Outer tensioner thoughts!

[86fxwg]

23000 miles with mobil 1,road easy completley stock.

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[86fxwg]

I Screwed that picture up

[FSG]

I Screwed that picture up

You think so ?   

[mkd]

judging from your picture i'd say your tensioners are gone! lol!!!

[moose]

those must be the new silent tensioners     

[Dogmeat]

THAT pic sure isn't worth "a thousand words!"
Did that pesky snow get in the way?

[86fxwg]

Well once if figure out how to compress them il re-post.Kinda lost in that department 

[Billy]

Check your pinion runout, my experience is more runout = more wear on the outer tensioner.

[86fxwg]

Another picture.

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[86fxwg]

Pinion .004.

[Admiral Akbar]

Check to make sure that the tensioner is assembled correctly.. Spring then piston then shoe.. valve on piston might be screwed up.. Looks like it might have taken heat.. Replace tensioner and chain.. Check how new chain tensioner operates.. I you can see the tensioner moving in an out while rotating the motor.. I'd look for an offset hole in either of the sprockets or sprocket not running straight.

Max

[HogMike]

 

I have a similar issue here. Bike has 30k miles. Went in to change cams. Run out is .006.
Checked sprocket alignment, chain, etc.
I think I'll check again in about 20k miles, just to see any wear differences. May replace chain and sprockets at that time, assuming I still own the bike at that time! LOL


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[hrdtail78]

What does the chain look like.  Wish you knew what it looked like when it was new?  I have nothing to support this, but I think a lot of the wear is happening right in the beginning.  Then you throw a new tensioner and a polished up chain (or broke in) and second set of tensioners last longer.

[HogMike]

What does the chain look like.  Wish you knew what it looked like when it was new?  I have nothing to support this, but I think a lot of the wear is happening right in the beginning.  Then you throw a new tensioner and a polished up chain (or broke in) and second set of tensioners last longer.

We'll see. This is the first hyd. tensioner setup I've been into, mostly work on "vintage" iron! Other spring loaded tensioners looked like quite a bit more wear, but, inconsistent vs. mileage.
Gimme about 6 months to put those miles on this setup and we'll take another look.

[CrazyRay]

Eh oh. Kind of makes me want to re-think the conversion on my '99. ? ? ? Keep us posted.

[FSG]

Check to make sure that the tensioner is assembled correctly.. Spring then piston then shoe..

[smoserx1]

Eh oh. Kind of makes me want to re-think the conversion on my '99. ? ? ? Keep us posted.

I converted my 99 back about 3 months ago.  The new tensioners ship with a little pin installed that holds everything together, and during shipment the pin of one of my tensioners had come out, so the pieces were loose in the bag.  I took the other one apart to see how it went, and later found illustrations like the one here.  It is real easy to get confused and put the spring inside the piston instead of between the piston and shoe where it belongs.  Evidently this will cause excessive wear.  When the tensioner is installed correctly it should have a slight spring pressure against the chain, even with no oil pressure.  Somehow I have a feeling there are lots of these things being installed assembled wrong.

[FSG]

Somehow I have a feeling there are lots of these things being installed assembled wrong.

[CrazyRay]

Ok thanks guys, that's good to know.

[HogMike]

Eh oh. Kind of makes me want to re-think the conversion on my '99. ? ? ? Keep us posted.

I converted my 99 back about 3 months ago.  The new tensioners ship with a little pin installed that holds everything together, and during shipment the pin of one of my tensioners had come out, so the pieces were loose in the bag.  I took the other one apart to see how it went, and later found illustrations like the one here.  It is real easy to get confused and put the spring inside the piston instead of between the piston and shoe where it belongs.  Evidently this will cause excessive wear.  When the tensioner is installed correctly it should have a slight spring pressure against the chain, even with no oil pressure.  Somehow I have a feeling there are lots of these things being installed assembled wrong.

You mean from the factory?

I would think the excessive wear on the outer shoe would have more to do with weak pressure against the chain or mis-aligned sprockets or excessive pinion run out.

[FSG]

You mean from the factory?

I do.

[HogMike]

You mean from the factory?

I do.

I took my old ones apart, they are assembled as the pictures above. Hmmmm.....since the replacements come from Germany, you think maybe there's a conspiracy??
Since this is the first Hyd unit I have fooled with, is there any feedback from others that see more wear on the outer vs. the inner??

[Admiral Akbar]

Check to make sure that the tensioner is assembled correctly.. Spring then piston then shoe..

I wrong..


OOps ,,

Max

[Admiral Akbar]

BTW,

getting old sucks,, If the spring is collapsed, the shoe would get chewed up..

Max

[FSG]

Max, we're all heading in the same direction, what is it they say, "No one get out of this gig alive".