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Head cc question.

Started by Jim Bronson, May 17, 2022, 11:35:26 AM

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Jim Bronson

Why would someone select heads with a particular cc number? Is bigger better or is there an ideal cc spec for a given setup?
Thanks.
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Ohio HD

You need to first know what compression you'll be running at. Then the pistons and head cc volume is set to make the compression you desire.

Jim Bronson

Let's say S&S 107, 10.5:1 with flat top pistons.
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Ohio HD

Need to know is the piston flush with the top of the cylinder.
How many CC's are in the valve reliefs in the pistons.
What thickness is the head gasket.
I'll assume late model 7.659" rods
85cc OEM heads with an 0.030" HG would be "about" 10.2"1 compression.
82cc heads with an 0.030" HG would be about 10.5:1 compression.

But! You need to know the other items I listed above. They all play into the compression ratio.

 

Jim Bronson

I'll need to verify some of the items mentioned. Thanks.
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Ohio HD

Also confirm if those pistons have a dome or are flat tops.

Jim Bronson

Hey I know that one. They are "3cc pop-up dome" pistons.
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Don D

May 17, 2022, 01:07:41 PM #7 Last Edit: May 17, 2022, 03:46:58 PM by HD Street Performance
S&S pistons 110 kit have +.7cc net, just FYI, not 107

Jim Bronson

I can't get a 110 kit for 6-8 weeks, so I'm going with a 107 kit.
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Ohio HD

May 17, 2022, 02:27:49 PM #9 Last Edit: May 17, 2022, 02:39:30 PM by Ohio HD
Drag Specialties shows the S&S 110" kits in stock. Get with your supplier.

I don't know where the 3cc came from. On the web site they do show as 0.75cc for the 110 kit.

Never mind, the 3cc is the 106" S&S kit.





Ohio HD

I was also mixed up with the 110 and 106 motor.


S&S 106" kit, 3cc piston, 0.030" HG, pistons zero deck, heads 87cc = compression 10.53:1

S&S 110" kit, 0.75cc piston, 0.030" HG, pistons zero deck, heads 87cc = compression 10.57:1

Jim Bronson

Keep in mind this is The Peoples Republic, and it is illegal for companies to ship performance parts here that alter the emissions. I happen to be on good terms with a performance shop near here, and they are an S&S dealer. They can order parts and have them forwarded through their 'agent'.

My tech was able to convince them to ship a 107 kit directly to him, and he will return the bad 110 kit. For some reason, they told him that the 107 is a better kit. I don't really care. I am looking to replace the heads down the road, so hence the cc question.
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Don D

Best 107 kit in my opinion is bored stock cylinders and kb forged lca coated pistons. They are flatops at -1.6cc

cheech

Quote from: Jim Bronson on May 17, 2022, 02:11:17 PMI can't get a 110 kit for 6-8 weeks, so I'm going with a 107 kit.
Quote from: Jim Bronson on May 17, 2022, 04:00:15 PMand he will return the bad 110 kit.
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