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S&S T143 Project Dragon is running in the 9's

Started by No Cents, October 06, 2015, 06:57:13 PM

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dirty jim

WOW! I WOULD'VE NEVER THOUGHT THAT MUCH, FOR THAT LITTLE.

Racepres

Quote from: pwmorris on December 31, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
Still whipping all comers at the street drags-

https://youtu.be/IwuC9V48epg

Untimed Street Drags??
Who was there??
Pretty Official "Potty mouth" right there huh???
Jim; We gotta get those Outlaw street bagger guys registered..
No Smoke and Mirrors No more....
Tho they are a Sponsor...I don't believe in Racing with a Class of One...NHRA "Potty mouth" that is....
Obviously I'm Not...a FanBoy!!!!

strokerjlk

Quote from: Racepres on January 01, 2016, 06:52:56 PM
Quote from: pwmorris on December 31, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
Still whipping all comers at the street drags-

https://youtu.be/IwuC9V48epg

Untimed Street Drags??
Who was there??
Pretty Official "Potty mouth" right there huh???
Jim; We gotta get those Outlaw street bagger guys registered..
No Smoke and Mirrors No more....
Tho they are a Sponsor...I don't believe in Racing with a Class of One...NHRA "Potty mouth" that is....
Obviously I'm Not...a FanBoy!!!!
July 23 -24 Martin Mi.invitation is extended
A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis
repeated testing establishes theory

pwmorris

Quote from: Racepres on January 01, 2016, 06:52:56 PM
Quote from: pwmorris on December 31, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
Still whipping all comers at the street drags-

https://youtu.be/IwuC9V48epg

Untimed Street Drags??
Who was there??
Pretty Official "Potty mouth" right there huh???
Jim; We gotta get those Outlaw street bagger guys registered..
No Smoke and Mirrors No more....
Tho they are a Sponsor...I don't believe in Racing with a Class of One...NHRA "Potty mouth" that is....
Obviously I'm Not...a FanBoy!!!!
No doubt, the Dragon is doing local street stuff in WI, and local tracks. Looking around, up to this point, there hasn't been a sanctioned heads up class for the Dragon to run has there?
As you know the purpose of the Dragon is for S&S to show what a stock, crate, street 143" bagger motor can do with chassis and other mods to make it go fast at the track-and get exposure, publicity, and sell more 143" motors. It's marketing 101...

A 143" crate motor stock makes 160-170 hp which might not even be competitive in the current 124" Bagger Class where Paul Victory owns all et and mph records- with almost 20 less cubes.

If a 150" or 160" Outlaw Bagger class becomes a reality, I sure would love to see the Dragon play, but the 143" motor would have to be redone to full race mode to be competitive. Probably gonna need at least 250 hp to play up there...and say bye bye to being a crate motor. S&S built the crate 124" when it came out at 130 or so hp and sponsored the AHDRA 124" class, but those motors quickly became "race only" 15-1 CR beasts with 200 hp plus to compete at the top...

I haven't seen anyone yet who is buying these 143" motors actually drag race them. I think most everyone is buying them to cruze around town in, have that big hp available to twist the throttle every once in a while, and show off to their buddies.
AHDRA had a Harley Davidson sponsored Screamin' Eagle bagger class to promote their 120R motor when it came out and sometimes there was not a single guy running, or maybe one or two. Hopefully more of the 143" bagger guys out there actually take them out and rip them at the track-I'm sure S&S hopes so...

No Cents

      did anyone notice the seat that guy was using on the Dragon T143 in the video?
...or should I say lack of a seat. It looks more like a thin piece of form fitted rubber that has more added back support to keep the rider planted in the seat.

