Another Twin Cam 88 with Backfire Thru Carb

Started by byf41, June 01, 2020, 03:09:58 PM

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byf41

June 01, 2020, 03:09:58 PM Last Edit: June 01, 2020, 04:20:27 PM by byf41
I bought my 2003 FXDL new in 2003 . I pulled out of the dealership driving It home , theres a stop light right In front of the dealership . First time I cracked the throttle It backfired through the carb and died . Had It In the dealer so many times the zone rep offered to buy It back and put me In a 2004 with FI . I kept It and have been trying to get It right , off and on ever since . Ive got SE slip on pipes that I bored larger , 16952-99B SE heads , 44MM carb , 25149-00 cams/push rods , 31710-01 coil/module kit , plug wires . It runs WAY better but I still get the occasional cough through the carb . Ive got a #50 slow and #200 main jet In It and I think the original 44mm needle and spring as I recall , about 2 turns out on the air/fuel . I have It Idling at about 1100-1150 which I know Is on the transfer ports , but If I lower It the problem Is worse . I guess my question Is , should I go to a #52 slow jet , seems a bit much ? I thought about changing needles or adding a shim but from what I understand the needle Isnt In play off Idle , cant find a decent performance needle anyway . I wonder If Im fighting a problem with my map sensor/timing but honestly don't know how to check It . No vacuum leaks and float level OK . Any opinions or recommendations would be appreciated .

Hossamania

Does it do it whether cold or warm? Does it do it just off idle when cracking it hard, or when rolling down the road and a slow or intermediate or hard roll on?
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Hossamania

Is the accelerator pump working properly, a good strong stream shooting directly into the throat when you twist the throttle?
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byf41

Accelerator pump has a nice strong stream . It will do It warm or cold , but very seldom when the choke Is on . Once youre rolling It will almost never do It , 99% of the time Its when cracking the throttle from Idle . Sometimes when you roll on the throttle easy It will do It but not often . If I drop the Idle down to spec (950-1050) It does It more frequently . Classic symptom of lean mixture IMO but I hesitate to go to a #52 slow cause It seems like a #50 should be sufficient ?     

Hossamania

Have you ever had it on a Dyno for a tune, or at least run to see how it reads?
You could try a shim under the needle to see if it helps. If not, pull it and try the 52. You are right, it is a classic symptom of lean condition. While cv44 carbs are all the same, they are not all the same.
Could it be a condition of the pipes not playing well with everything?
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take everything you have.

speedzter

If you set your idle low (warm) does your mixture screw have any affect ?
You have obviously tried to richen the screw, say 3 to 4 turns out ?

byf41

June 02, 2020, 11:20:56 AM #6 Last Edit: June 02, 2020, 04:09:25 PM by byf41
I have the A/F at 2 turns out cause that's the sweet spot with the current jetting . I have turned It out some but have not had It out to 3-4 turns as I recall and I believe that was at say 1100 rpm . I verified It has the N8EL needle In It now . I do have a #52 slow and some larger main jets In hand , as well as a .034 needle shim I took out of my stock carb when I was trying to make It work . Never had It on a dyno . Guess I should have documented It better .