Several Kits out there for bikes and cars.
Kuryakyn and HD kits are out there in price over $500
Then you have the conversion kits.
Bi/Xenon (High and Low beam one bulb) are $180 online with Phillips bulbs you can get Xanchuman chinese bulbs for less on ebay ($70 or so)
Having an RG I'm thinking of going HID Low beam only, very bright white light, about $225 for two Phillips bulbs, ballasts etc.
Other choice is to go Bi-xenon it adds some wiring to power (no big deal) but the guys at the Xenon said the high beam is't that great of an improvement over low beam like on a normal H4 Halogen. IE you don't see a big difference.
Anyone done this, had HID on the car, great stuff...
Here is a picture of a Kawi sport bike with the low beam units only..
(http://www.kbcarstuff.com/photos/Kawasaki%20Ninja%20ZX-9R%204300K-2.jpg)
I did my EG over a year ago with one of the kits. Never have any problems with it at all. Very bright, no high beams, buddies dont like to ride in front of me. Sold the other bulb for the price of the set to a guy that wanted one. No regrets at all.
Mix
chinese kit is just fine. Where do you think they make all of them anyway.
:pop:
Do HID bulbs hold up better under vibration than standard bulbs do?
I have been interested in these for a truck and my bike. I wrote Daniel Stern and got his opinion. It wasn't what I wanted to hear but then again I appreciate honesty and someone that has spent a lot of time researching, experimenting and testing systems. He did put me on the right track on how to improve the truck with a relay system, different lights and all the Ford numbers to get the headlight buckets, adjusters and wiring. I have a reflector for my Road King I bought from him along with the Osram bulbs. My last bulb finally gave out and I ordered two of the Osram 70/65's to try out. This lighting is excellent and I have not seen anything better to date. It is not the nice white light but there is alot more of it and it doesn't blind oncoming traffic. I am night blind and need all the light I can get but I don't want a ticket for some HID that blinds oncoming traffic.
L-
I got the Kuryakyn HID kit a couple of years ago on my RK Custom. Of all the stuff I've done over the years to all of my bikes, I would miss this one the most if I had to give it back. A couple of reasons:
This thing turns night into day on dark rural roads
During the day, nobody misses me. During bike week in a crowd of hundreds of bikes, my buddies can spot me in their rear view mirrors
Kuryakyn warrantys the unit for life. They are already good about fixing their "non-warranteed" stuff so I am confident they'd stand behind this one
Sure, it's pricey but if I had to pick, I'd trade it for my 95" kit, heads and cams any day - and those cost me many times what this light did.
HID is better because it has no element to vibrate and break.
Quote from: Harley_Nel on April 01, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
I got the Kuryakyn HID kit a couple of years ago on my RK Custom. Of all the stuff I've done over the years to all of my bikes, I would miss this one the most if I had to give it back. A couple of reasons:
This thing turns night into day on dark rural roads
During the day, nobody misses me. During bike week in a crowd of hundreds of bikes, my buddies can spot me in their rear view mirrors
Kuryakyn warrantys the unit for life. They are already good about fixing their "non-warranteed" stuff so I am confident they'd stand behind this one
Sure, it's pricey but if I had to pick, I'd trade it for my 95" kit, heads and cams any day - and those cost me many times what this light did.
Totally agree! I also bought the Kury HID a couple of years ago. It's the best $400+ investment I've made in my motorcycle, bar none. The system is made for motorcycles, which is an advantage over conversion kits that use the stock reflector.
$400.00???? holy crap. I would put my generic HID up against any Kuryakyn unit any day, for brightness or clearity. Just go with the generic H4 bulb HID kit, save yourself about $300.00.
:wtf:
Quote from: Mix01FLHT on April 01, 2009, 08:06:15 PM
$400.00???? holy crap. I would put my generic HID up against any Kuryakyn unit any day, for brightness or clearity. Just go with the generic H4 bulb HID kit, save yourself about $300.00.
:wtf:
I went through two different conversion kits plus the Harley Davidson HID before buying the Kuryakyn. Maybe the conversion kits are better now, be each had drawbacks when I tried 'em. (they were all hi/low capable).
People pay $400 or more for a set of shocks to replace perfectly good HD shocks. I put my money in the best HID available. I'm happy.
Ken
Quote from: Ken R on April 02, 2009, 06:27:16 AM
Quote from: Mix01FLHT on April 01, 2009, 08:06:15 PM
$400.00???? holy crap. I would put my generic HID up against any Kuryakyn unit any day, for brightness or clearity. Just go with the generic H4 bulb HID kit, save yourself about $300.00.
