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new Stage 4 motor not tuning good

Started by BlueFLHX12, March 15, 2015, 02:27:10 PM

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N-gin

#50
March 19, 2015, 05:31:30 AM
That is Fugly.
I would be pissed and demand my money back and go straight to Chad.
That tune is embarrassing. You can see they covered it up with split runs!
Hope you get things settled on this and look forward to seeing the new tune. Chad got 9HP more than my first tune.
I'm not here cause of a path before me, Im here cause of the burnout left behind

1FSTRK

#51
March 19, 2015, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: BlueFLHX12 on March 17, 2015, 04:03:52 PM
OK now Im a little nervous about switching  to the power duels Cary Faas Racing recommends dresser Duels with his slipons no X pipe Why?

You my want to PM Joe about them, he posted this in the dyno section.

http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,73308.msg799575.html#msg799575
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

Just Nick

#52
March 20, 2015, 10:31:19 AM
any updates
I'm never wrong , once I thought I was wrong , but I was wrong

BlueFLHX12

#53
March 20, 2015, 11:11:34 AM
They're tuning again today hope to get up there in a little bit

harleytuner

#54
March 20, 2015, 01:59:16 PM
We should get a pool going on this one.  Any takers?  Over/Under?

FLTRI

#55
March 20, 2015, 03:23:55 PM
Nope. With this one all bets are off with me. Lol
Bob
The best we've experienced is the best we know
Always keep eyes and mind open

BlueFLHX12

#56
March 20, 2015, 04:14:10 PM
they are still tuning ... and I'm not going to rush them they are using the smart tune now ... the new power duals did make 6 more hp...  just changing pipes before any tuning.

BlueFLHX12

#57
March 20, 2015, 05:10:57 PM Last Edit: March 20, 2015, 05:53:23 PM by Coyote
[attach=0] my Scoot

hrdtail78

#58
March 20, 2015, 05:18:40 PM
At this point I would be looking for smooth lines and let the numbers fall where they do.
Semper Fi

BlueFLHX12

#59
March 20, 2015, 05:20:56 PM
Yep and I told them I wanted SAE Not STD

strokerjlk

#60
March 20, 2015, 06:21:48 PM
Quote from: BlueFLHX12 on March 20, 2015, 04:14:10 PM
they are still tuning ... and I'm not going to rush them they are using the smart tune now ... the new power duals did make 6 more hp...  just changing pipes before any tuning.
make sure they  have your last "final map" saved to the VCI when  they are done. your gonna need it to try and salvage the tune when they are done.
if they cant get it right ,keep bugging them . they may have someone they can carry the bike to ,that knows what they are doing.
thats kinda the way it goes at some dealerships that have dyno's and cant tune. you bitch enough ,they take it somewhere and eat the expense "to make you happy" 
A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis
repeated testing establishes theory

koko3052

#61
March 21, 2015, 06:10:22 PM
Quote from: strokerjlk on March 20, 2015, 06:21:48 PM
Quote from: BlueFLHX12 on March 20, 2015, 04:14:10 PM
they are still tuning ... and I'm not going to rush them they are using the smart tune now ... the new power duals did make 6 more hp...  just changing pipes before any tuning.
make sure they  have your last "final map" saved to the VCI when  they are done. your gonna need it to try and salvage the tune when they are done.
if they cant get it right ,keep bugging them . they may have someone they can carry the bike to ,that knows what they are doing.
thats kinda the way it goes at some dealerships that have dyno's and cant tune. you bitch enough ,they take it somewhere and eat the expense "to make you happy" 
AS THEY SHOULD! :slap:

joe_lyons

#63
March 29, 2015, 07:43:46 PM
Hmmmm.  Granted I know the mufflers are not helping the whole ordeal but they should still be able to work that thing over a bit better than that.  You could ask them to hold a board over the left muffler from the beginning of the run until 3500 and see if the bottom picks up any more. 
Powerhouse Cycle & Dyno - Performance is our passion 816-425-4901

BlueFLHX12

#64
March 29, 2015, 07:50:07 PM
He did mention maybe trying that but I'm sure he didn't and I took them my 4 inch Rineharts to try if they wanted too But they didn't do that either mainly because I said I was going to run the CFRs anyway ... I'm thinking them Heads are too big for a 103 and the cam is a mid to high Rpm cam ... she does pull pretty damn hard over 3000 rpm

Just Nick

#65
March 29, 2015, 08:43:38 PM
They don't have a clue what they are doing get that thing to Chad (Harleytuner) and get it done correctly you are wasting your time with the dealer
I'm never wrong , once I thought I was wrong , but I was wrong

Coyote

#66
March 29, 2015, 08:47:51 PM
Quote from: Just Nick on March 29, 2015, 08:43:38 PM
They don't have a clue what they are doing get that thing to Chad (Harleytuner) and get it done correctly you are wasting your time with the dealer

:agree:   yuck

joe_lyons

#67
March 30, 2015, 05:39:23 AM
The 9b at around 11-1 should not be too much of a slouch.  Get your money and "Run for the hills, run for your life."
Powerhouse Cycle & Dyno - Performance is our passion 816-425-4901

1FSTRK

#68
March 30, 2015, 06:22:20 AM Last Edit: March 30, 2015, 07:29:13 AM by 1FSTRK
Look at the first graph you posted, you had a better tune from 2-3000 rpm on that graph then on the last one posted. Not a good tune but better. They are clearly lost. 
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

hrdtail78

#69
March 30, 2015, 08:18:18 AM
How are they sampling at WOT?
Semper Fi

hrdtail78

#71
March 30, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
They are using a DJ sensor.  Copper tubing stuck up the pipe, blocks, welded on bung.....?
Semper Fi

BlueFLHX12

#72
March 30, 2015, 12:57:35 PM
Tube stuck in the end of the pipe

joe_lyons

#73
March 30, 2015, 01:27:17 PM
Are they sampling both cyls?  The silly long front cyl can give some weird readings.  I suggest rivnuts in the head pipe.
Powerhouse Cycle & Dyno - Performance is our passion 816-425-4901

BlueFLHX12

#74
March 30, 2015, 01:42:49 PM
I just bought dynojet power vision and I'm going to have the 18mm bungs welded in the head pipes and do some Auto tuning to see if I can get it dialed in.
I don't care about the numbers so much as I do getting it to run the best it can
Craig
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