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Oklahoma Indian Reservation Cigarettes?

Started by 04fatty, April 10, 2009, 08:03:25 AM

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apendejo

I do have one question, however. You wouldn't put water in your engine's oil tank. So why do you put smoke in your lungs?

It's an old Native American thing. :wink:
AP

Ultrashovel

Quote from: apendejo on April 10, 2009, 03:23:26 PM
Well whadda ya know, I was listening to a radio show this morning about diet. Seems that saturated fat contains no cholesterol. Carbohydrates are loaded with cholesterol and sugar.
So, I am gonna eat all the fatty steaks, butter, cream cheese etc that I want. Just stay away from the carbs and veggies. Veggies you ask? Why do cows have 3 stomachs, so they can extract what little nutritional value that grass and veggies contain. So everything I have learned the last 40 years about diet from pros such as Atkins is BS.
There are 3 types of lies
1. Lies
2. Damned Lies
3. Statistics
AP

Wow is that all messed up!

Tsani

Quote from: Jim Bronson on April 10, 2009, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: ceduby on April 10, 2009, 11:44:07 AM
Does anyone care to try sticking to the topic???? I reread it and I don't see anywhere where he asks if smoking is ok or not!!!!!! This is an endless and pointless discussion.

Yes it got OT when someone asserted that smoking is not dangerous. That's not correct, and a counterpoint was offered.

I will disagree with you on that. It got off topic with the first reply and went down hill after that. And folks wonder why they yank postings around here?
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apendejo

Wow is that all messed up!
Why yes, it is. :hyst:
Now don't even get me going on the gasoline additive MTBE or better yet Vapor Trails. :smilep:
AP

busmechanic1

Jeeeezzzzzz----- All the man was asking for was some info---- his health is his biz---- as long as he dont smoke around someone who objects

Ultrashovel

Where's the bird....oh, sorry...I forgot. That was only for the mindless, endless, non-meaningfull oil threads that we used to have to endure.....sorry.

:pop:

dakota224


Burch

One of the substitutes on my pool team orders his smokes from an Indian resrervation in Oklahoma. Has the sent to Michigan. (This is what he told me, I have no idea if this is legal, if he pays taxes or shipping on them or anything like that)

I'll find out where and let ya know. Thought he told me they were about $17 a carton. I may see him this weekend, as he hangs out at the bar we shoot pool for.

I used to smoke, and quit a year ago.......both the choices were mine!! Just saying.

If ya want to start a anti-smoking thread, then start it as a new post. But the man asked a simple question in a free country. If ya can not answer it, then read it and move on!! :wtf:

One thing I hate is being "preached" to...I know what is goood or bad for me...I'm not an idiot. Just ask the Bible Thumpers who showed up a few weeks ago while I was getting my garage together!!

Let the man live his OWN life...once again  :wtf:

BURCH
Burch

specialx1

it's only kinky the first time

Joncin

BURCH nailed it.

I quit almost 5 years ago, but I smoked 3+ packs a day for 33 years and it really pissed me off when people tired to tell me to quit, because it was none of the effin business.  :angry:

If you can't answer the original question, STFU.............please.  :teeth:

JamLazyAss

I'm not a proctologist, but I know an asshole when I see one...

Burch

Hey JamLazy,

The sun causes cancer too!!  :hyst:

Better stay inside!!

Stir on!! :potstir:

Burch
Burch

mite5255

why buy from a reservation,are they cheaper there

Ultrashovel

Quote from: mite5255 on April 10, 2009, 07:40:44 PM
why buy from a reservation,are they cheaper there

They're cheaper because, as I understand it, they are sold without federal tax. The various Indian tribes consider themselves to be sovereign nations and don't like to submit to federal US rules.

The problem with this that all cigarettes sold within the US are subject to federal taxes, regardless of who sells them and if the taxes are not paid at the time of purchase, then they are due at some point in the future from the user

There have been cases where purchases made from Indian smoke shops have been traced through credit card records and taxes and charged back to  the purchasers. This can amount to a considerable amount of money.

If you don't believe me, like Yogi Berra once said, "You could look it up".

My wife likes to go out on the back porch and puff a ciggy now and then. She doesn't buy them every week, just a pack now and then. She was shocked the other day to discover that between California and Federal tax increases that her favorinte brand, Virginia Slims Lights are now $7.00 a pack!!!!!!! She now smokes less than one ciggy every three days and has decided to quit very soon.

