B&M trick shift

[2006FXDCI]

Anyone running B&M trick shift with the newest version SE compensator ? I have always used formula + in it but use trick shift in my 5 speed bike . I really like the way the clutch feels with the ATF . Thanks for any replies

[dakota224]

I liked it in my 5 speed too, most I know are using Rotella 15W40 in primary these days. cheaper & real good too.

[joe_lyons]

Been using at in mine for 4k miles and its looking great.  Back and fourth from work at 30mi one way.

[2006FXDCI]

Thanks Joe ! I think im going to make the switch at the end of the riding season along with new frictions and steels .

[76shuvlinoff]

So are there different revisions of the B&M  (different additive packages)? Or is all B&M Trickshift the same?

I plan on opening my primary this morning before it get's so stupid hot and humid. I have been running good old Ford ATF for almost 1000 miles. I can take the opportunity to try something else just because.

Mark

[joe_lyons]

There is orig and synthetic.  Bandit says the synthetic does not work well with their clutches.

[2006FXDCI]

   I would personally only use the non synthetic .

[Mule]

I have used the B&M  trick shift in my sealed primary  on my shovelhead for years. The pro clutch requires ATF.

[76shuvlinoff]

A qt of "original" went in. I didn't see synthetic on the label.

Thanks

[2006FXDCI]

76 , yes original is the non synthetic . I use it in the primo clutch in my 5 speed bike but have been afraid to use it in my 6 speed bike . I have the newest version of the SE comp and wasnt sure if anyone with that setup had run ATF in it .

[Oclaf]

why does the SE comp factor in fluid that is "primarily" for the clutch...? or am I missing something...

[Jswerve]

why does the SE comp factor in fluid that is "primarily" for the clutch...? or am I missing something...

I believe it has to splash up on the compensator?

[1Canuck]

The label in back says original is type F, synthetic is dexron

[rbabos]

Keep in mind the comp requires a GL rated oil. SE versions even more so.  If someone uses fluids to make the clutch happy, expect a shorter comp life, plain and simple.  It's like throwing ATF in the differential of a dump truck and expecting it to last. It won't. Pre 07 comps were more tolerant due to dia and spring pressures and less overall internal movements so that's a different animal all together. Chose the fluid for your needs but expect a trade off between the comp and clutch. Both need different lube qualities so one fluid seldom makes both happy.
Ron

[Jswerve]

Keep in mind the comp requires a GL rated oil. SE versions even more so.  If someone uses fluids to make the clutch happy, expect a shorter comp life, plain and simple.  It's like throwing ATF in the differential of a dump truck and expecting it to last. It won't. Pre 07 comps were more tolerant due to dia and spring pressures and less overall internal movements so that's a different animal all together. Chose the fluid for your needs but expect a trade off between the comp and clutch. Both need different lube qualities so one fluid seldom makes both happy.
Ron

Ron thanks for explaining that. It's kind of a crap design. On one hand we want a smooth clutch, on the other we want a long compensator life. Trying to find a happy medium! 

I am currently running Mobil 1 4t 10w-40 in my primary. I can't find anything about it being GL rated oil on the data sheet? I really like the stuff though. Do you know if it is GL rated?

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAUSENPVLMOMobil_1_Motorcycle_Oils.aspx

[rbabos]

Keep in mind the comp requires a GL rated oil. SE versions even more so.  If someone uses fluids to make the clutch happy, expect a shorter comp life, plain and simple.  It's like throwing ATF in the differential of a dump truck and expecting it to last. It won't. Pre 07 comps were more tolerant due to dia and spring pressures and less overall internal movements so that's a different animal all together. Chose the fluid for your needs but expect a trade off between the comp and clutch. Both need different lube qualities so one fluid seldom makes both happy.
Ron

Ron thanks for explaining that. It's kind of a crap design. On one hand we want a smooth clutch, on the other we want a long compensator life. Trying to find a happy medium! 

I am currently running Mobil 1 4t 10w-40 in my primary. I can't find anything about it being GL rated oil on the data sheet? I really like the stuff though. Do you know if it is GL rated?

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAUSENPVLMOMobil_1_Motorcycle_Oils.aspx

Only two I know and have used is Formula+ and Amsoil 20/50 MCV. Both GL rated. Formula+ seemed a bit more clutch friendly between the two. Don't know about Mobil, Redline or other suitable primary fluids. I'm sure there are plenty of others as well.
Ron

[MaxxV4]

I have been using the Mobil 1 4t 10/40 since 5,000 miles. I now have almost 41,000 miles and the comp is still fairly quiet. (So far) 
BTW: 2012 FLHTK

[N-gin]

Would running trick shift cause the clutch to grab more? Or cause it not to grab so much..
I'm thinking of going to the golden 80w to see if it will lessen the "on or off" syndrome with my SE clutch.

[joe_lyons]

Would running trick shift cause the clutch to grab more? Or cause it not to grab so much..
I'm thinking of going to the golden 80w to see if it will lessen the "on or off" syndrome with my SE clutch.

Remove the last friction and replace with the stock half friction and dampner spring and seat and the on/off friction zone will be fixed.  Fluid will not fix that.

[rbabos]

Would running trick shift cause the clutch to grab more? Or cause it not to grab so much..
I'm thinking of going to the golden 80w to see if it will lessen the "on or off" syndrome with my SE clutch.

Remove the last friction and replace with the stock half friction and dampner spring and seat and the on/off friction zone will be fixed.  Fluid will not fix that.

I've never liked that piece of crap in there. Causes more damn plate separation grief the one needs.
Ron

[hrdtail78]

Only two I know and have used is Formula+ and Amsoil 20/50 MCV. Both GL rated.

And which GL rating should we be looking for?  There are several.

[rbabos]

Only two I know and have used is Formula+ and Amsoil 20/50 MCV. Both GL rated.

And which GL rating should we be looking for?  There are several.

GL4 but GL1 should be ok. Avoid any of the higher GL rated with EP additives.
Ron

[joe_lyons]

Would running trick shift cause the clutch to grab more? Or cause it not to grab so much..
I'm thinking of going to the golden 80w to see if it will lessen the "on or off" syndrome with my SE clutch.

Remove the last friction and replace with the stock half friction and dampner spring and seat and the on/off friction zone will be fixed.  Fluid will not fix that.

I've never liked that piece of crap in there. Causes more damn plate separation grief the one needs.
Ron

I haven't had issues.

[hrdtail78]

Anybody use the B&M Stick Shift?  It's GL rated.

[No Cents]

Anybody use the B&M Stick Shift?  It's GL rated.

I did...once.

Ray