:wtf:
I went through two different conversion kits plus the Harley Davidson HID before buying the Kuryakyn. Maybe the conversion kits are better now, be each had drawbacks when I tried 'em. (they were all hi/low capable).
People pay $400 or more for a set of shocks to replace perfectly good HD shocks. I put my money in the best HID available. I'm happy.
You mean the best name available. HID's all made in china. Kuryakyn doesn't make anything themselves, just like everyone else they buy from china and put their name on it.
Ken
WEll, although I didn't buy it for the name (it's the only Kury-branded component on my motorcycle), it has proven to be the best performer. I removed and replaced the previous three HID systems within months of installing them. (Removed and replaced the Harley Davidson HID within 2 days . . . it was horrible)
And as much as I'd like for things to be made in the good ole USA, that's not the way of the world now.
Ken
Quote from: Mix01FLHT on April 02, 2009, 06:40:27 AM
Quote from: Ken R on April 02, 2009, 06:27:16 AM
Quote from: Mix01FLHT on April 01, 2009, 08:06:15 PM
$400.00???? holy crap. I would put my generic HID up against any Kuryakyn unit any day, for brightness or clearity. Just go with the generic H4 bulb HID kit, save yourself about $300.00.
:wtf:
I went through two different conversion kits plus the Harley Davidson HID before buying the Kuryakyn. Maybe the conversion kits are better now, be each had drawbacks when I tried 'em. (they were all hi/low capable).
People pay $400 or more for a set of shocks to replace perfectly good HD shocks. I put my money in the best HID available. I'm happy.
You mean the best name available. HID's all made in china. Kuryakyn doesn't make anything themselves, just like everyone else they buy from china and put their name on it.
Ken
Ken I knew you had the Kuryakyn, and I"ve seen them at the bike events but they require not only the extra moola, (not a problem if it's good I'm there) but you have to add on a bunch of bits and it's all for the ultra, king models
For me with an RG I'd have to buy two kits at $400+ so somewhere between $800 and a Grand, no thanks.
I can get a top level HID conversion for cars (only difference is the length of the wires) with Phillips (German made) bulbs (not everything is chinlee) or save a few bucks and get non Phillips.
These are the guys that a lot of Beemer riders get the lights from, Xenon Light Site[/url]
The newer kits seem to have a better bulb system too.
Have to decide if all low or hi/lo is the way to go ... (http://www.kbcarstuff.com/Motorcycle_Xenon_HID_Conversion_Kits_s/34.htm)
Steve, my kit from California Phil was complete . . ..nothing else needed to be added.
But if I had a RoadGlide, I'd be going conversion, too. I'm not sure if RG's headlights are both dual beam or if one is for low and adds the other for high. That's the way I've seen several sport bikes. The conversions would be especially good if that's the way RG's headlights work.
By the way, one thing I found with conversion kits is that a curious film forms on the reflector. I don't know how or why, but it does. Maybe it's the UV coming from the HID that causes oxidation or something. Dunno. But with one conversion kit, I was pulling the capsule and cleaning the reflector every month or so (through the little hole). The Kury-branded HID has been on for more than two years. . . .no film yet.
Oh, and I installed conversion kits in my Nissan Titan over a year ago. They're working just fine. I'm certainly not anti-conversion kit minded. . . . just didn't have great satisfaction with the ones that I tried on my Ultra. Didn't really expect the Kury-branded HID to be any better . . . . but so far it has been.
Ken
Quote from: hotroadking on April 02, 2009, 08:27:50 AM
Ken I knew you had the Kuryakyn, and I"ve seen them at the bike events but they require not only the extra moola, (not a problem if it's good I'm there) but you have to add on a bunch of bits and it's all for the ultra, king models
For me with an RG I'd have to buy two kits at $400+ so somewhere between $800 and a Grand, no thanks.
I can get a top level HID conversion for cars (only difference is the length of the wires) with Phillips (German made) bulbs (not everything is chinlee) or save a few bucks and get non Phillips.
These are the guys that a lot of Beemer riders get the lights from, Xenon Light Site[/url]
The newer kits seem to have a better bulb system too.
Have to decide if all low or hi/lo is the way to go ...
(http://www.kbcarstuff.com/Motorcycle_Xenon_HID_Conversion_Kits_s/34.htm)
Ken
I meant that Kuryakyn has more parts you need to install because the reflector they sell is very deep, didn't you have to put on the big wide ring between the housing and the trim on the existing light, the ones at the Kuryakyn booth have that "spacer".
