10k's coming up and I was getting discouraged by the 8-9 per qt syn prices; went by NAPA and found Valvo 20-50 full for 5ish per (sale price); in central FL 20-50 is difficult to find at any price, so I was happy to get out the door at around $25 bucks; also found a K&N filter on Amazon for $10 to my front door; good day
Quote from: carolinayarddog on December 07, 2014, 06:18:36 AM
10k's coming up and I was getting discouraged by the 8-9 per qt syn prices; went by NAPA and found Valvo 20-50 full for 5ish per (sale price); in central FL 20-50 is difficult to find at any price, so I was happy to get out the door at around $25 bucks; also found a K&N filter on Amazon for $10 to my front door; good day
I'd be dancing in the street if I could get syn at 8-9 per qt. Around here Amsoil is 12 ish and Mobil1 14.
Ron
I get Mobile 1 V Twin on Amazon for a little over $10 a quart. I have Amazon Prime so shipping is free.
Walmart carries Vtwin Mobile 1 20w-50w here at my local store for less than $9.00 per quart.
I am sure if you go to your local Walmart and ask them to stock it they would!!
I have always had to pay $12.00+ anywhere else.......I found it there last week.......it was in a different location than all other auto motor oils.......never saw it as I never looked where it was..........great surprise!!
been using NAPA 20-50 AUTO OIL (Valvoline) and their filters 1348(WIX) for years in a 97 Sportster and a o3 FLHT for many years. don't worry...be happy!! regards, Z.
I picked up a 5 qt jug of Mobil 1, 15-50 just last night at Walmart for $26.68
What's the big deal about syn. oil? :idunno: Unless your ambient temps are high. North of the 49th there is no need as long as you use a decent quality dino oil & change regular, or planning a trip south! :scoot:
http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,925.0.html (http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,925.0.html)
Hmmm? Syn for about $3 a quart... even if it was '08?
:missed:
Have you checked out 10w60 Moly?
Just say'n
signed....BUBBIE
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WELL SAID Ray.....
Quote from: chopper on December 07, 2014, 09:38:24 AM
I picked up a 5 qt jug of Mobil 1, 15-50 just last night at Walmart for $26.68
I buy my Mobil 1 15w50 synthetic oil @ Wal-Mart also. It ranges between $25.00- $27.00 for the 5 qt. jug. I use it now in the winter months in Ohio...but I use to run it year round. I ran Amsoil 20w50 for years...but it seemed to keep getting harder to find it around here locally and the Mobil 1 15w50 was always on the shelf at Wal-Mart.
This past summer I switched to over to the Liqui Moly 10w60 synthetic oil that I buy at Napa Auto parts...and I must say I will continue to use it in the hotter riding season months. I really like the Liqui Moly 10w60...it makes for a noticeably quieter valve train using it.
Ray
like I said, 20-50 or 15-50 does not exist at the Walmarts here in my part of FL; would love to find the five gallon jugs; they don't even carry the 5-20 for my truck, but I cheat and buy the next closest vis
I would think your local auto parts store can order 20/50 regular for you, and can find 20/50 syn if you want. My local O'Reilly used to carry Valvoline 20/50 full syn in stock, but now can get it in a day or 2 if I have them order it in.
Just to rub it in, I found it on sale there last year for $2.98 / quart. Bought all 27 quarts they had in stock.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Quicksilver-20W-50-Motorcycle-Oil-1-gal/35792202 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Quicksilver-20W-50-Motorcycle-Oil-1-gal/35792202)
As good as the rest I'd say.
Quote from: rbabos on December 07, 2014, 08:17:23 AM
Quote from: carolinayarddog on December 07, 2014, 06:18:36 AM
10k's coming up and I was getting discouraged by the 8-9 per qt syn prices; went by NAPA and found Valvo 20-50 full for 5ish per (sale price); in central FL 20-50 is difficult to find at any price, so I was happy to get out the door at around $25 bucks; also found a K&N filter on Amazon for $10 to my front door; good day
I'd be dancing in the street if I could get syn at 8-9 per qt. Around here Amsoil is 12 ish and Mobil1 14.
Ron
Border crossing mark-up. :hyst:
A consideration on the Valvoline Oil. This was a quite a few years ago, but I used to work on BMW's Found several of them had timing chains going bad at early miles. The chains all had a white past on them, which kept the oil from getting to them. Sent a sample to Valvoline. Engineer said "Do not use our oil in these engines, they run to cool for our oil. Timing chains were in the very front of the engines and these were the opposed cylinder engines which do run cool!
What exactly is the white paste from synthetic oil?
Looks and feels like assembly lube , but I know it's not.
Quote from: ΚĜΗΟŜΤ on December 07, 2014, 08:53:42 AM
Walmart carries Vtwin Mobile 1 20w-50w here at my local store for less than $9.00 per quart.
I am sure if you go to your local Walmart and ask them to stock it they would!!
I have always had to pay $12.00+ anywhere else.......I found it there last week.......it was in a different location than all other auto motor oils.......never saw it as I never looked where it was..........great surprise!!
Same here in North Carolina ...and like you said, it's never in the auto oil section.
Quote from: 08FLHTC on December 08, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
A consideration on the Valvoline Oil. This was a quite a few years ago, but I used to work on BMW's Found several of them had timing chains going bad at early miles. The chains all had a white past on them, which kept the oil from getting to them. Sent a sample to Valvoline. Engineer said "Do not use our oil in these engines, they run to cool for our oil. Timing chains were in the very front of the engines and these were the opposed cylinder engines which do run cool!
should have Stuck with the beemer oil which is golden spectro in disguise.
Syn 3 is $17 a litre up here.
Ouch. Dam border crossing fees again.