Holy Bankruptcy, Bat Man! $7.00 a pack!!!!!!!!!!!!

hunter

04fatty,

I'll try to get by a reservation soon and check on the price.  There isn't a casino near me but I'll see what I can do.  I wouldn't be surprised to see some profiteering.

You'd think that a forum that is populated with people that view themselves as "free spirits" because they own a vehicle with two wheels and wear jeans/blackleather/boots/dorags (essentially a uniform) might embrace the freedom to smoke because that's what you want to do and  would think random morons don't have the right to fill you with their personal concerns - valid or otherwise.  For all the talk of "1 percenters" here, can someone find me one that wants to be a poster child for tobacco cessation?  Not likely.  My guess is they'd rather put their cigarette out on you.  Save yourself.

04fatty, I'm going to the garage to fire up my pipe in celebration of your right to smoke tobacco without the guilt of the government and some of the pansies here.

Panzer

Everyone wants to change the world but, no one wants to change the toilet paper.

04fatty

I didn't think my little post would blow up like this. First the government F's with me and my wallet, then my fellow bikers beat on me, too. I smoke and I enjoy it. Some of you drink and that'll be what gets you, some eat donuts and that'll run you into the ground. I try to "live and let live." HUNTER, if you make it over to a res. or a casino please let me know where and how much a carton of Marlboro reds is going for. You can PM me if you like.

hunter


Burch

04Fatty,

Like I said, I'll find out for ya too.

If ya want to smoke, go ahead, screw the D-Bags that say it is not your choice!!

Ride Safe,

Burch
Burch

04fatty


TwistedSister

My  OM  is  in  Okiehomo  for  his  annual  Morrel Mushroom  Huntin/family  visit.
IF  I  can  get  ahold  of him,  will  see  if  he'll  do  a  check  at  the  Indian  Smoke  shoppe  there. 
It may  be  a  few  days  before  I  can  get  back  to  ya.
Drinking doesn't cause hangovers... waking up  does...
TS
SW Arkisaw USN RET

PoorUB

April 11, 2009, 05:32:55 AM #46 Last Edit: April 11, 2009, 05:34:57 AM by PoorUB
I don't care if people smoke, at least not around me. What I do get a kick out of is when a person that drinks and smokes like there is no tommorrow gives me crap about how I spend my money! (I don't smoke, anymore anyway, and drink next to nothing!) I have had it happen several times after buying a "big" ticket item. People drink and smoke up thousands of dollars a year and think nothing of it, but if I go and spend $3000 on a TV I get crap about it! I know know one guy that smokes and drinks, and spends a minimum of $250  week in bars, but man, if I spend a few dollars he is right in my face because I have "money rolling out of my a**!" That is a quote right from him!
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

HDDOC

2019 Tri Glide

HDSlowride

Quote from: HDSlowride on April 10, 2009, 10:08:08 AM
I apologize for butting in. The guy that has worked next to me in my department for the last 20 years just buried his younger brother. His brother got small cell lung cancer and lived three weeks after the diagnosis. Only 56 years old. Left behind two children, his wife and a couple grand-kids who don't undertand why paw-paw had to go away forever. Smoking caused his untimely death. Very sad. I wish everyone that smokes would suddenly experience an extreme dislike for the habit and throw them away. And live longer.

This was what I first posted. I don't think this is beating on anybody. I would wish that my fellow bikers would have a better chance for a longer and healthier life. I'm fresh off seeing the anguish that my co-worker (worked right beside him for 20 years now in the same department) went through during the three weeks his baby brother was dieing and then the week after his funeral. So cut me some slack, too.

And oh yeah....I buried my own dad when he was 54 years old...a two or three pack a day smoker. That was 32 years ago and I quit smoking 29 years ago myself. I wouldn't have wanted anybody telling me to quit either so I understand where you smokers are coming from. When I was in the Navy we bought them for $1.35 a CARTON when we were out at sea. I think I quit when they went to 60 cents a pack. So....smoke 'em if you got 'em. I hope you aren't one of the unlucky ones to die from emphysema or lung cancer. It's a horrible way to go.
'07 Ultra Classic

Burch

HDslowride,

Give it up man!! The thread is STILL about where to buy smokes, not what they can do to ya!!

Burch
Burch