Both bulbs are Hi/lo on the RG.
I'll ask them about that film, I do know the new conversion kits have a UV coating of some sort...
They manufacture their products in Germantown,Wisconsin. www.jwspeaker.com/case_studies_home.htm They make a 7" H.I.D headlight and H.I.D par-36 replacement spots................ :up:
It's been a while Steve, but I'm pretty sure that the ring came with the kit. I don't believe I ordered it separately. The kits are less than $400 now, it appears.
Holy cow, look at this price:
http://shopping.msn.com/specs/kuryakyn-xe7r-7in-hid-headlamp/itemid769647464/?itemtext=itemname:kuryakyn-xe7r-7in-hid-headlamp (http://shopping.msn.com/specs/kuryakyn-xe7r-7in-hid-headlamp/itemid769647464/?itemtext=itemname:kuryakyn-xe7r-7in-hid-headlamp)
Ken
Quote from: hotroadking on April 02, 2009, 10:28:02 AM
Ken
I meant that Kuryakyn has more parts you need to install because the reflector they sell is very deep, didn't you have to put on the big wide ring between the housing and the trim on the existing light, the ones at the Kuryakyn booth have that "spacer".
Both bulbs are Hi/lo on the RG.
I'll ask them about that film, I do know the new conversion kits have a UV coating of some sort...
That is REALLY cheap. $196.00. That is worth trying for that amount. I really like my <$100 Daniel Stearn set. Less parts to go out, light bulbs are available and it is still a lot less and it is great light.
L-
Quote from: L- on April 03, 2009, 04:23:33 AM
That is REALLY cheap. $196.00. That is worth trying for that amount. I really like my <$100 Daniel Stearn set. Less parts to go out, light bulbs are available and it is still a lot less and it is great light.
L-
you get what you pay for! www.jwspeaker.com made in the usa
JW looks nice but it's double the cost, same parts and won't fit my RG
Ken yes I knew the part came with it just saying you have to put on an additional part for that lens to fit due to the depth of the lens housing.
The softail one is a strange eyeball setup LOL
I'm going with the Phillips based low beam only kit, I can always upgrade to Hi/Lo if needed.
have a look here. i have them on two tr's.
http://www.xenonlink.com/H4+Bi-Xenon+HID+Kit/H4+Bi-Xenon+6000K/H4+Bi-Xenon+6000K+Automobile+HID+Kit.html
i know it says auto, but a tr has two. the complete kit too.
Tryed to order from that web site. After having the check out go to "your cart is empty" after finishing in-putting all the info for shipping I finally contact them. They say "sold out and IT guys did not get around to removing that product from the list".
Screw them!
mark61
Quote from: Ken R on April 02, 2009, 04:38:28 PM
It's been a while Steve, but I'm pretty sure that the ring came with the kit. I don't believe I ordered it separately. The kits are less than $400 now, it appears.
Holy cow, look at this price:
http://shopping.msn.com/specs/kuryakyn-xe7r-7in-hid-headlamp/itemid769647464/?itemtext=itemname:kuryakyn-xe7r-7in-hid-headlamp (http://shopping.msn.com/specs/kuryakyn-xe7r-7in-hid-headlamp/itemid769647464/?itemtext=itemname:kuryakyn-xe7r-7in-hid-headlamp)
Ken
For less than $200, I'd be all over that deal!!!! I spent over $500 on mine when it was bleading edge a few years ago.
I have a RK Custom and I did need the extension ring that I've seen mentioned. It came with the kit but I like how it makes my nacelle appear longer.
Quote from: mark61 on April 03, 2009, 05:12:27 PM
Tryed to order from that web site. After having the check out go to "your cart is empty" after finishing in-putting all the info for shipping I finally contact them. They say "sold out and IT guys did not get around to removing that product from the list".
Screw them!
mark61
They seem like a pretty good company with some absolute bargains. I bought a set of American Wire Wheel brake rotors from them Friday. Half price and free FedEx shipping; should be here tomorrow.
It's not surprising that they sold out of half-priced Kury HID headlight kits. I imagine that as soon as word got out, they disappeared off the shelves pretty quickly.
I got the H4 Phillips car kit ordered for my RG and got the low beam kit only.
Be interesting to see how it does, I'll try and remember to get before and after shots.
Did you ever install them?
I bought a set for a car a year or so back. Both bulbs would fit into the EG just fine (even though the locking tabs were not exactly the same). The HID is much better for sure. Keep in mind that they are illegal to use in a retrofit fashion. For that reason, I went with the pure white one to not stand out as much.
