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Started by slo-poke 03, May 26, 2010, 07:08:13 PM

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slo-poke 03

I have seen a few posts here about using a netbook with the TTS, as I don't have a laptop and know nothing about them, can some one recommend a netbook that would work for downloading to the ECM, v-tunes ect. I would only use it for this purpose so I would be looking for the least expensive that would work.
    thanks

wurk_truk

#1
You will need to pa attention to what the OS is, for starters.  A lot of netbooks run CE these days, and that is not enough to run TTS.   I have a Verizon netbook with XP.  I'm thinking of giving that a try.  Where someone showed a netbook in one of my threads for 120... it actually had CE as the OS and that wouldn't work.  Also, CPU spped and the graphic card inside becomes important.  The really cheap netbooks are internet cruising devices, and not much being actual 'computers'.  I would think with TTS, one would need a bit of speed to make all the internal calculations.

Minimum Computer Requirements for TTS:
MasterTune-HD requires Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP/Vista/Win7.  MasterTune will run on 32- or 64-bit versions of Windows operating systems. 

It is highly recommended that the operating system have all current Windows updates installed.

Minimum system hardware requirements:
Pentium-class PC at 400 MHz or above

Display Resolution 800 x 600 or above, 1024 x 768 recommended

Serial RS-232 Communication port or USB port depending on which cable was ordered

Memory:
Win 98/SE/ME - 64 MB

Win 2000 - 128M

Win XP – 256M

Vista - 512M

Win7 = 1GB

Hard Drive Space Required: 20 MB

Software:
Internet Explorer 6 or later

Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0


Soo.... the 256 RAM should be easy enough, but some of the chipsets in the cheap netbooks are at or slower than 400hz.

The Dell 'Mini' with XP looks like it meets ALL of the above specs.

Problem with a netbook, though, could be there is NO optical drive.  So, one either has to BUY a drive (cd/rom) or come up with another way to load applications.

A laptop may be the better all around solution for a person with NO machine at all.

Dell Mini has XP and is 279.  But a stripped Inspirion is 399 and a better all around deal, IMHO.  Someone like Walmart or Sams may have cheaper laptops, but I wouldn't just BUY a netbook....  like one would a laptop.... one would really pay attention to those netbook specs.  I had an ASUS netbook a few years ago, and it couldn't run ANYTHING application-wise.

I'm leaning towards a laptop if it is the ONLY machine one has.

But, surely someone here can tell us BOTH how to load TTS without an optical drive.  (I HAVE a drive, but am dumb about this).

I wish to make MY netbbok into MY tuning device.  Just tuning apps and internet is it.  I will need a USB cable and drivers for the TTS (presently only have serial).  The Twin Scan already has serial stuff.   My 7" monitor is USB, too.

Let's wait and see what the 'brain trust' has to say.  I'm very interested in this!   I can carry the netbook on one of the bags during a trip and adjust tune if needed very easily... AND look at porn (v-twin forum and HTT) while on the road.
Oh No!

Tsani

While not TTS, I am running SERT on an ASUS 1005PEB EECPC notebook. Since they are similar, I would assume that there is no issues. Remember what assume stands for tho. I believe Steve Cole had mentioned that they had not verified that it will run on a notebook. As for loading with no optical drive, I loaded it on a thunmb drive and loaded that way. I also pulled off teh CD on my main computer via my home network. Both ways loaded fine.
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wurk_truk

#3
Netbook isn't a notebook.  Sert doesn't do calculations like TTS either.

Can you copy the whole thing over to a thumb drive?  How?  I know how to copy a disc or even make an image of a disc, but don't know how to do that?  Could I copy the image to a thumb drive?  Would you use windows to copy?  A program like Nero?  THIS is crap I don't know.

MY ASUS was the EE PC.  That could NOT run Microsoft Streets and Trips with GPS.

I just looked... I have the HP Mini 1000.  The specs look good for TTS and DTT.  I need a USB cable for the TTS and I WILL give it a try AND a review.

I'm gonna go see if my 7" monitor will run off of this or not.  I DO have a 12v port in my right side bag, to eliminate the 'battery' issues with v-tuning.

To answer the OP...  I think the Dell Mini could be made to work.  279 is a good price.  Amazon has my HPmini at like 600!!!
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Tsani

Don't know what to say Wurk Turk. My Asus EECPC runs my Garmin map source just fine. I do data runs with it all the time, and modiify my maps. As for loading the cd on to my thumbdrive, I just opened up a widow of the cd and copied it all over. Stuck in my usb and ran it.
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wurk_truk

#5
Cool.  If the EEPC can run it, the Minis surely can.

