Which 2-1 to use?????

[BB Wolf 63627]

Finishing my build 95" with SE forged pistons, 06 heads with 86cc big boyz porting & 0 deck height .030 MLS gaskets, andrews 26g cams,on a 05 ultra classic. What do you guys think about pipe for this build? I do a lot of 2 up long distance riding. Anyone else running this combo. If so which exhaust are you running.

[biggzed]

Supermeg seems to give a great balance of power and tolerable volume.

Zach

[Barrett]

SuperTrapp Supermeg..your ears and passenger will thank you on the long rides, they make good power too.

[Jeffd]

Finishing my build 95" with SE forged pistons, 06 heads with 86cc big boyz porting & 0 deck height .030 MLS gaskets, andrews 26g cams,on a 05 ultra classic. What do you guys think about pipe for this build? I do a lot of 2 up long distance riding. Anyone else running this combo. If so which exhaust are you running.

I had a similar build, I had se cast flat tops and gmr's version of the bigboyz port with 83cc 0 deck .030 26g, 04 egc and supertrapp supermeg and it ran very good.  mid 90's torq on local dyno and 102 tq on latus motors dyno, started right off the bottom. 

[Horizonmech]

Like it or not the Thunderheader with the baffles modified is hard to beat......

[acbacb]

SuperTrapp Supermeg..your ears and passenger will thank you on the long rides, they make good power too.

[gabbyduffy]

SUPERTRAPP SUPERMEG............ the best....   

[Jaycee1964]

Supermeg is it.  I got one and wouldn't go with anything else. 

[Thumper Buttercup]

We are running the same build you have except we have the 48N cams, and Larry did our
heads, we are running the SuperTrapp SuperMeg and we really like it.  Always riding two
up here.

[calgary56]

horizonmech - "Thunderheader with the baffles modified" ... what's involved with modifying the baffles? ... can you purchase them already modified?

[Admiral Akbar]

horizonmech - "Thunderheader with the baffles modified" ... what's involved with modifying the baffles? ... can you purchase them already modified?

Like it or not the Thunderheader with the baffles modified is hard to beat......

Why do I find this funny?   

Max

[sixxfoot]

Supertrapp

[kbiforce]

  Supertrapp!!!!

[Dustball]

I have a D&D Fat Cat with quiet baffle, nd it makes great power and is very tolerable on long rides.  My second choice with a Super Meg. 

[02 Ultra]

Trapp

[Horizonmech]

 Please Max, I'm interested to know this is so amusing......It's well documented.....

[gonefishing_68]

10 to 1

[BB Wolf 63627]

Thanks for all the replies. Supertrap Supermeg it is.

[hrdtail78]

I have 2 builds out there closely to yours.  83 cc heads.  One is mine and the other is a custmers.  Both are running a TH w/ two edges bent on the baffle.  They run strong and are low 100 tq, high 90's power.  It is nice to see the 26 pull to redline with proper set up heads.

They are both loud, yes I can still hear my radio at highway speeds, but it is hard to find somebody that wants to ride on the right.  I mention sound because I don't think you will find any power difference between the TH and SM if the time is taken to set the disc count correctly.  IMO the TH sounds better.

[Tattoo]

I have tried them all , fatcat to thunderheader and the supermeg is my personal favorite for sound and power.

[boooby1744]

I jst got a RB racing black hole for my '12 RK. Not the best choice for power,but i like the way it looks and sounds.  I 'll put it on this winter,along with headwork and a  cam.

[Jeffd]

I jst got a RB racing black hole for my '12 RK. Not the best choice for power,but i like the way it looks and sounds.  I 'll put it on this winter,along with headwork and a  cam.

I thought the RB was supposed to be best for power?

[Admiral Akbar]

Please Max, I'm interested to know this is so amusing......It's well documented.....

Yep.  Lets just say to make it hard to beat you need to beat on it.. with a hammer and a punch..   Max

[boooby1744]

I jst got a RB racing black hole for my '12 RK. Not the best choice for power,but i like the way it looks and sounds.  I 'll put it on this winter,along with headwork and a  cam.

I thought the RB was supposed to be best for power?

Horsepower,yes,bottom end torque,there are better pipes.

[DarrellV]

I like the D&D FatCat pipe. i have it on my older E-Glide which is about the same motor /cams etc. as yours and I also have one on my new 103"motor.

[Pilgrim]

I jst got a RB racing black hole for my '12 RK. Not the best choice for power,but i like the way it looks and sounds.  I 'll put it on this winter,along with headwork and a  cam.

RB dropped mine at FedEx today; it's due here Weds and I'll put it on right away.  Not everybody would put an SE259 cam in their 103" build with SE high-compression heads and pistons for an RG but I did; we'll see how this pipe works with it.

Pilgrim

[hogasm]

Give these a look

Costly...very costly...but nice

www.akrapovic-custom.com

[ready2ride]

I like my d&d fatcat, my old bassani was loud and lost torque

[Admiral Akbar]

I like my d&d fatcat, my old bassani was loud and lost torque

Flip side.. I went from a fatcat to a bassani and picked up a bunch of mid range tq..  Max

[saddle tramp]

Max,
Was that on the EGC or another bike ?

I like my d&d fatcat, my old bassani was loud and lost torque

Flip side.. I went from a fatcat to a bassani and picked up a bunch of mid range tq..  Max

[CndUltra88]

horizonmech - "Thunderheader with the baffles modified" ... what's involved with modifying the baffles? ... can you purchase them already modified?