Quote from: L- on April 03, 2009, 04:23:33 AM
That is REALLY cheap. $196.00. That is worth trying for that amount. I really like my <$100 Daniel Stearn set. Less parts to go out, light bulbs are available and it is still a lot less and it is great light.
L-
What items/parts did you get from Daniel Stearn?
I'm glad someone else has tried HID and gave some feed back I have spent enough money on bulbs and
reflectors to buy a HID set up including stuff from Daniel Stearn ended up going to a modified version
of the stock set up it. I have been looking at the Kuryakyn HID set up for a few years.... now that I have
heard some good feed back I will be buying it soon as I get the dough
Quote from: crazy joe on July 09, 2009, 08:45:07 PM
I'm glad someone else has tried HID and gave some feed back I have spent enough money on bulbs and
reflectors to buy a HID set up including stuff from Daniel Stearn ended up going to a modified version
of the stock set up it. I have been looking at the Kuryakyn HID set up for a few years.... now that I have
heard some good feed back I will be buying it soon as I get the dough
In my opinion, the Kury is the best. I've had mine for going-on 3 years after trying several aftermarket and also several high-wattage incandescent bulbs. The HID has never failed. Not only is it awesomely bright, it also has a slightly bluish tint which draws attention. (so everyone tells me). That's a good thing.
Ken R when you say Kury do you mean Kuryakyn and how was the installation no problems
no modifications?
I am going with the Kuryakyn unit. I emailed them about this a few weeks ago. They said it was basically a plug and play operation. The light unit mechanically refocuses the beam and is actuated from the hi/low beam switch. The light itself is designed to be used in off road vehicles so it should hold up well in a motorcycle application.
Quote from: boooby1744 on April 02, 2009, 12:07:11 PM
They manufacture their products in Germantown,Wisconsin. www.jwspeaker.com/case_studies_home.htm They make a 7" H.I.D headlight and H.I.D par-36 replacement spots................ :up:
Don't buy that chinese crap,buy american!
03 Deuce,
I got a Bosch reflector and two bulbs a long, long time ago. I cannot find that receipt but will look at some files at work today for it. I like the 70/65 bulb and I don't endorse them but feel one can try them out and get their own opinion. My son 4wheels all the time and over the last 15 years we have done a lot of light systems and spent a lot of money on about everything out there for lights, charging systems etc. I don't need a $600 system that only performs a few percent points better than a $100 system.
Try contacting Daniel at: dastern@torque.net He is not BS'er and gives pretty hard opinions based on actual testing of lights and sytems. I am pretty sure there are better systems out there than years ago but he will know.
L-
Quote from: crazy joe on July 09, 2009, 09:02:27 PM
Ken R when you say Kury do you mean Kuryakyn and how was the installation no problems
no modifications?
It was a simple installation, well documented and no modifications required. It's worked flawlessy for several years now. It's not cheap, but well worth the money in my opinion. Yes, Kuryakyn sells the one I have.
Just to update
My RG kit is working great, rode last night in fact I kinda look for a reason to go out in the evening and ride LOL
Setup properly the road is well lit and I'm not getting that annoying flashes from oncoming cars.
I've also installed two more sets on Ultras, super simple.
There are a couple of ways to do it without spending the super high costs of Kuryakyn..
1) Get the H4 Low beam only kit and replace the stock H4 setup with the HID H4 Low only, the high beam or Dual Xenon HID is availalble but after doing it I can tell you, the difference from low to High on HID is insignificant. 95% of your light comes from the low beam.
2) Same for the newer H8/H11 HD setup (Dual bulb) get the H11 low beam kit, leave the splitter from HD in (H4 connector) and replace the H8 High beam bulb with a super white Putco bulb. Same thing, the low beam will do 95% of the work, the only reason to replace the H8 is because you want it to be white not yellow (compared to HID you'll see the yellow big time) and the High beam will do basically nothing for you to improve over the HID low beam.
3) You can go with a single H4 Dual Xenon/ Hi/lo on the stock HD lens, but it's really not worth the money but if it makes you feel better go for it.
JMO Option 2 is the best as the dual housing HD reflector is designed for HID... and the H11 Phillips bulb is superbright...
www.xenondepot.com, use the code BMWLT should drop about $30 off the price,
Tell Steve I sent you, it won't get you crap but It makes me look good,
BTW google Putco Superbrite white and get the H8 for the high,
if you have newer HD passing lamps those are 881's and Putco makes a superbrite white bulb, Silverstar doesn't make anything for h8, h11 or 881's
I think these HID motorcycle headlights will save lives. I ALWAYS notice cars or motorcycles coming towards me with the pinpoint bluish-tint headlights. They stand out amongst all the yellowish headlights. Course, the entire auto industry is going HID now. Won't be too long before everyone has 'em.
