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Title: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: jamn on November 12, 2016, 03:01:51 PM
I have a 2010 FLHTK with Rush TD's, re-cored Stock Mufflers to 2", K&N AC, and a Dynojet Tuner. The bike runs great but I'd like to upgrade the Cams this winter. I'm looking for Low to Mid range torque. I see allot of the recommendations out there are for the 2 into 1 or the X-Pipe, I'm keeping the TD's. I love the sound.

Thanks
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Ohio HD on November 12, 2016, 03:36:22 PM
T-man 555 torqster or Andrews 48's will give great low and mid range.


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Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Matt C on November 12, 2016, 03:46:40 PM
Stock heads? 48s
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: rigidthumper on November 12, 2016, 03:58:49 PM
TTS100.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: jamn on November 12, 2016, 06:02:57 PM
Yes...stock heads
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: 86fxwg on November 12, 2016, 07:36:06 PM
Second the 555 trq's

86
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Tommy D on November 12, 2016, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 12, 2016, 06:02:57 PM
Yes...stock heads

How bout a $100 new "take out" SE 255
I'm sure you can find one here from a fellow member
Tough power to beat for the money, IMO

RE: your recored mufflers...who's baffle & core size ?
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Matt C on November 12, 2016, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Tommy D on November 12, 2016, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 12, 2016, 06:02:57 PM
Yes...stock heads

How bout a $100 new "take out" SE 255
I'm sure you can find one here from a fellow member
Tough power to beat for the money, IMO

RE: your recored mufflers...who's baffle & core size ?

:emoGroan: :down:
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Frédéric CM on November 13, 2016, 02:04:26 AM
+1 for the 48H as bolt in, the 555TQ (or 57H) will need at lest a 0.030" HG
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Smarty on November 13, 2016, 05:30:48 AM
Quote from: Frédéric CM on November 13, 2016, 02:04:26 AM
+1 for the 48H as bolt in, the 555TQ (or 57H) will need at lest a 0.030" HG
If I were going to do the T-man, it would be the straight 555 with the .030 head gasket. Much better performer.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Tommy D on November 13, 2016, 06:07:47 AM
Quote from: MCE on November 12, 2016, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Tommy D on November 12, 2016, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 12, 2016, 06:02:57 PM
Yes...stock heads

How bout a $100 new "take out" SE 255
I'm sure you can find one here from a fellow member
Tough power to beat for the money, IMO

RE: your recored mufflers...who's baffle & core size ?

:emoGroan: :down:

Matt,

Wouldn't be my first choice either, but if a rider is looking for a nice bump in useable power the 255 for the price to be had gets the job done... especially if one is paying to have the work done. a true bolt in, I'd use the TTS 100
Any other's without pulling the heads is a waste of time & money IMO
Heck, Don posted a thread a while back in doing a basic street port on a bone stock TC was a nice improvement.

Ride on
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: jamn on November 13, 2016, 07:08:53 AM
Quote from: Tommy D on November 12, 2016, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 12, 2016, 06:02:57 PM
Yes...stock heads

How bout a $100 new "take out" SE 255
I'm sure you can find one here from a fellow member
Tough power to beat for the money, IMO

RE: your recored mufflers...who's baffle & core size ?

Mufflers are 2" Superflow from eBay.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: jamn on November 13, 2016, 07:13:38 AM
Sounds like the .030 HG should be done as well. Anybody like Red Shift cams?
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: turboprop on November 13, 2016, 07:18:23 AM
Quote from: jamn on November 13, 2016, 07:13:38 AM
Sounds like the .030 HG should be done as well. Anybody like Red Shift cams?

Love them!
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Matt C on November 13, 2016, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tommy D on November 13, 2016, 06:07:47 AM
Quote from: MCE on November 12, 2016, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Tommy D on November 12, 2016, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 12, 2016, 06:02:57 PM
Yes...stock heads

How bout a $100 new "take out" SE 255
I'm sure you can find one here from a fellow member
Tough power to beat for the money, IMO

RE: your recored mufflers...who's baffle & core size ?

:emoGroan: :down:

Matt,

Wouldn't be my first choice either, but if a rider is looking for a nice bump in useable power the 255 for the price to be had gets the job done... especially if one is paying to have the work done. a true bolt in, I'd use the TTS 100
Any other's without pulling the heads is a waste of time & money IMO
Heck, Don posted a thread a while back in doing a basic street port on a bone stock TC was a nice improvement.

Ride on

Basic street port on a stock motor is very effective. I tested that on a stock 95 a few years ago (performance valve job pocket port, and slight milling). If I remember correctly, it picked up 7/9.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: gonenorth on November 13, 2016, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: MCE on November 12, 2016, 03:46:40 PM
Stock heads? 48s

:agree:

:agree:Put 48s in my 2012 103, with 2-1-2 head pipes, Crusher Mellows and S&S Stealth breather.  Used a TTS tuner and really liked the results.  Good low-end torque and carried out pretty decent pulling strong past 5500 RPM.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: bluerim on November 13, 2016, 06:33:57 PM
I just sold my T100 cams and fulsac cat free   2-1-2 head pipes to a friend with a new 2016 glide.  The only reason I gave them up is because I now have a 2017 and cannot use them.  He just got a dyno tune with stock heads. He put in stage one and with my stuff he got 90 hp , 110 tq.  One happy camper.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: bluerim on November 13, 2016, 06:44:26 PM
I'll correct myself..    The T100 cam dyno report is for a 103. 
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Tattoo on November 14, 2016, 03:38:54 AM
another vote for Andrews 48 in a 96".
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: FLTR2008Trike on November 14, 2016, 05:27:56 AM
Great bolt in cam with proven performance >>

http://jwperf.com/products.html (http://jwperf.com/products.html)




Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: jamn on November 14, 2016, 01:14:39 PM
Thanks for all of the input gentlemen.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Tommy D on November 14, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 14, 2016, 01:14:39 PM
Thanks for all of the input gentlemen.