Calgary, there is some type of tab on the baffle  be it inside the megaphone or at the external end I do not know.
02 roadcling was at Jarzz Performance and they had his bike on the dyno and the tweek was already done before I arrived to bravo sierra with Steve.
From what I recall it is a "common tweek" with the Thunderheader , and most guys swear by this free mod.
Either you luv the TH or you Hate them, I fall in the latter myself...they are to dam noisy for my virgin ears.
My vote is for the V&H Pro Pipe, but again it was to loud for my apartment complex and took my licks in the pocket book rather than an eviction notice.
There are lots of pipes to choose from and eventually the OP will hear the one he likes,
Rob

[lonewolf]

horizonmech - "Thunderheader with the baffles modified" ... what's involved with modifying the baffles? ... can you purchase them already modified?

Just bend the tabs at the end out to within 1/4". Fat Cat's a good pipe. Supertrapp gives you a chance to move the power around, but I have seen a few that tend to discolor at the connection.

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[05FLHTC]

FWIW I like almost any 2 in 1 pipe but the Pfffffffffft Trap 

I am currently running a 2 in 1 Bub 7 great sound & performance is 2nd to none IME.

Sound is a personal taste so to each their own 

[Deye76]

horizonmech - "Thunderheader with the baffles modified" ... what's involved with modifying the baffles? ... can you purchase them already modified?

Just bend the tabs at the end out to within 1/4". Fat Cat's a good pipe. Supertrapp gives you a chance to move the power around, but I have seen a few that tend to discolor at the connection.

I feel dips are often not felt, but I'd rather have the dip low than in the midrange like the 2 graphs show.

[Admiral Akbar]

Depends.. For a bagger, going to a Bassani with trap on the end, it picked up a bunch.. Not sure about the  stock Bassani as it was too loud.

On a 116 dyna, a box stock, Bassani Road Rage made real good mid tq, compared to so stepped Turdomax's it picked up a bunch of mid range but I'd cleaned up the heads (IE flow)  and increased the cr 1/2 point. For some reason it's not as loud..

Max

Max,
Was that on the EGC or another bike ?

I like my d&d fatcat, my old bassani was loud and lost torque

Flip side.. I went from a fatcat to a bassani and picked up a bunch of mid range tq..  Max

[gabbyduffy]

Depends.. For a bagger, going to a Bassani with trap on the end, it picked up a bunch.. Not sure about the  stock Bassani as it was too loud.

On a 116 dyna, a box stock, Bassani Road Rage made real good mid tq, compared to so stepped Turdomax's it picked up a bunch of mid range but I'd cleaned up the heads (IE flow)  and increased the cr 1/2 point. For some reason it's not as loud..

Max

Max,
Was that on the EGC or another bike ?

I like my d&d fatcat, my old bassani was loud and lost torque

Flip side.. I went from a fatcat to a bassani and picked up a bunch of mid range tq..  Max

Max can you post some photos, as well as some instructions, and list of parts to change my trapp like you did. Thanks

[Jeffd]

FWIW I like almost any 2 in 1 pipe but the Pfffffffffft Trap 

I am currently running a 2 in 1 Bub 7 great sound & performance is 2nd to none IME.

Sound is a personal taste so to each their own 

strangely enough I did not like the pfft sound my mild 04 95 made when I ran the closed end cap so I always ran an open end cap but on my new 103 with the closed end cap there is no pfft pfft at all just a really nice sound. 

[saddle tramp]

Max,
yea, what did you do to the bassani, did you put the trapp end on it and if so did you leave off the Bassani reverse cone ? Where you running a closed end cap or open ? How many disc's where you using.
Is the pipe still on the bike, if not could I buy, borrow or rent it from you ?
Sure would like some pic's of what you did to get the gains on the EGC.
I'll send you my e-mail if you don't already have it.
PS what the heck is the stepped turdomax"s

Depends.. For a bagger, going to a Bassani with trap on the end, it picked up a bunch.. Not sure about the  stock Bassani as it was too loud.

On a 116 dyna, a box stock, Bassani Road Rage made real good mid tq, compared to so stepped Turdomax's it picked up a bunch of mid range but I'd cleaned up the heads (IE flow)  and increased the cr 1/2 point. For some reason it's not as loud..

Max

Max,
Was that on the EGC or another bike ?

I like my d&d fatcat, my old bassani was loud and lost torque

Flip side.. I went from a fatcat to a bassani and picked up a bunch of mid range tq..  Max

[Admiral Akbar]

Max,
yea, what did you do to the bassani, did you put the trapp end on it and if so did you leave off the Bassani reverse cone ? Where you running a closed end cap or open ? How many disc's where you using.
Is the pipe still on the bike, if not could I buy, borrow or rent it from you ?
Sure would like some pic's of what you did to get the gains on the EGC.
I'll send you my e-mail if you don't already have it.
PS what the heck is the stepped turdomax"s

Cone is removed.

Running and open end cap om the pipe now for the EGC. Still at 16 to 20 with open end cap.

How I did the mods..

http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,39412.msg407192.html#msg407192/

Using a stock endcap now..

Here are some other basstrapps. 

http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,19438.msg198008.html#msg198008

Still on the bike.. Need to go to the dyno so I can compare it to the Fat cat but the mid feels much stronger on the mid range.. Probably lost HP up top. Mouse cam is holding it back..

Turdomax(TM)

On the road king.

http://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php/topic,36290.msg376950.html#msg376950

and

On the Dyna.



Max