I guess our advantage will diminish then.
Ken
Hotroadking,
Which HID light did you get? 4300k or 6000k.
I've got a FLHR. Looks like I can order the car kit for the same price as the motorcycle kit and sell the other one to lower my final cost. I assume they are the same except for the length of the wires.
Thanks,
Bill
Quote from: 02rk4cruzin on July 10, 2009, 03:53:20 PM
Hotroadking,
Which HID light did you get? 4300k or 6000k.
I've got a FLHR. Looks like I can order the car kit for the same price as the motorcycle kit and sell the other one to lower my final cost. I assume they are the same except for the length of the wires.
Thanks,
Bill
He got the 4300k kit, Todd
Quote from: boooby1744 on April 02, 2009, 12:07:11 PM
They manufacture their products in Germantown,Wisconsin. www.jwspeaker.com/case_studies_home.htm They make a 7" H.I.D headlight and H.I.D par-36 replacement spots................ :up:
BUY AMERICAN.............The lens/reflector are engineered for the higher output.The plug annd play kits are bright,but the tradeoff is more errant light/glare.Get the real thing.
I am all for buying American and try to as much as possible. Just be aware that the Speaker unit is not a pure HID capsule. The high beam is Halogen. One of the main reasons I am changing is to get rid of the filiments.
The Kuryakyn product is from Valeo Sylvania. Valeo Sylvania has operations in Seymour, Indiana, Queretaro, Mexico and Dearborn, Michigan.
Seymour, Indiana is Valeo Sylvania's headquarters and also serves as a Manufacturing and Design and Development plant.
The plant in Queretaro Mexico has a strong focus on Manufacturing.
Dearborn Michigan's facility focus' on Local Design, Support Engineering and Sales Management.
I have seen the other products and done my homework on all of them and my (non-expert, but well educated) opinion is that the Kury product for under 200 bucks is a no-brainer. If you could personally view each of these products, like I did (not side-by-side, however) you'd be sold on the Xsighting HID light.
In my opinion, having HID for low beam and then incandescent for high beam is hookie and adds to the complexity of the installation.
You get this product (North American made) from Kuryakyn, a Wisconsin-based company that attends at least a dozen biker events per year - year after year - and they give you a lifetime warranty, which they will service, no questions asked via, email, phone or in-person at Daytona, Sturgis, Laconia, Loughlin, etc..
I'm not a stakeholder in any of these companies and I'm not making a penny from any sales of this stuff - I just know what works and would prefer to see less biker fatalities due to cagers not seeing us in time. That's all. you guys can debate this until the cows come home but honestly, I did the research and I bought this: http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/catID/8/scID/138/IMID/32 (http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/catID/8/scID/138/IMID/32). Paid close to $600 for it at the time but someone posted a link where you could get one for under $200. IF I bought a new bike and IF they were still selling these for 600 bucks, I wouldn't think twice about making this my first accessory, hands down.
Nelson
YEs the 4300K kit is the one to get..
Find a friend that wants to do it and split the kit...
is there a reason the kury akyn kit will not fit a fatboy ?
Quote from: moose on July 10, 2009, 06:15:36 PM
is there a reason the kury akyn kit will not fit a fatboy ?
I don't believe it'll fit in the bucket. The HID system also has a ballast. It's small, but has to be installed
somewhere. Kuryakyn HAS a light kit that will fit the bucket, but it's ugly. The one for FLHT's all fits inside the batwing.
Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 10, 2009, 05:08:33 PM
I am all for buying American and try to as much as possible. Just be aware that the Speaker unit is not a pure HID capsule. The high beam is Halogen. One of the main reasons I am changing is to get rid of the filiments.
The speaker unit is a pure hid,FOR LOW BEAM ONLY. Use your highbeam and wire the passing lamps (with narrow spots) and you will have plenty of light. the hid capsule puts out too much light for a lens/reflector designed for an h-4 bulb It will have too much glare. That glare is annoying(and unsafe) to oncoming traffic and reflects back at the rider in anyting less than cool dry night. caveat emptor.
Anyone know if the Kury kit for the touring bikes will fit on a FLST Softail with the Roadking nacelle on it? I agree with Ken R; the existing one is FUGLY.
