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124" build...I'll let the cat out of the bag

Started by No Cents, July 07, 2013, 10:36:26 AM

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Jonny Cash

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Quote from: strokerjlk on July 22, 2015, 07:57:06 AM
QuoteI don't want to muck up Rays excellent thread, but since it has come up, I have been considering running the AMRA .  bagger class.  I ran a Bracket car for years, but this will be the first time running a bike.  Any body care to share some tips for getting started, tire pressure etc.?  I have an excellent local 1/8 mile track here is southern IL that runs a Friday test and tune and bike class, hope to get my launches down her before I try an AMRA race.
I share a little with ya .
I have ran as low as 13 psi and as high as 24 psi in the rear tire.
Practicing your launch on the street will not help you hone your track launch . In fact it will probably screw you up .
As you already know ,no two tracks are exactly the same . 
Going to my local track doesn't help me much . In fact I only go to have some fun . They really don't know how to prep a track for bikes .maybe I 57 is better .  :nix:

If you come to an AMRA race with a street tire , you have to line up out of the groove . Far right or far left of the groove . Only slick bikes get to launch in the groove .
So when T&Ting be sure and get out of the groove if your trying to improve your launch . You might get by with launching in the groove at T&T . But Marty or Jimmu will jump your Azz if they catch ya .
Most of the tracks we run know how to prep for bikes , so we get a pretty sticky pad to launch from .
It does take a while for the outside to start to come around for us street tire guys . So be patient and wait a little before you make big changes in pressure and rpms .
Good luck and hope to see ya there . Be good to have another IL. Guy around

Thanks.  haven't been to I 57 in awhile, and they are undergoing a complete makeover right now, really impressive.  The old track here in Harrisburg was completely re-done a few years ago and is outstanding.  last Saturday  Baird brought his front engine dragster down from Assumption and went 3.99 @ 181
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mr_natural78


Thanks.  haven't been to I 57 in awhile, and they are undergoing a complete makeover right now, really impressive.  The old track here in Harrisburg was completely re-done a few years ago and is outstanding.  last Saturday  Baird brought his front engine dragster down from Assumption and went 3.99 @ 181
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I spent a little time in Harrisburg once....as a juvenile......... :oops:
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Jonny Cash

Quote from: mr_natural78 on July 24, 2015, 08:48:46 AM

Thanks.  haven't been to I 57 in awhile, and they are undergoing a complete makeover right now, really impressive.  The old track here in Harrisburg was completely re-done a few years ago and is outstanding.  last Saturday  Baird brought his front engine dragster down from Assumption and went 3.99 @ 181

I spent a little time in Harrisburg once....as a juvenile......... :oops:
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LOL!!  so have a lot of kids
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strokerjlk

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repeated testing establishes theory

No Cents

 ...the 640's are still in there...I've just been riding it every day as it sits.
I got a Bandit clutch coming that will hopefully take care of the clutch slippage. I can feel it still slipping badly in 2nd gear when it's cold...even with the heavier weights.

Ray
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

1FSTRK

Quote from: No Cents on July 25, 2015, 05:14:43 AM
...the 640's are still in there...I've just been riding it every day as it sits.
I got a Bandit clutch coming that will hopefully take care of the clutch slippage. I can feel it still slipping badly in 2nd gear when it's cold...even with the heavier weights.

Ray

:up: :up:
"Never hang on to a mistake just because you spent time or money making it."

Nowhereman

Man, I hear that.
Going through the same thing now.
I am gong to try Rekluse's torque drive setup for my 127 to see if it solves the slip issue.
Looking at the frictions, they show lots of wear.
I'm going back to a diaphragm spring also instead of the coil spring set up.
- From Nowhere in particular

pwmorris

Quote from: No Cents on July 25, 2015, 05:14:43 AM
...the 640's are still in there...I've just been riding it every day as it sits.
I got a Bandit clutch coming that will hopefully take care of the clutch slippage. I can feel it still slipping badly in 2nd gear when it's cold...even with the heavier weights.

Ray
Better be a Superclutch-a sportsman ain't gonna cut it. This is the time for the MTC multi stage hat on top of it if this bike wants to compete at the track. Bandits 3 finger is OK but it is only one stage and once it locks up, ....wheelie time....with no bar on it.

harleytuner

I have a customer running the AIM CF2 clutch in his Road King.  HP and TRQ in the 140's.  No Slip being reported and he runs it at the strip.

strokerjlk

Quote from: No Cents on July 25, 2015, 05:14:43 AM
...the 640's are still in there...I've just been riding it every day as it sits.
I got a Bandit clutch coming that will hopefully take care of the clutch slippage. I can feel it still slipping badly in 2nd gear when it's cold...even with the heavier weights.

Ray
Your gonna like the bandit .
Since it is a 6 sp model it is a super clutch per say already .
More coefficient of friction since it is the 6 sp model also.
I just beat the 1/8 MPH record during 1st round of qualifying.
Beat the 1/4 mile mph record during T&T this morning also .( dosent count )
#1 qualifier after 1 st round .