Which did you chooose ?
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Jaycee1964 on November 14, 2016, 02:11:17 PM
57's here.  Great cam
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: jamn on November 14, 2016, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Tommy D on November 14, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 14, 2016, 01:14:39 PM
Thanks for all of the input gentlemen.

Which did you chooose ?

I'm torn between the 48 and T100. I considered the 48 before this post but I thought you guys would have other opinions because I am using the TD's.

Is a good idea to do the .030 HG with either of these as well or will that affect their performance?
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: spdrcr on November 14, 2016, 06:44:06 PM
Go with the 48's. You will not be disappointed.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Tommy D on November 14, 2016, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 14, 2016, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Tommy D on November 14, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 14, 2016, 01:14:39 PM
Thanks for all of the input gentlemen.

Which did you chooose ?

I'm torn between the 48 and T100. I considered the 48 before this post but I thought you guys would have other opinions because I am using the TD's.

Is a good idea to do the .030 HG with either of these as well or will that affect their performance?

Is this the Rush headpipe you're running?
http://www.rushracingproducts.com/highoutput.html (http://www.rushracingproducts.com/highoutput.html)

& to be clear,,, a 96"r ?
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: PoorUB on November 14, 2016, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 14, 2016, 05:05:39 PM

Is a good idea to do the .030 HG with either of these as well or will that affect their performance?

I would not pull the heads just to replace the head gaskets with .030" gaskets. If you are pulling them to do other work, fine.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 04:03:36 AM
but a 48H with a 0.030" put it right in the ballpark ;)
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: jamn on November 15, 2016, 04:10:32 AM
Quote from: Tommy D on November 14, 2016, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 14, 2016, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Tommy D on November 14, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
Quote from: jamn on November 14, 2016, 01:14:39 PM
Thanks for all of the input gentlemen.

Which did you chooose ?

I'm torn between the 48 and T100. I considered the 48 before this post but I thought you guys would have other opinions because I am using the TD's.

Is a good idea to do the .030 HG with either of these as well or will that affect their performance?

Is this the Rush headpipe you're running?
http://www.rushracingproducts.com/highoutput.html (http://www.rushracingproducts.com/highoutput.html)

& to be clear,,, a 96"r ?

Rush TD with NO crossover. (non HO) And a 103"
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: spdrcr on November 15, 2016, 06:19:41 AM
Quote from: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 04:03:36 AM
but a 48H with a 0.030" put it right in the ballpark ;)

That's what I did to my 103 and 48 cams!
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 07:01:34 AM
Quote from: spdrcr on November 15, 2016, 06:19:41 AM
Quote from: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 04:03:36 AM
but a 48H with a 0.030" put it right in the ballpark ;)

That's what I did to my 103 and 48 cams!

:chop:

Do you have a dyno sheet to see ?
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: spdrcr on November 15, 2016, 08:11:21 AM
Quote from: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 07:01:34 AM
Quote from: spdrcr on November 15, 2016, 06:19:41 AM
Quote from: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 04:03:36 AM
but a 48H with a 0.030" put it right in the ballpark ;)

That's what I did to my 103 and 48 cams!

:chop:

Do you have a dyno sheet to see ?

Dyno Section. Page 2. 11 up from the bottom.
"2007 FXDWG 103 with 48's, and Slip-ons"
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,90007.0.html (http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,90007.0.html)

looks good !
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: spdrcr on November 15, 2016, 09:20:52 AM
Not bad for a Dyna!  :smiled:
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Barrett on November 15, 2016, 10:12:37 AM
Quote from: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,90007.0.html (http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,90007.0.html)

looks good !
"The heads had a ton of carbon build up and flaking powder coat that I cleaned up"

I pulled my heads just for the .030HG for my 37's. When I saw what they looked like I couldn't put them back on like they were. If you don't feel like gettin in too deep just do the cams for now.  :wink:
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: jamn on November 15, 2016, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: spdrcr on November 15, 2016, 08:11:21 AM
Quote from: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 07:01:34 AM
Quote from: spdrcr on November 15, 2016, 06:19:41 AM
Quote from: Frédéric CM on November 15, 2016, 04:03:36 AM
but a 48H with a 0.030" put it right in the ballpark ;)

That's what I did to my 103 and 48 cams!

:chop:

Do you have a dyno sheet to see ?

Dyno Section. Page 2. 11 up from the bottom.
"2007 FXDWG 103 with 48's, and Slip-ons"

That looks awesome, but I think I'm just going to do the 48 cams this winter. So, the next quest is, what is recommended for the rods and do I do the lifters too?
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: spdrcr on November 15, 2016, 05:17:46 PM
I used stock push rods because I changed to .030 HG. S&S lifters is what I used.
Title: Re: Looking for Cam Ideas
Post by: Larry64 on November 16, 2016, 04:26:34 AM
Quote from: Ohio HD on November 12, 2016, 03:36:22 PM
T-man 555 torqster or Andrews 48's will give great low and mid range.

What about S&S 551's in a touring bike?