I opened the TTS disk with "explore", and drug all of the folders over.  Should work.

Huh.... when I would be on the road and try to have the EEPC do a route from where I was to where I wanted to go, while driving, it would stutter, like it was getting a bit over loaded.  I think mine was old enough to have 256 RAM, though.  The Minis have a gig.
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slo-poke 03

wurk truk, " Dell Mini has XP and is 279.  But a stripped Inspirion is 399 and a better all around deal, IMHO.  Someone like Walmart or Sams may have cheaper laptops, but I wouldn't just BUY a netbook....  like one would a laptop.... one would really pay attention to those netbook specs. "
   the dell mini you mention does not seem to bad at 279 if it will do all the things needed. I think this is good information, thanks to everybody for their imput, I know there must be computer guys on this site that can set us striaght.


yositime

About the best deal and performance with netbooks currently is one of the ACER models, 1410T or 1810T.  Both of these come equipped with Windoze 7 home premium which runs TTS just great and a high resolution screen. The are small, lightweight, well made, and have great battery life. Windoze 7 home premium is a better OS version than XP.

These ACERs can be had new for about $250-$500 depending on features.  I use a 1810T routinely.

If you are concerned about not having a built in CD for TTS or anything else, there are several USB CD drives available for $50 or less. They work well for loading apps or backing up.

There are other netbooks out there that will work just fine, but from reading reviews the ACERs seem to be the hot ticket at the moment for either low price or bang for the buck.

wurk_truk

I have one of those USB CD drives.  They DO work OK.   From looking at specs, and having went through the 'early' models....  I think there are a few netbooks that would work perfectly.  I want to make sure MINE works, because I could then ALWAYS haul it around on big trips.  Use it in Motels at nite, and use for a quick fixer up on the tune if needed too.... all while on the road!!!
Oh No!

wolfmotor1

My little Acer "Aspire One" with Windoze 7 works just fine.  Did the thumb drive download thing.  Updates really fast as well.

hrdtail78

Do you need a cd drive?
http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,27617.0.html

I tried on of those CE jobbers.  No dice w/ TTS.
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FLTRI

Take a look at this:
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3540744&CAWELAID=338212971
Solid State Drive. IMO this is an absolute requirement for the harsh environment as applied with the notebook/netbook used on a motorcycle.
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HogMike

Quote from: Tsani on May 26, 2010, 09:46:44 PM
Don't know what to say Wurk Turk. My Asus EECPC runs my Garmin map source just fine. I do data runs with it all the time, and modiify my maps. As for loading the cd on to my thumbdrive, I just opened up a widow of the cd and copied it all over. Stuck in my usb and ran it.

I bought one of these about 2 yrs ago when they first came out, got a deal 'cause it's "pink"! and a demo.
Dragged it all over the country (22,000 miles last summer) and it's still working fine.
I use it for tuning with TTS, checking email, etc, etc.
Yes, slower than my home 'puter, but, rugged as hell.
Battery rattles a little now, but, after riding in a saddle bag all that way, I'm sold!
I'll get the same thing if this one ever dies.
Wish my '09 was as reliable!
:agree:
HOGMIKE
SoCal

yositime

Quote from: yositime on May 27, 2010, 05:32:58 PM
If you are concerned about not having a built in CD for TTS or anything else, there are several USB CD drives available for $50 or less. They work well for loading apps or backing up.

Just an update that I've read you can now download and install TTS software from the mastertune.net site, no CD/DVD drive required, just an internet connection.

HogMike

Quote from: yositime on June 29, 2010, 09:52:48 AM
Quote from: yositime on May 27, 2010, 05:32:58 PM
If you are concerned about not having a built in CD for TTS or anything else, there are several USB CD drives available for $50 or less. They work well for loading apps or backing up.

Just an update that I've read you can now download and install TTS software from the mastertune.net site, no CD/DVD drive required, just an internet connection.

True, you just need an internet connection, run your "Updater" and you get all the latest stuff.
I keep my files on a thumb drive with my EeePc, and play with the files on my desktop, easy to "save to" thumb drive.
:agree:
HOGMIKE
SoCal

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Ghost Rider

Just picked up an HP mini today for $299-same price as the Acer with identical specs. Downloaded the TTS software from the TTS site. Used the link above supplied by Tre_09UC. -Painless!