Probably sick of the lighting thing but I have been digging around on the internet as I want to upgrade the '04 4Runner and the old Honda Civic. I am on the way to doing the '97 F-350 with a list of parts supplied to me. So I found some things, it is about 3 years old but worth a read.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954736
Osram now owns Sylvania
I looked hi I looked low and cant find the Kuryakyn XE7R 7IN HID HEADLAMP
for anything lower then 450.50 anyone got any ideas thanks
Drop Mark an email and see what kind of a price he can get you. Where did you get your quote from?
http://www.mandmcycles.com/
Online
Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 10, 2009, 05:08:33 PM
I am all for buying American and try to as much as possible. Just be aware that the Speaker unit is not a pure HID capsule. The high beam is Halogen. One of the main reasons I am changing is to get rid of the filiments.
What do you mean by Speaker unit and HID capsule Are you talking about the Kuryakyn unit?
Quote from: crazy joe on July 15, 2009, 07:56:42 PM
I looked hi I looked low and cant find the Kuryakyn XE7R 7IN HID HEADLAMP
for anything lower then 450.50 anyone got any ideas thanks
Try here:
http://www.motosport.com/street/product/KURYAKYN-XE7R-7in-HID-HEADLAMP/?catalogId=103963& (http://www.motosport.com/street/product/KURYAKYN-XE7R-7in-HID-HEADLAMP/?catalogId=103963&)
If I didn't already have one, I'd be all over this one!
Sold out I checked : (
Speaker was the company referenced in a previous post to this thread. I went to their website to see what they were offering. HID bulbs are referred to as capsules. I just wanted to point out that the light sold by Speaker is the hybrid type bulb using a hid/halogen source. I am not saying anything bad about it just stating what you are getting. The reason I am going to a HID light is to get rid of the filiments. So the Speaker unit is not for me as the Halogen portion uses a filiment. On a Deuce I don't have passing lights to rewire as was previously recommended. I am going with the Kuryakyn unit because the ballast is contained in the headlight unit so I don't have to try to find somewhere to mount it on my Deuce. If I wanted to deal with finding a place to hang the ballast I would probably get this:
http://www.kbcarstuff.com/Motorcycle_Xenon_HID_Conversion_Kits_s/34.htm
The Kuryakyn unit is a single capsule hid that mechanically refocuses the beam for hi and low beam functions. I have never seen one operate so I can not comment on how effective they are yet.
From what I have read here the Kuryakyn is a good unit I have been looking at them for a few
years but could not get any feedback till now Lets hope its as good as it looks these eyes need
some help at night : )
Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 15, 2009, 08:41:41 PM
Speaker was the company referenced in a previous post to this thread. I went to their website to see what they were offering. HID bulbs are referred to as capsules. I just wanted to point out that the light sold by Speaker is the hybrid type bulb using a hid/halogen source. I am not saying anything bad about it just stating what you are getting. The reason I am going to a HID light is to get rid of the filiments. So the Speaker unit is not for me as the Halogen portion uses a filiment. On a Deuce I don't have passing lights to rewire as was previously recommended. I am going with the Kuryakyn unit because the ballast is contained in the headlight unit so I don't have to try to find somewhere to mount it on my Deuce. If I wanted to deal with finding a place to hang the ballast I would probably get this:
http://www.kbcarstuff.com/Motorcycle_Xenon_HID_Conversion_Kits_s/34.htm
The Kuryakyn unit is a single capsule hid that mechanically refocuses the beam for hi and low beam functions. I have never seen one operate so I can not comment on how effective they are yet.
Thumper; you may need a larger bucket for the kuryakyn unit.Remember the jw speaker unit was engineered from scrartch as an hid unit. My buddy has tried them all. The speaker unit throws a longer wider beam than the others.Thump,how often are you gonna use the hidgh beam? Btw,the speaker is only made in 7"
The kuryakyn unit comes as a complete unit to replace the headlight assembly. I would kind of like to put a longer headlight can on the Deuce anyway to have the lines of the front end flow a little more. How often will I use the high beam? I don't know but when I do I want it to work. The two reasons I am going with the Kuryakyn unit are 1) I don't want to have to locate the ballast remotely somewhere on the frame, and 2) I don't want any filiments in the bulbs. I am removing the balancers from my 'b' engine this winter and am trying to remove anything that may fail as a result of the increased vibrations.