Ray
08 FLHX my grocery getter, 124ci, wfolarry 110" heads, Burns pipe, 158/152 sae

IronMike113

Quote from: strokerjlk on January 01, 2016, 06:49:27 PM
Quote from: dirty jim on January 01, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
WOW! I WOULD'VE NEVER THOUGHT THAT MUCH, FOR THAT LITTLE.
interesting read

http://www.superstreetbike.com/features/kawasaki-zx-14r-streetbike-street-legal-slayer


After establishing stout baseline numbers of 183.31 HP @ 109.6 LB-FT on the notoriously conservative dyno at Herrera Racing, we hit Auto Club Dragway in Fontana for some baseline drag-strip times.
On a damp, cool morning, the box-stock Kawi ran a string of 9.80s with a one-off Hail Mary time of 9.59 @ 150 MPH. In stock form it was a handful through the first three gears as anything nearing full throttle sent the front tire flying. Auggie and Gaige Herrera from Herrera Racing were at the helm, and they discovered that bogging off the line and flirting with full throttle through the first eighth mile was the quickest method to a better ET. The high 9.50 ET was hardly repeatable, as Gaige could barely keep the ZX-14R planted and pointed straight.
The stock bike had more power than its height could harness, so the first order of business was lowering the ride height. It was an easy and inexpensive fix thanks to Roaring Toyz lowering links and Brock's Performance lowering straps. To ensure the motor was protected from the rigors of racing, Amsoil synthetic 10W-40 oil was added along with a K&N oil filter.
With the stance slammed, another trip to Fontana netted a more consistent string of 9.40s with a best of 9.30 @ 151 MPH. But low stance or not, it still wheelied in first and second gear. The factory stroker motor makes so much midrange that the decked ride height didn't matter, WOT was impossible until half-track. It was a great start, but the 14 was still a long way from the 8s.


That read is just crazy Insane,That is one dangerous bike!
2 Bikes and 2 Beemers, that's what I have been told 😳

sfmichael

Quote from: IRONMIKE113 on January 03, 2016, 05:36:59 AM
Quote from: strokerjlk on January 01, 2016, 06:49:27 PM
Quote from: dirty jim on January 01, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
WOW! I WOULD'VE NEVER THOUGHT THAT MUCH, FOR THAT LITTLE.
interesting read

http://www.superstreetbike.com/features/kawasaki-zx-14r-streetbike-street-legal-slayer


After establishing stout baseline numbers of 183.31 HP @ 109.6 LB-FT on the notoriously conservative dyno at Herrera Racing, we hit Auto Club Dragway in Fontana for some baseline drag-strip times.
On a damp, cool morning, the box-stock Kawi ran a string of 9.80s with a one-off Hail Mary time of 9.59 @ 150 MPH. In stock form it was a handful through the first three gears as anything nearing full throttle sent the front tire flying. Auggie and Gaige Herrera from Herrera Racing were at the helm, and they discovered that bogging off the line and flirting with full throttle through the first eighth mile was the quickest method to a better ET. The high 9.50 ET was hardly repeatable, as Gaige could barely keep the ZX-14R planted and pointed straight.
The stock bike had more power than its height could harness, so the first order of business was lowering the ride height. It was an easy and inexpensive fix thanks to Roaring Toyz lowering links and Brock's Performance lowering straps. To ensure the motor was protected from the rigors of racing, Amsoil synthetic 10W-40 oil was added along with a K&N oil filter.
With the stance slammed, another trip to Fontana netted a more consistent string of 9.40s with a best of 9.30 @ 151 MPH. But low stance or not, it still wheelied in first and second gear. The factory stroker motor makes so much midrange that the decked ride height didn't matter, WOT was impossible until half-track. It was a great start, but the 14 was still a long way from the 8s.


That read is just crazy Insane,That is one dangerous bike!

that was a good read (thanks) and yes, a crazy fast :smileo: bike without doing anything to the motor!!
I'll likely own one someday...I've always liked 'em  :up:
Colorado Springs, CO.

Just Nick

Quote from: dirty jim on January 01, 2016, 06:47:32 AM
THE "DUCT TAPE" SEAT IS AN INTERESTING MODIFICATION. I WONDER HOW MUCH A LOWER C/G MAKES TIME WISE?

What does c/g stand for ?
I'm never wrong , once I thought I was wrong , but I was wrong

HighLiner

Quote from: Just Nick on January 23, 2016, 04:33:09 PM
Quote from: dirty jim on January 01, 2016, 06:47:32 AM
THE "DUCT TAPE" SEAT IS AN INTERESTING MODIFICATION. I WONDER HOW MUCH A LOWER C/G MAKES TIME WISE?

What does c/g stand for ?

Center of gravity