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124" build...I'll let the cat out of the bag

Started by No Cents, July 07, 2013, 10:36:26 AM

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CowboyTutt

All that with "loaner" heads!   :hyst:  Amazing.  Totally bad ass.  Very nice TQ curve.  Jim, just out of curiousity, how much max ignition timing was it able to take?  Any 124 that can break 150 HP is totally impressive.   :up: :up: :up: :koolaid1:

Regards,

-A- 

Raleigh111

June 01, 2016, 09:30:35 PM #4626 Last Edit: June 01, 2016, 09:36:36 PM by Raleigh111
640 cam
124 ci
hillside heads??
good exhaust
compression set where it should be angry
i would expect it to break the 150 mark!
maybe more with a better tunner :) :chop: :potstir:
nice job jim and ray
Harleys are addicting and im out of money. Accepting donations! 120 132hp 146tq

HD/Wrench

Quote from: Raleigh111 on June 01, 2016, 09:30:35 PM
640 cam
124 ci
hillside heads decked the heads to 84 cc  that is what they did
good exhaust
compression set where it should be angry
i would expect it to break the 150 mark!
maybe more with a better tunner :) :chop: :potstir:
nice job jim and ray

No Cents

   to clarify about the heads.
The previous owner of the heads tried to do the port work himself...and Scott @ Hillside just milled the heads to where the owner wanted them.
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

Admiral Akbar

Quote from: No Cents on June 02, 2016, 06:27:27 AM
   to clarify about the heads.
The previous owner of the heads tried to do the port work himself...and Scott @ Hillside just milled the heads to where the owner wanted them.

So they weren't really ported like Steve said originally?

Just Nick

June 02, 2016, 07:26:28 AM #4630 Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 07:28:43 AM by Just Nick
Quote from: Raleigh111 on June 01, 2016, 09:30:35 PM
640 cam
124 ci
hillside heads??
good exhaust
compression set where it should be angry
i would expect it to break the 150 mark!
maybe more with a better tunner :) :chop: :potstir: My Thoughts exactly, Definitely more there
nice job jim and ray
I'm never wrong , once I thought I was wrong , but I was wrong

HD/Wrench

Quote from: Max Headflow on June 02, 2016, 07:24:36 AM
Quote from: No Cents on June 02, 2016, 06:27:27 AM
   to clarify about the heads.
The previous owner of the heads tried to do the port work himself...and Scott @ Hillside just milled the heads to where the owner wanted them.

So they weren't really ported like Steve said originally?


I cleaned up the heads as the DIY porting job  by owner  was extremely rough.. Think  high speed air grinder and carbide cutter :nix:.. I spent a few hours  doing the best I could with what I had to work with. 

strokerjlk

For those paying attention and want to see the 150's for Hp  . The pipe is what pushed this over into the 150's
Would have been a another one of those mid 140's 124's without Rays barn built pipe . :beer:
A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis
repeated testing establishes theory

vincer77

Nice work Ray and Jim!  And just a reminder that Ray's pipe is available as a production piece from Burns Stainless

http://www.exhaustengineer.com/community/press-releases/nhb-exhaust-for-harley-davidson


Admiral Akbar


2006FXDCI

Vince , any chance you will be making a dyna pipe in the future ?
2006 Super glide 107" , 2005 electra glide 124"

StrokerDave


Templer

GREAT post read!!! I wonder if anyone can convince my wife that another say another $2K or so would make me MORE happy? Love that Exhaust!!! U-Tube sound post yet?? Passing alarmed parked cars must sound like a flock of birds???

Just Nick

Quote from: 2006FXDCI on June 02, 2016, 09:30:46 AM
Vince , any chance you will be making a dyna pipe in the future ?


They have thought about a Dyna exhaust but Mid controls make it hard to get equal lengths.


The pipe Vince posted retails at $1699 FYI 
I'm never wrong , once I thought I was wrong , but I was wrong

strokerjlk

A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis
repeated testing establishes theory

No Cents

  that's a perfect example of no matter what combo I've ran with this pipe...the curves are almost identical.
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

Just Nick

Quote from: No Cents on June 02, 2016, 10:46:42 AM
  that's a perfect example of no matter what combo I've ran with this pipe...the curves are almost identical.


All right that's it get off the computer and get on the bike you have no business any ware but riding for the next few weeks.  :kick: Go on get  :chop: ing
I'm never wrong , once I thought I was wrong , but I was wrong

No Cents

  it's raining right now...or I would be  :cry:
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

groundhog143

Well if you not going to ride it,you must be out in the barn checkin the CCP :potstir:

johncr

June 02, 2016, 11:45:08 AM #4644 Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 11:48:52 AM by johncr
Quote from: No Cents on June 02, 2016, 11:13:32 AM
  it's raining right now...or I would be  :cry:
Time for a video than?

Admiral Akbar

Quote from: strokerjlk on June 02, 2016, 10:10:54 AM
The old heads vs the loaner heads .


It's a little odd that only the heads made the change equally across the board. I would have though that the better heads would have showed more up top and not so much on the bottom.. There is a greater improvement up top for sure. Was there anything else that changed?   What would contribute to more power across the band?    cams were the same?  Compression ratio?   Gear?  Weather conditions?

Don D

84cc, domed pistons, 124"
Compression !
The air pump only has so much demand.
good heads, bad heads, loaner heads, they met the demand.

No Cents

   Max...the only change to this combo is the heads in that graph comparison.
Same exhaust, same pistons, same 640 cams, and same ratio rocker arms in both graphs.
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

No Cents

Quote from: groundhog143 on June 02, 2016, 11:43:08 AM
Well if you not going to ride it,you must be out in the barn checkin the CCP :potstir:


  nope...making lasagna for supper.
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

No Cents

08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae