budget for a stronger clutch, pipe, and intake if required.
That kind of , money should be no problem getting a good motor built , just find a builder with a good reputation , ask around
Better pay a builder than buy a motor.yust my opinion
Actually at that mileage, the OE crank will suffice, and an 80"er can still produce great power.
Did this to my `97 Fatboy.
Honed the barrels, new rings, 10 thou off the heads, new valve springs and intakes ported for larger valves, adjustable rods, B type lifters. Accel single fire. Was already running a Mikuni with V&H Staggered`s and an EV13 cam.
Very noticeable improvement once i`d redialled the Mikuni in.
Not that expensive for me but i work in UK money so not really sure how it would work out for you.
just say AXTELL!
Call Ron and get cast iron 85-inch jugs .
Angle tops and a cam you will be happy...until next season..bigger is better and its all a slippery slope
80" Evo can easily be built to a reliable 85-90 hp, low 90's plus torque.
3 in process here, now.
Go with Hillside -Ya can't go wrong!
a stock 98 EVO with 56k on it and 4200 skins in the budget :scratch:
I'd look for a similar or higher mileage engine on CL or eBay and have it worked over by one of the vendors and when done mothball the original in the lounge room, office, bedroom
:idea: :up:
Maybe speak to one our parts vendors about an Ultima 100" motor.
http://www.ultimaproducts.com/100engine.html
Quote from: turboprop on January 08, 2019, 04:39:16 AM
Quote from: RoadDawg78 on January 07, 2019, 07:45:45 PM
i have 4200 for my budget
$4,200 Budget? Buy this, change the rocker arms to an oem set done by Baisley, have change left over. Done.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultima-Black-El-Bruto-120c-i-Complete-Engine-for-Harley-Big-Twin-1984-1999/232683208983?epid=1511852713&hash=item362d000117:g:SiEAAOxy2d9SVwta:rk:71:pf:0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultima-Black-El-Bruto-120c-i-Complete-Engine-for-Harley-Big-Twin-1984-1999/232683208983?epid=1511852713&hash=item362d000117:g:SiEAAOxy2d9SVwta:rk:71:pf:0) I did this upgrade on a 95 classic and it ran excellent. A high speed John Deere. I miss that bike. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Just change lifters and rocker arms out the gate and you won't have any issues.
Quote from: rredneckn2 on April 27, 2019, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: turboprop on January 08, 2019, 04:39:16 AM
Quote from: RoadDawg78 on January 07, 2019, 07:45:45 PM
i have 4200 for my budget
$4,200 Budget? Buy this, change the rocker arms to an oem set done by Baisley, have change left over. Done.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultima-Black-El-Bruto-120c-i-Complete-Engine-for-Harley-Big-Twin-1984-1999/232683208983?epid=1511852713&hash=item362d000117:g:SiEAAOxy2d9SVwta:rk:71:pf:0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultima-Black-El-Bruto-120c-i-Complete-Engine-for-Harley-Big-Twin-1984-1999/232683208983?epid=1511852713&hash=item362d000117:g:SiEAAOxy2d9SVwta:rk:71:pf:0) I did this upgrade on a 95 classic and it ran excellent. A high speed John Deere. I miss that bike. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Just change lifters and rocker arms out the gate and you won't have any issues.
Yep,
I have a bunch of friends running them in FXRs. Most leave them as they come right out of the crate and end up having issues with the listers and rockers, but tother that they seem like pretty good engines and a terrific value. I am sort fo skeptical about the horsepower numbers that Ultima claims as I have seen way too many sheets that came up way short of the advertised numbers.
Buy the engine direct from Jireh Cycles (no sales tax, free shipping), buy a set of harley rocker arms and send them to Baisley, replace the lifters with a set of Hylifts from Larry. Under $4k with a bunch of really nice and new castings that are much better than anything Harley ever poured. Too bad Ultima doesn't make TC crate engines. I would buy one in minute.