Quote from: crazy joe on July 15, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
From what I have read here the Kuryakyn is a good unit I have been looking at them for a few
years but could not get any feedback till now Lets hope its as good as it looks these eyes need
some help at night : )
Trust me, the Kuryakyn is a great headlight for Electra Glides. Their HID cost about the same as a set of Progressive 440 shocks, but does so much more! Everyone comments on my visibility, day or night. Call California Phil and see what he can do for you. It's where I got mine 3 years ago. It's where I buy just about all my aftermarket parts, tires, etc. Phil is a good man and runs a good shop.
http://www.harleypartscheap.com/index.htm
Call Jenni and give her the Drag Specialty # 2001-0264 For the Kuryakin unit and see what she can do. 20% off as a rule.
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Get a friend that wants to share
got to www.xenondepot.com
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get the h4 car kit, split it, $90 each for one ballast, wires, relay, and H4 Phillips bulb low beam only.
Simple to wire in, run the power for the ballast (fused link to relay) back to the battery for good clean power.
Run the ground to any good ground,
Everything else is plug and play.
With spots the low beam is more than enough, I have the Lo/Hi bulb, basically there is a 5% difference between low and high, if that...
You can split the Hi'lo kit if you feel the need to have a high and low beam, but JMO not worth the bucks.
No reason to dump $500 for the kuryakyn kit, it's not a bad kit, and the price isnt bad when you add in the nacielle extension, light housing, ballast, bulbs wires.
But you don't need it, HD's new reflectors and even some of the olderones put out a good beam pattern.
IF you have the HD Dual bulb (CVO) then you can get the H11 kit for the low beam, split it about the same $90 cost, and drop in a whiter high beam halogen, again it's just gonna be for show as the Phillips Low beams in the HID HD Dual bulb are very bright and give off a ton of light.
Kuryakyn has a softail kit, it uses a different projector beam bulb, good stuff but fugly.
Wish I had seen this post in April MotoSport has sold out the Kuryakyn unit
I have spent close to 400.00 in reflectors and bulbs looking for a good light
(even Daniel Stern) Ended up using stock reflectors & PIAA bulbs
But I want HID I have driven Autos with HID and it was almost like day were the light hit
even went as far as cover one side and it still lit up the road (on the car) If i knew for sure
one of the less expensive kits would work I Might buy them but the Kuryakyn has a warranty
and has been recommend by more the one person. Any other places to look the the KURY unit
380.00 is the best I have been able to find. Thanks for the input
I just installed hids on my road king 2 days ago, with the 4300k kit from xenon depot, I will try to get some before and after pictures up tonight, It is unbelievable the amount of light these things put out, I wish I would have done it long ago. Todd
Joe,
I have these from xenon depot on 4 bikes, two ultras, a road glide and a 98 road king, I will put it on
my 00 Heritage when it cools off enough in the garage for me to want to sit out there...
So far EVERY one of the riders has seen an improvement (I own the 09 RG) it is a MAJOR improvement
The two ultras have the HD dual bulb kit already, that way they just need the low beam HID, and still keep the halogen high, but frankly the halogen high beam is like a fart in a whirlwind, worthless... as the HID low stays lit on that kit.
Todd just validated it.
These guys sell to the sportbike crowd all the time.
The RK has a good ol tribar old kuryakyn lens.
My RG has the stock HD lens
It's the bomb..
Ok so whats part# would I use I see they have different K ratings Will it have all the goodies
I need to install on a 03 EG (if its what I'm looking for 2nd one will go on a 98 RK) What kind
of warranty does it have? And I'm sorry for all the questions but what is the difference between
the one from XenonDepot and the one from Kuryakyn (Kuryakyn has more info so I can see
what I'm buying) Thank you so much for replying to my questions
Check but I believe the 03 and the 98 are both H4 bulbs so you want
4300K Phillips bulbs Low beam only automotive kit (two of everything)
Go to Xenon Depot (http://www.xenondepot.com)
Click on HID Kits on the menu bar
Then the top picture of the HID kits HID Xtreme Kits in the window
4300 Xtreme HID
The kit is p/n XT-4k-9006 9006 / HB4 4300k Xtreme Xenon HID Conversion Kit $199.99
Use the code BMWLT it should give you a discount when you order online.
Because you have an Ultra and an RK what I would do is call and ask for Steve (he's a bit hard to get a hold of) but tell him I sent you and you want to order the car kit but you are going to split the kit on two bikes, your Ultra and RK.
Tell him you need the car ballast for the Ultra (shorter wire so less wires in faring) and
that you want the motorcycle ballast (same ballast but 6 foot wire) for the RK
The reason is on the RK you can hide the ballast under one of the side panels, or inside the frame under the seat in that open area, somewhere back on the bike. It's not huge but you don't want to hide it in the nacelle, Positive power to battery, ground to frame.
