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CHP ticketing for modified pipes?

Started by MaxxV4, October 03, 2011, 11:52:44 AM

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shoveldog81

Growing up in Los Angeles in the 60s, we all got lots of fix-it tickets - no cost if you showed it was fixed.  One time I got one for loud pipes.  So, my "fix" was to stuff the pipes with steel wool, and use a bolt to hold it in.  I took it to the police station for verification, started the bike, the cop stood behind it and said, "come on, rev it up".  That red hot blob of steel wool flew out and hit him in the leg, instantly melting those "double knit" pants they used to wear.  I think I spent at least an hour there, getting the lecture on what they could do to me.
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JohnCA58

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deathwish

Hmmmm maybe we need to take our aftermarket mufflers and stamp them with all the legal shi- and have them rechromed. That'll confus-i-ate them. Since I ride Customs and the State inspected them its their fault for passng them with aftermarket exhaust, or so I'll contest.

timtoolman

October 12, 2011, 05:19:07 PM #28 Last Edit: October 12, 2011, 05:22:49 PM by timtoolman
just buy a set of fulsac performance mufflers  i did,  they are recored stocks  with basically reinhart  type baffle   and a emission stamp already,    different   muffler sizes availiable  :wink:  then behave in town  raise the noise out side of town, but i currantly run reinharts but behave in town/cities in pa.
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seattledyna

I have the complete stock exhaust system for my 91 FXR and kept the muffs for my 09 RG, If it comes down it I can always put em back on :wink:

Also have in a box the complete OEM exhaust and intake for an 08 touring bike, suppose it's worth holding on to now.

Just don't know how they would enforce widespread testing on bikes, California is broke and couldn't put that infrastructure together if they had to.

MaxxV4

My friend just updated me that he put his stock pipes back on and had the CHP here in San Diego sign off on it. He said the CHP looked the ticket over carefully to make sure he was signing off the correct thing and he told my friend that he was surprised that the cop up north wrote the ticket without having a decibel meter.
My friend was just relieved that he was not cited for the 11 mph over the limit and figured he would just keep quiet about the fix-it ticket.
Mike

tdkkart

Quote from: timtoolman on October 12, 2011, 05:19:07 PM
just buy a set of fulsac performance mufflers  i did,  they are recored stocks  with basically reinhart  type baffle   and a emission stamp already,    different   muffler sizes availiable  :wink:  then behave in town  raise the noise out side of town, but i currantly run reinharts but behave in town/cities in pa.



Not that we have an issue with being written tickets here, but I'm seriously considering the Fulsac conversion kit for a couple reasons. #1, I like the look of 4" muffler cans.
#2, Since they're a rec-core of your stock cans, they have the EPA number stamped on them. Unless the cop is really on the ball he just may buy into it.

adayrider

Quote from: tdkkart on October 13, 2011, 11:09:49 AM
Quote from: timtoolman on October 12, 2011, 05:19:07 PM
just buy a set of fulsac performance mufflers  i did,  they are recored stocks  with basically reinhart  type baffle   and a emission stamp already,    different   muffler sizes availiable  :wink:  then behave in town  raise the noise out side of town, but i currantly run reinharts but behave in town/cities in pa.



Not that we have an issue with being written tickets here, but I'm seriously considering the Fulsac conversion kit for a couple reasons. #1, I like the look of 4" muffler cans.
#2, Since they're a rec-core of your stock cans, they have the EPA number stamped on them. Unless the cop is really on the ball he just may buy into it.



Unless he has a noise meter. Then what???

turboprop

This ticket thing might be a good thing. Had it not been for Cali, our harley's might still be running shovel heads, points and carbs. Who knows what this will force the industry to develop for exhausts. The interum might be difficult, but down the road we might be better off as a result of this. Being in NC I am glad that it is happening elsewhere.
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tdkkart

Quote from: adayrider on October 15, 2011, 08:13:54 AM
Unless he has a noise meter. Then what???

You may be screwed, although noise meters are expensive. The DWI laws have been in place for MANY years, yet we can't even get breathalyzers in all the squads around here, I doubt we'll see noise meters anytime soon.

'Course if you're making enough noise to draw the attention of a LEO away from his donut box without an actual complaint called in, your probably acting like an asshat and deserve the ticket.

