Nasty 110 Build

[TorQuePimp]

LOL, well Steve, already did that.  110 running a CR570 with a little head work, CR at 10:1.
Runs well, but looking for a little more.
Probably should have done 110.
I think we will try an SE585 next and if that doesn't do it maybe Tman600.
Not really ready to pump up the CR much.

You are barking up the wrong cam tree

Okay, ready to listen,  I have seen decent results from both of these?

Neither of those cams will get you anywhere near your own stated goal

and I cannot go too deep into what i think you should do here

[Matt C]

I have posted several of these up My FB page has all of them as its just easier to post them there. But Pipe will be crucial is having the tq curve you want . Forget about " the number" and enjoy the power of a kit that works.. Or just run it on a " lucky dyno " thats always good for a nice sheet 

Now, THAT'S funny!

[NHBagger]

Update..trike got the 110 with SE585s, SE58 and headwork for a 10:1 CR. Went 112/106 on the Dyno.
This past winter did a 117 with the same components except heads reworked to about 10.2:1. Based on the 110 results, guessing it would probably do about 120/115 if dyno'd.
Good runner but still not sure about the cam choice.
Looked at other 117 runs and looks like other choices are S&S570, GMR600, Tman 590 or 625, but some of these seem to like more compression.
Thoughts?

[harpwrench]

How about the v-thunder 3103

[Don D]

Got one going together now with our Pro heads but the wild card I am afraid of is the preexisting condition, the pipe. Bassani road rage 2 into 1, huge baffle only half way in the can. Very little experience with this pipe myself.

[NHBagger]

How about the v-thunder 3103
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Can't find many Dyno runs for these cams.

[838]

Just helped with a 117" build at 10.25:1 with hillside heads (purshased for a steal off ebay), 58mm Tb, rush wrath with the 2.5" baffle and an s&s 570. It went 131/127 (tuned on 89 octane) and the pull started at 90tq at 1750rpm... pulls hard to about 5700... I'll try and get the sheet for you. It's a perfect torque build and a blast to ride!'

[838]

Other cams mulled over were tts-150, cr575 and Andrews 54.

In a trike I might look cr575

[NHBagger]

Nice run, but 130/121 would probably only get me 125/115 which is about +5 tq. May not be enough bang for the buck.
May need a two where run that is more like 130/125 for me to get 125/120.

[Don D]

1.2 hp / cu in. , possible,  expensive. 1.1 hp / cu in at 117 easier and will have better manners. Costs will be close to the same.

[Hossamania]

On a trike I wouldn't think horsepower would be the goal, but rather early, large torque.

[NHBagger]

On a trike I wouldn't think horsepower would be the goal, but rather early, large torque.

Very true, but I have found you still need a good mix.

[Don D]

Go bigger with a lower state of tune and get it all. Less compression,  less heat, longer life.

[NHBagger]

Bigger is not an option. Will need to keep looking for a new set of cams that will give me 5/5 more than the SE585s.

[Ohio HD]

TTS-150 will be in my 117 rebuild. I assume that this sheet has stock 110 heads as they don't mention head work. So good head work will only help.


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[Tail Ridr]

TTS-150 will be in my 117 rebuild. I assume that this sheet has stock 110 heads as they don't mention head work. So good head work will only help.

Can't help but wonder how that would be for a nice touring rig...

[Hillside Motorcycle]

T-Man 660PS-2 at 10.6 in a 110" with a good head/intake/pipe. Large, broad, power.
Wood 408-6 is a close second....10.6 cr.
Our Facebook has the dyno info, on the use of the Wood cam.

[Ohio HD]

TTS-150 will be in my 117 rebuild. I assume that this sheet has stock 110 heads as they don't mention head work. So good head work will only help.

Can't help but wonder how that would be for a nice touring rig...

That's where they shine, heavy bikes.

[harpwrench]

Looking at dyno graphs on the Internet to choose cams is not a good way to go about it. What heads are on this, ported 103 or 110, liquid cooled? Who did em? Specs? Exhaust- are you still using the small fullsac C pipe with small cores? Smashed crossover? What throttle body? (Edit- ok I see SE58) How did you get it down to 10.2 with a 117 if using 103 wet heads? How are you tuning it since it hasn't been on a dyno with the 117?

[Don D]

Well said and I agree

[838]

TTS-150 will be in my 117 rebuild. I assume that this sheet has stock 110 heads as they don't mention head work. So good head work will only help.


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Do you think 130hp potential is there with this cam in a 117?

I had recommended it for the 117" I posted above. Looks like the graph you posted is by the same guy that tuned the 117" I helped with and the torque is coming on sooner with the 150, and at 9.9:1 no less.

[Don D]

Cams don't work autonomously. The pipe and heads have a major influence on the outcome. And that said if the throttle body is too small then there is another constraint to deal with. The system, the sum of the parts, not good or bad cam

[Ohio HD]

TTS-150 will be in my 117 rebuild. I assume that this sheet has stock 110 heads as they don't mention head work. So good head work will only help.


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Do you think 130hp potential is there with this cam in a 117?

I had recommended it for the 117" I posted above. Looks like the graph you posted is by the same guy that tuned the 117" I helped with and the torque is coming on sooner with the 150, and at 9.9:1 no less.

With good head work, you can get close. However the cams aren't designed for upper power. Low and more mid, and easy on the valve train. 

I have a sheet from a 113" with TTS-150's and Larry's heads that makes 132TQ 124HP. I can't post it as it was given to me as 3rd hand.  So it's possible with a 117" to get there. That would probably be the limit.

[Don D]

We did a 107 locally with the tts150 and it made 118/126. Fatcat and my Street Pro heads. Stock throttle body. High early torque.

[838]

Bigger is not an option. Will need to keep looking for a new set of cams that will give me 5/5 more than the SE585s.

Are you trying to get 130 hp at the wheel(s)? If so you'll need to be closer to 10.8-11.25:1. My personal sport touring  117" is at 11:1  140/136.

You will also need the ancillary components to yield these results.