The longer wire is insulated, I simply snaked it up under the tank on the right side of the frame under the nacelle for the light to connect to, zip tied it to the existing harness. It's very easy to do. You'll need some heavy duty velcro as well to hold the two bits that will fit into the nacele (relay and connector to light). It's all about positioning parts, and it's pretty easy to do..
I'd take some pictures but that bike is now up in Traverse City MI
On the Ultra you can put the ballast right on top of the radio, velcro and zip tie it to the bike.
run the wires to the proper connector and position and zip tie it.
I velcro'd and zipped the relay in position. Once you see the stuff it's easy..
Just plug n play.
BTW on the Ultra you want to run the red fused ballast power wire back to the positive terminal on the battery, that can go under the tank from the faring on the Ultra, it's simple.
No cutting is needed to do this install it's all position, plug, n play....
This is basically what you get
2 ballasts
2 harness connectors with Relay
2 HID Bulbs (be sure to ask him for phillips)
That big box on the right in the image is not part of the kit just the stuff to the left.
Remember 1 bike ballast and 1 car ballast, he'll do that for you.
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I just realized a potential problem with the Kuryakyn setup for a softail. Since the capsule mechanically changes the shape of the beam from a single hid source if it burns out while your on the road at night you have no backup source for lighting. This is making me re-think the bi-xenon setup. You would have a back up to use, either the unburned out hi or low beam, until you got home. The odds are pretty small that it would happen, but if it did it would be very inconvenient. I suppose the alternative would be to carry an exta capsule with you.
Quote from: ThumperDeuce on July 17, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
I just realized a potential problem with the Kuryakyn setup for a softail. Since the capsule mechanically changes the shape of the beam from a single hid source if it burns out while your on the road at night you have no backup source for lighting. This is making me re-think the bi-xenon setup. You would have a back up to use, either the unburned out hi or low beam, until you got home. The odds are pretty small that it would happen, but if it did it would be very inconvenient. I suppose the alternative would be to carry an exta capsule with you.
I gotta think that HID capsule would last longer than the bike under most circumstances. Certainly, it would last longer than a bulb with a filiment.
If you're that paranoid about something like that happenning, why don't you just throw a flashlight and some duct tape in your saddlebag?
I am embarrased to admit that I did think of that. I am kind of a paranoid ( ie anal ) about this stuff. So what is the rated number of hours these are good for? Google is your friend.
They are rated for 2500 to 3000 hours. Also it seems that I was wrong and that all the bi-xenon capsules are single source and refocus the beam mechanically for hi and low beams, so my previous post does not resolve the issue anyway. You need to track the numbers of hours on the light.
Here are some pics, the first one is my halogen low and the second one is HID low, notice how many more median lines you can see with the HIDs, I have more pics but I am sure I will have to have multiple posts to get them on here. I went with a h11 kit from Xenon Depot. I had to use the h11 kit because I have the dual beam halogen lens from Harley, which is made by JW speaker and is the same one Harley uses for their HID kit, you cant even tell that it is not a Harley HID setup, plus the Harley kit is DOT approved so this one using a HID lens should be also, Todd
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Here are pics of the halogen high and the HID high, notice there is not much difference between high beam HID and low beam HID from my first post, that is because on high it just adds the halogen h8 and the HID pretty much covers it up
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Here are pictures of halogen high with passing lamps on and HID high with passing lamps on, I have my passing lamps tipped out a little to light up the side of the road, notice I have done the passing lamp mod which keeps my passing lamps on while high beam is on
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Here are some pictures of the front of my bike, the first one is halogen low, the second one is HID low, all in all I am very pleased with this setup and would recommend it to anyone, and I feel it will help with night time driving tremendously, Todd
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hot rod
did the kit you got have the phillips bulbs ?
you said to tell steve you said to call whats your first name?
thanks
Duke: yes,very bright,but too much glare..................can't see the turn signals.
Interesting observation
Part of that glare is probably due to the white towel laying on top of the fender, I put that on when I was installing the headlamp in case I dropped anything so I wouldn't ding it up,I was so excited to check out my new bright light I didnt even take it off before I got pictures, I will try and get a new picture and see if that is any better, Todd
Moose, my name is Steve, in FL
Not that it will do you any good but
he's been through it with me on several orders.
BTW, I know you guys saw the glare but it could be the setting on the camera
Here are the two images of my HID, duals too, so it's twice the light, you can see the turn signals,
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View from the seat
man that lawn greenup stuff I'm using really works LOL
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