76shuvlinoff


I agree that usually it's some other behavioral issue that catches a LEO's attention. However I did get a helmet ticket from an overachiever when I was just idling through town. It turned out the officer was on a personal mission against non-dot lids and he told me up front the skid lid was the reason he stopped me it. It amounted to a "fix-it" ticket and when I arrived at the courthouse with a dot lid they tossed the ticket out.

Don't get me wrong, I was "breaking the law" and got nailed for it, I can take that but for shits and giggles I wrote a letter to the editor of the local rag that got a surprising amount of support because he had been a busy boy. Word of mouth has it that the officer got some pressure from his peers and superiors to drop his non-dot vendetta. I don't hear complaints about him anymore and have been through that town many times since with my beanie, no hassle.

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76shuvlinoff

QuoteBy the way, my son also rides a motorcycle.

I think that had a lot to do with how he handled it.  :up:
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turboprop

Quote from: Ultrashovel on October 15, 2011, 01:12:07 PMOne day, he saw a group of 15 or so outlaw bikers in a group running along within the speed limit. Only issue was that none of them were wearing helmets.

Did he pull over the whole group and write out 15 tickets?....ah, no, he didn't. What he did do was to pull his cruiser up alongside of the leader. He then tapped on his forehead, indicating that they should put on their helmets and all would be well.

The leader waved back at him and then the whole group pulled over and put on their helmets. Needless to say, my son simply kept on going. All's well, that ends well.

Instead of making a big deal out of it, he handled it with some respect and no one got a ticket and the whole issue was over. Most cops I know would have handled it in the same manner.

Varies from agency to agency, but typically, the average patrol cop is prohibited by policy from stopping members of the big motorcycle clubs, especially large groups of members of the big motorcycle clubs. The clubs all know this.

Unless the cop is part of the gang unit or is taking part in a coordinated operation, they will typically just follow real close so their onboard cameras can record something for the gang unit intel section to review later.

Funny story, several years ago we were going through a southeastern state, maybe twenty five members and another fifteen or so additionals in the back.  This young, cop sees us speeding and makes a u turn, comes up real fast and pulls the last guy (with a slick vest). All of the bikes pull over, the chase vehicles stayed back in overwatch, etc. Standard drill. We get off the bikes, half of us have permits for concealed cary, to include our chicks. The cops are taught to always be incontrol, dominate the situation, etc. I think the young cop was shitting his pants. Wouldn't get out of the car. Some of the group started calling him, the chicks were heckling him. We were around his car watching him talk on the radio. Within a few minutes he killed the blue lights, backed up and left.

Sort of reinforces the idea that cops are bullies. Had that been a single sheeple instead of a large group of club members, the traffic stop would have ended completely different.
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Bakon

No policy I ever saw. Cop was smart to not approach a group for minor traffic infraction.
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Bakon

October 16, 2011, 01:52:21 PM #39 Last Edit: October 16, 2011, 01:54:42 PM by BAKON
Varies from agency to agency, but typically, the average patrol cop is prohibited by policy from stopping members of the big motorcycle clubs, especially large groups of members of the big motorcycle clubs. The clubs all know this.

Wrong

Unless the cop is part of the gang unit or is taking part in a coordinated operation, they will typically just follow real close so their onboard cameras can record something for the gang unit intel section to review later.

Again wrong

Funny story, several years ago we were going through a southeastern state, maybe twenty five members and another fifteen or so additionals in the back.  This young, cop sees us speeding and makes a u turn, comes up real fast and pulls the last guy (with a slick vest). All of the bikes pull over, the chase vehicles stayed back in overwatch, etc. Standard drill. We get off the bikes, half of us have permits for concealed cary, to include our chicks. The cops are taught to always be incontrol, dominate the situation, etc. I think the young cop was shitting his pants. Wouldn't get out of the car. Some of the group started calling him, the chicks were heckling him. We were around his car watching him talk on the radio. Within a few minutes he killed the blue lights, backed up and left.

Not funny and smart on his part

Sort of reinforces the idea that cops are bullies. Had that been a single sheeple instead of a large group of club members, the traffic stop would have ended completely different.
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Reinforces? Doing his job and who really looks like the bully, the cop or the club?
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Dennis The Menace

Stop the BS.  Stay on topic with facts, or the thread will be locked along with your account.