A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis
repeated testing establishes theory

pwmorris

Quote from: strokerjlk on July 25, 2015, 10:36:09 AM
Quote from: No Cents on July 25, 2015, 05:14:43 AM
...the 640's are still in there...I've just been riding it every day as it sits.
I got a Bandit clutch coming that will hopefully take care of the clutch slippage. I can feel it still slipping badly in 2nd gear when it's cold...even with the heavier weights.

Ray
Your gonna like the bandit .
Since it is a 6 sp model it is a super clutch per say already .
More coefficient of friction since it is the 6 sp model also.
I just beat the 1/8 MPH record during 1st round of qualifying.
Beat the 1/4 mile mph record during T&T this morning also .( dosent count )
#1 qualifier after 1 st round .

Damn....that's what I'm talking about! Nice-
60 in the 1.60's for a land yacht is hittin it...
Now that looks like some serious bagger HP! Finally a threat for Bagger King Dennick.

mike jesse

Big MPH at the 1/8 and 1/4. Making steam.

strokerjlk

Thanks guys.
Short lived though.
Paul ran a 10.27 ...110 mph 1/8 mile 136 1/4 mile mph
Still one round of qualifying to go
A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis
repeated testing establishes theory

No Cents

 I just ran a little over 200 miles...and got sun burnt...if that counts for anything.  :embarrassed:
nice job Jim!  :up:

Ray
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Quote from: strokerjlk on July 25, 2015, 10:36:09 AM
Quote from: No Cents on July 25, 2015, 05:14:43 AM
...the 640's are still in there...I've just been riding it every day as it sits.
I got a Bandit clutch coming that will hopefully take care of the clutch slippage. I can feel it still slipping badly in 2nd gear when it's cold...even with the heavier weights.

Ray
Your gonna like the bandit .
Since it is a 6 sp model it is a super clutch per say already .
More coefficient of friction since it is the 6 sp model also.
I just beat the 1/8 MPH record during 1st round of qualifying.
Beat the 1/4 mile mph record during T&T this morning also .( dosent count )
#1 qualifier after 1 st round .


Very impressive..

No Cents

Quote from: 2006FXDCI on July 25, 2015, 03:17:06 PM
Are the 640's growing on you yet ?
Josh...the 640's are definitely tamer when comparing them to the 651's.
Right now I'm just happy being able to put it in the wind.
It has no trouble lighting the back tire up at will with the 640's. Randy can testify to that after our 200 mile ride we did today. We both marked the roads up pretty good on occasion. The other 5 bikes that were riding with us were in awe after seeing the display of what our bikes could do.
  In the end...the 651's will eventually go back in it with a couple of other changes...but for right now I'm just going to keep riding it the way it is and get some quality seat time the rest of this season.

Ray

08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

hrdtail78

It would be nice to compare partial throttle pulls between to two cams.   One might react way different with exhaust at say 25% throttle than the other.
Semper Fi

No Cents

 yes it would Jason...but unfortunately I don't have a dyno to do such testing.
I would be a testing nut if I owned a dyno like you.

Ray
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

Just Nick

Quote from: Nowhereman on July 25, 2015, 07:45:27 AM
Man, I hear that.
Going through the same thing now.
I am gong to try Rekluse's torque drive setup for my 127 to see if it solves the slip issue.
Looking at the frictions, they show lots of wear.
I'm going back to a diaphragm spring also instead of the coil spring set up.

On a motor of that size I would go straight to the bandit clutch they have been proven. We have never had any luck with rekluse unless you want "automatic"
I'm never wrong , once I thought I was wrong , but I was wrong

Nowhereman

Quote from: Just Nick on July 26, 2015, 07:27:27 AM
Quote from: Nowhereman on July 25, 2015, 07:45:27 AM
Man, I hear that.
Going through the same thing now.
I am gong to try Rekluse's torque drive setup for my 127 to see if it solves the slip issue.
Looking at the frictions, they show lots of wear.
I'm going back to a diaphragm spring also instead of the coil spring set up.

On a motor of that size I would go straight to the bandit clutch they have been proven. We have never had any luck with rekluse unless you want "automatic"

It looks to be a nicely built unit but dropping a thousand plus for a clutch for a street bike makes one pause for thought if you know what I mean.
Lets see now, 1000 for the clutch and another 1000 for the pipe.
I need to sell some stuff from my bike parts bin.
- From Nowhere in particular

Just Nick

Quote from: Nowhereman on July 26, 2015, 07:39:29 AM
Quote from: Just Nick on July 26, 2015, 07:27:27 AM
Quote from: Nowhereman on July 25, 2015, 07:45:27 AM
Man, I hear that.
Going through the same thing now.
I am gong to try Rekluse's torque drive setup for my 127 to see if it solves the slip issue.
Looking at the frictions, they show lots of wear.
I'm going back to a diaphragm spring also instead of the coil spring set up.

On a motor of that size I would go straight to the bandit clutch they have been proven. We have never had any luck with rekluse unless you want "automatic"

It looks to be a nicely built unit but dropping a thousand plus for a clutch for a street bike makes one pause for thought if you know what I mean.
Lets see now, 1000 for the clutch and another 1000 for the pipe.
I need to sell some stuff from my bike parts bin.

Bandit sportsman clutch is 550 retail plus another 30 bucks for the blue springs.

What you got for sale  :wink:
I'm never wrong , once I thought I was wrong , but I was wrong

No Cents

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