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200 rear tire

Started by zoomblack, December 31, 2011, 02:08:09 PM

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zoomblack

December 31, 2011, 02:08:09 PM Last Edit: January 01, 2012, 04:08:46 AM by zoomblack
just installed a 200 rear tire on a 2004 nighttrain. stock 04 swingarm with all HD parts at home
08 HD seat
1 in.belt & rear pulley
17 inch HD wheel
06 brake caliper & bracket
08 crossbones fender & inner & outer struts
fits nice

NETacomaFatboy

Pictures...   How does it handle?   

zoomblack

not on road  just now painting fender and struts

N-gin

So how about some pics?
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Coff 06

Bet it will look great,but you should have went with an 18" wheel as the mileage on the 200/17 tires really suck,no matter which brand,if your able to get 7.5k out of any of them,you are doing better than the rest.I get 7k out of Dunlaps and that's the best,have got as little 2.5k out of Metzlers.Good luck,and can't wait for pics.        Coff 06
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TA63

Quote from: Coff 06 on July 31, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
Bet it will look great,but you should have went with an 18" wheel as the mileage on the 200/17 tires really suck,no matter which brand,if your able to get 7.5k out of any of them,you are doing better than the rest.I get 7k out of Dunlaps and that's the best,have got as little 2.5k out of Metzlers.Good luck,and can't wait for pics.        Coff 06
I have had the same experience, terrible mileage with 17in 200 mm tires.  Anyone out there with a logical reason why?

hd06myway

Quote from: TA63 on July 31, 2012, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: Coff 06 on July 31, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
Bet it will look great,but you should have went with an 18" wheel as the mileage on the 200/17 tires really suck,no matter which brand,if your able to get 7.5k out of any of them,you are doing better than the rest.I get 7k out of Dunlaps and that's the best,have got as little 2.5k out of Metzlers.Good luck,and can't wait for pics.        Coff 06
I have had the same experience, terrible mileage with 17in 200 mm tires.  Anyone out there with a logical reason why?

Bigger tire patch requires a sticky tire, even if it's multi ply, you still need a stickier tire, wider tires would slide if they weren't a sport type rubber, aka stickier, than the narrower ones, sport bikes all run 180-190-200mm tires and don't get any milage out of them either... party due to the high speed performance of those bikes ,but also the tire make up.  7k is the norm for me and most.  I have heard that Micellin's Commander II's and American Elite III'S (Dunlop) claim higher milage, but I'm not convinved their 200mm tires will, we'll have to wait and see or try one on, next time I need a rear, which will be next riding season, I'm going to try one of them.  Probbaly start with the AE III, since I like Dunlops.

Deye76

"Probbaly start with the AE III, since I like Dunlops."

Your correct about wider tires. Friend has a 200 on his RK, tried AE3, and a couple others. Normal riding, goes through a tire each season.
East Tenn.<br /> 2020 Lowrider S Touring, 2014 CVO RK,  1992 FXRP

TA63

Quote from: Deye76 on August 01, 2012, 04:48:56 AM
"Probbaly start with the AE III, since I like Dunlops."

Your correct about wider tires. Friend has a 200 on his RK, tried AE3, and a couple others. Normal riding, goes through a tire each season.

Me too.  I normally get 5k out of the metzler 880's I like to run.

PoorUB

Quote from: Deye76 on August 01, 2012, 04:48:56 AM
"Probbaly start with the AE III, since I like Dunlops."

Your correct about wider tires. Friend has a 200 on his RK, tried AE3, and a couple others. Normal riding, goes through a tire each season.

How many miles in a "season". I know guys that replace rear tires twice a season, and put over 30,000 miles on the bike!
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

ΚĜΗΟŜΤ

Could you post a parts list and describe any extra work such as cutting and welding you may have had to do???

I have a 04 and would like to upgrade to the 200 myself!!
Member since 2004

Deye76

Kghost, what model bike?
East Tenn.<br /> 2020 Lowrider S Touring, 2014 CVO RK,  1992 FXRP

Deye76

Quote from: PoorUB on August 01, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on August 01, 2012, 04:48:56 AM
"Probbaly start with the AE III, since I like Dunlops."

Your correct about wider tires. Friend has a 200 on his RK, tried AE3, and a couple others. Normal riding, goes through a tire each season.

How many miles in a "season". I know guys that replace rear tires twice a season, and put over 30,000 miles on the bike!
If you know someone who gets 15K out of a 200 tire, enlighten us to the brand.
East Tenn.<br /> 2020 Lowrider S Touring, 2014 CVO RK,  1992 FXRP

ΚĜΗΟŜΤ

Quote from: Deye76 on August 02, 2012, 04:14:50 AM
Kghost, what model bike?

2004 softail standard, basically the exact same as the nightrain.........I am also willing to change the rear fender from the bobtail to a fatboy style.....

One note, I am running a 95" with ~ 95 hp and 100 lbft tourque.....will the one inch belt handle it?
Member since 2004

silvrbill

I have had the same experience, terrible mileage with 17in 200 mm tires.  Anyone out there with a logical reason why?
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They start out with less tread depth that most other sizes is one reason.
http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tire-catalog/harley-davidson/dunlop-harley-davidson-tire-series/d407/
http://www.avonmotorcycle.com/

NCTURBOS

Quote from: ΚĜΗΟŜΤ on August 02, 2012, 04:04:57 AM
Could you post a parts list and describe any extra work such as cutting and welding you may have had to do???

I have a 04 and would like to upgrade to the 200 myself!!

I'm doing this project as we speak...  You'll need to cut the rear fender frame mounts off, and either dice them up to space them out, leave them off entirely, or purchase the bolt-on mounts from a newer Softail and cut/weld them on.  If you leave them off entirely plan on solo riding only!  You'll then need the rear fender of your choice from a newer Softail with the 200mm tire, as well as the fender strut covers and mounting hardware.  From there my project will be different from yours as I have a chain drive conversion, will be using a Buell XB9R wheel, custom rotor & sprocket, etc...


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zoomblack

August 03, 2012, 03:05:31 AM #18 Last Edit: August 03, 2012, 11:03:12 AM by zoomblack
06 seat
1in.belt
06 rear pulley
rear wheel
06brake caliper
06caliper bracket
lower belt guard
rear fender splash guard
outter struts
inner struts
7/16 spacer wheel to pulley
trim brake tab on swingarm
cut off struts
cut and fit weld on new struts
rear fender i used a 08 crossbones

PoorUB

Quote from: Deye76 on August 02, 2012, 04:16:05 AM
Quote from: PoorUB on August 01, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on August 01, 2012, 04:48:56 AM
"Probbaly start with the AE III, since I like Dunlops."

Your correct about wider tires. Friend has a 200 on his RK, tried AE3, and a couple others. Normal riding, goes through a tire each season.

How many miles in a "season". I know guys that replace rear tires twice a season, and put over 30,000 miles on the bike!
If you know someone who gets 15K out of a 200 tire, enlighten us to the brand.

My point was "How many miles in a season?" I know guys that get ten seasons out of a tire. A season means little, how about miles instead? :nix:
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

hd06myway

Quote from: ΚĜΗΟŜΤ on August 02, 2012, 04:58:55 AM
Quote from: Deye76 on August 02, 2012, 04:14:50 AM
Kghost, what model bike?

2004 softail standard, basically the exact same as the nightrain.........I am also willing to change the rear fender from the bobtail to a fatboy style.....

One note, I am running a 95" with ~ 95 hp and 100 lbft tourque.....will the one inch belt handle it?

Not a problem, they use a 1" on the Vrod's.

koko3052

Quote from: PoorUB on August 03, 2012, 04:20:37 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on August 02, 2012, 04:16:05 AM
Quote from: PoorUB on August 01, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: Deye76 on August 01, 2012, 04:48:56 AM
"Probbaly start with the AE III, since I like Dunlops."

Your correct about wider tires. Friend has a 200 on his RK, tried AE3, and a couple others. Normal riding, goes through a tire each season.


How many miles in a "season". I know guys that replace rear tires twice a season, and put over 30,000 miles on the bike!
If you know someone who gets 15K out of a 200 tire, enlighten us to the brand.

My point was "How many miles in a season?" I know guys that get ten seasons out of a tire. A season means little, how about miles instead? :nix:
I'd be ecstatic to get 10 seasons (300,0000) out of a tire :hyst:  :hyst:  :hyst:

Deye76

"I know guys that get ten seasons out of a tire"

I don't know anyone who gets 10 seasons out of a tire. If I did, I'd clue them into dry rot.  :wink:
All the folks I know, ride, when not working.  The guy with the 200 on his RK gets about 10,000 miles before the it's toast.

Fanboy
East Tenn.<br /> 2020 Lowrider S Touring, 2014 CVO RK,  1992 FXRP

tomboyjr

  I did this to an '02 Deuce. Although I have heard different stories on whether the Deuce had a different swingarm from other softails.

I used an 18" 180 tire and wheel, with a bobtail fender from an 06 or later softail standard. Everything bolted right up. I believe I had to drill 2 mounting holes in the fender since the Deuce used that different strut cover. I also drilled 3 holes on the top of the fender to use my Deuce passenger backrest.

It looked great when I was done, especially with the SE LED tailight. I had bought the rear fender off ebay in black, so it matched (without a pinstripe.)