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Need a cam comprable too ss 570

Started by 86fxwg, November 20, 2010, 05:45:21 AM

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86fxwg

A buddy wants the hippo build but doesnt want to go gear drive.Any one make the same cam but in chain drive.Haven't looked any were else since this is the place for answers.One stop shopping.
Thanks guys.

Dave
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05FLHTC

November 20, 2010, 06:03:07 AM #1 Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 06:12:53 AM by 05FLHTC
Crane HTC 290-2

.570" lift
IO 18, IC 42, Duration 240
EO 46, EC 22, Duration 248
LSA of 102

This is the closest chain drive cam that I have ever spotted to the 570G.

I have also read it can be noisey but I have no experience using it.

The other one is the RS 575, but I am not sure if that comes in chain drive ???

Edit> If I were in that spot I would take a close look at the Mackie 590  :idea:
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Don D

The Redshift is closer and really better fit for most heads. That 570 have a one off exhaust lobe center, not too common 98°

05FLHTC

Don ya I like the looks of that MK590...not common but it should hit hard on the bottom end with a decent set of heads.
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prodrag1320

you can get a S&S.570 in a chain version too

86fxwg

Hes on a buget.He had 211 in this build but never really ran well.He worked on a members bike here and asked what it had,I told him a hippo build so he thought he would try it unless someone has another idea im all ears.Hes also a tech at a dealer, but all they do is kits and down loads,so i told him id go were the best advice could be found.
Here's what he has to work with.
95"
true duals,rinehart slipons.
se flat tops (he say there 10.5 to 1)
stock 04 heads with 1.97 in. 1.6 ex.
42 mik
se ign module

Thanks Dave
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05FLHTC

Dave I would check what the CCP is now with the 211's to be sure you end up picking a cam that will place the CCP at optimum 180~190 range.
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86fxwg

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Don D

211s need forged SE HC piston and the MCR heads to work well.

86fxwg

Cant do that, its toar down at hall,s harley in springfield.I asked him what his cranking compression was before teardown,he thought it was 210.I asked him if it pinged,He said he jetted the ping out.
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05FLHTC

November 20, 2010, 07:00:43 AM #10 Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 07:07:29 AM by 05FLHTC
210 Yipes!

I would measure the heads & be sure the flat tops have the eye brows opened up towards the outer edge to accommodate the larger valves in them heads.

Be sure yr at zero deck & then come back with the #'s...

Edit in addition if the CCP was 210 with the SE211 cams prior, you are not gonna want to go with a 570 or like cam, that will push yr CCP up towards 215 & that will spell TROUBLE in a heavy bike.

We need more info & correct info at that to help you  :idea:  :wink:
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86fxwg

Ok 05, going by the dealer to show him how to messure deck height.Like i said he does kits and never done this.I will have more info later.
Thanks guys
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bike_doctor

THE BIKE DAVE IS TALKING ABOUT IS ACTUALY MINE. I ALSO HAVE A SET OF 110 SCREAMIN EAGLE HEADS AVAILABLE, WOULD THIS MAKE THE COMBINATION WORK BETTER OR WHAT WILL GIVE ME THE MOST POWER?
born to wrench

05FLHTC

That's a very tough broad question & welcome to the site, turn off the caps LOCK!

In yr setup I like the FT pistons along with good heads CC'd at 82cc's & SE 204 cams
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Ghost Rider

QuoteNeed a cam comprable too ss 570
Look no further than the HQ0039 "Cyclone" (Headquarters). Doug Coffey came up with this grind before S&S. It looks like S&S tried to copy it and changed it only slightly so it would not be an exact copy. Also look at the HQ575 "Howlin Jack" which be easier on the starter and less prone to ping at higher compression.

86fxwg

Quote from: 05FLHTC on November 20, 2010, 09:12:26 AM
That's a very tough broad question & welcome to the site, turn off the caps LOCK!

In yr setup I like the FT pistons along with good heads CC'd at 82cc's & SE 204 cams
05,are u saying use the 110 heads cc'd to 82 with the 204 came?
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Don D


bike_doctor

so your saying have my stock heads worked over and run 204 cams. what about compression stay at 10:5:1 or drop to 9:5:1. thanks for the input, i will never turn away help, one can only improve by listening
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bike_doctor

 :scratch:what i want to do is turn my bagger up to its full potential, i ride 60 miles each way to work interstate and i just want more power. i do alot of highway but i also do alot of riding with friends. i put it together once already and it was a disapointment, looking for any input, thanks
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05FLHTC

November 20, 2010, 04:22:24 PM #19 Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 04:26:50 PM by 05FLHTC
Yep many happy campers running the 204's with a street port job on there heads, nothing fancy, the combo works well & the 204's have a little attitude about them, nice lopy idle with great exhaust note IMO.

I would suggest a head porter you trust, set the heads at 82cc's. flat top pistons, zero deck, tune & enjoy. It's not gonna break any records, but it puts a smile on most folks face & it won't sound stock like a 26 build at idle.

It also will not be octane needy or a starter eater...but I would add compression releases for the extreme hot days & short heat soaks.
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bike_doctor

what combination would you suggest if i wanted to get a little more on the radical side
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86fxwg

05 will the 204s and the street port make 100 /100 ?If not what will with 95" true dualls,42 mik.

Dave
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Don D

That will take a bit more cam like the Wood 6h.

05FLHTC

November 20, 2010, 05:24:38 PM #23 Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 05:26:56 PM by 05FLHTC
Quote from: 86fxwg on November 20, 2010, 05:00:29 PM
05 will the 204s and the street port make 100 /100 ?If not what will with 95" true dualls,42 mik.

Dave
Dewey would be the one better then me to answer that. My suggestion will run strong but most likely fall a little short of 100/100. The thing it will produce is good street-able power where you need it without breaking the bank with a nice hot rod sound/idle.

Quote from: Deweysheads on November 20, 2010, 05:19:00 PM
That will take a bit more cam like the Wood 6h.
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Don D

I have broke 100/100 with the low lift 6 but the pipe and tune need to be my choice of pipes and a good tune.