I have Pep Boys E-Mail alerts and just received a 30% off any order with free shipping to my local Pep Boys. Ordered 10 quarts of Mobil 1 20/50 V Twin full synthetic for $7.69 a Qt.
Street Glide.
I used to get caught up in that oil thingy, till I found this. Nuff said.
http://stores.buyschaefferoil.com/schaeffers-707-20w-50-v-twin-synthetic-plus-racing-oil-12-quart-case/ (http://stores.buyschaefferoil.com/schaeffers-707-20w-50-v-twin-synthetic-plus-racing-oil-12-quart-case/)
Quote from: Iamwill on December 09, 2014, 02:50:10 PM
Syn 3 is $17 a litre up here.
Must be something special at that price. :sick: I guess Amsoil's a steal then. :hyst: Don't know how they suck people into paying that for a group3 oil. It's a wanna be syn only.
Ron
You all keep right on using all them off brand oils,,,my way of thinking if you can afford a bike especially a Hog,you should be able to buy the oil H-D suggest,that way there's no question's if something does happen,,,if you want to go cheap,,go with a Rice Burner bike and buy the cheap oil,,,
Quote from: Jacob1955 on December 19, 2014, 05:06:35 AM
You all keep right on using all them off brand oils,,,my way of thinking if you can afford a bike especially a Hog,you should be able to buy the oil H-D suggest,that way there's no question's if something does happen,,,if you want to go cheap,,go with a Rice Burner bike and buy the cheap oil,,,
You forget that not everyone has a dealer in their backyard so other options for oil is a good thing. also why pay more for a product than you have too? I don't know what Syn3 sells for, $11.00+ a quart and I can buy Mobil1 for less than $5.00 a quart. So I save $15.00 per engine oil change. Also the comment cheap oil doesn't fly very far, many of the various oils discussed are quality oils, perhaps even higher quality than HD Syn3. Rice burner? Many "rice burners" are pretty high quality bikes. I would like to see HD build a bike that could live running up against a 12,000 RPM red line continually, or have some stunter beat the hell out of it and keep on ticking. The import bikes are just built for a different market, different style, the quality is still there.
When you bought your HD did you shop around and pay the
highest price you could find? :potstir: :hyst:
Quote from: Jacob1955 on December 19, 2014, 05:06:35 AM
You all keep right on using all them off brand oils,,,my way of thinking if you can afford a bike especially a Hog,you should be able to buy the oil H-D suggest,that way there's no question's if something does happen,,,if you want to go cheap,,go with a Rice Burner bike and buy the cheap oil,,,
That kind of logic is what HD wants. If they suggest it...you buy it. :koolaid: For the most part, when they suggest their oil...it is because the are making $$$. If it makes you sleep better at night, buy their oil. Personally, I am using Rotella T6 5w-40 in my TC and Evo. I stock up when NAPA sells the gallon container for $19.99. When was the last time you heard of an engine failure where the oil was the underlying problem that led to the failure? My tires don't say H-D on the sidewalls either. Your comment about the Rice Burners/oil...well...is somewhat naïve.
Well, despite the title to the discussion, it has evolved into an oil debate anyway. Surprise.
Well said, Hoss
Yarddog
:missed:
It is Kinda like what GMR Steve said to me in one of My threads asking for No Oil Debate..... (close quote) " Bubbie, It is Winter Time,,,, so good luck with That request... :hyst: :hyst: :hyst:
signed....BUBBIE
A shop could put 4 quarts of 4 different brands same wt. for 50k miles in your bike and you and the engine would never know it. Syn. or conventional or a mix.
Quote from: clawdog60 on December 19, 2014, 06:21:40 AM
A shop could put 4 quarts of 4 different brands same wt. for 50k miles in your bike and you and the engine would never know it. Syn. or conventional or a mix.
Heck, I have done that myself, traveling with an oil burner! Got the oil burning problem cured and rode a couple thousand more miles on the oil "blend".
I think when the u.s. mandated oils be equal,the brand thing went out the window.
Quote from: clawdog60 on December 19, 2014, 10:37:08 AM
I think when the u.s. mandated oils be equal,the brand thing went out the window.
its all personal preference. I buy syn for $4.00 bucks or so a quart at local jobber supply. you can pay for a brand or pay for oil. as noted, ever hear of oil being the cause? never, unless it didn't have any and then it doesn't matter what 'brand/high dollar' oil was in it. :soda:
Quote from: clawdog60 on December 19, 2014, 06:21:40 AM
A shop could put 4 quarts of 4 different brands same wt. for 50k miles in your bike and you and the engine would never know it. Syn. or conventional or a mix.
Exactly :up: :up: :up: :up:
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/gnm109/BonoboA_zps5eb68f85.jpg)
It'll run hot if you mix "his" & "hers" K-Y. :wink: -Rick
Quote from: 04 SE DEUCE on December 19, 2014, 07:17:21 PM
It'll run hot if you mix "his" & "hers" K-Y. :wink: -Rick
As long as you Stick with this Combination, You will be fine........ :potstir:
Quote from: 04 SE DEUCE on December 19, 2014, 07:17:21 PM
It'll run hot if you mix "his" & "hers" K-Y. :wink: -Rick
just the way I like it to run :smilep:
And if it hasn't been said in this tread: The MoCo gets their oil from the lowest bidder.
Quote from: Jacob1955 on December 19, 2014, 05:06:35 AM
You all keep right on using all them off brand oils,,,my way of thinking if you can afford a bike especially a Hog,you should be able to buy the oil H-D suggest,that way there's no question's if something does happen,,,if you want to go cheap,,go with a Rice Burner bike and buy the cheap oil,,,
There is absolutely nothing special about HD oil. There are plenty of oil analysis that show what is in it. No big secret formula.