M8 trans fluid leaking in primary

[rbabos]

What about making left hand turns.

Or even right hand turns depending on your speed because centrifugal force would tend to push fluid to the left if you're doing high speed twisties. Or maybe I'm clueless. 

Centrifugal force will be centered in the bike or you would fall over. Fluid remains in the same position as upright during turns at speed.
Ron

[Oz Dan]

Would it be a good idea to install this kit as PM on a bike that doesn't seem to have the transfer issue at this time?

What I find odd the damn things are all built the same so they should all transfer or not transfer. How it's operated seems to be the only logical cause, as in higher rpms vs lower rpms operation. As for the new part , can't see it hurting and could be called an upgrade, providing it actually does what it claims to do. Jury still out on that.
Ron

The rpm thing does seem logical, but my M8 has been dyno tuned twice. It didn't transfer any oil during either tune, and I watched them do the tunes......ran then right up to red line multiple times.  Nor does it transfer during regular riding, sometimes at high rpm, and I now have over 20,000 km.......I can't get my head around why most don't but some do either.

Its been reported that some do it while sitting on the kickstand and idling, that makes since with the bike at an angle. I wonder if the ones transfuring really bad on the dyno were at an angle?

lol. I doubt it. I know many seem suspicious when people report no transfer under conditions they have witnessed it, but it is what it is. How can there be some inherent design flaw if my M8 has undergone two dyno sessions without any transfer, and covered 20,000km again without transfer?

A mystery for sure, but if anyone dynos bikes on the side stand or on an angle, I'd lmao. Would be a pretty unique set up hey?

[hd06]

I cam ride mine 240 miles and loose 4 oz.

[hd06]

 My bad not lose but transfer.

[pappashelby]

Interesting, that kit is available in GB-36300028 retails for ~45 pounds. That's pricey, for 1 gasket and 1 plastic tube...

Am I missing something?  HD has a fluid transfer issue on the M8 motors and their solution is to have you buy the fix?

Pretty sure if your bike is under warranty they will put the kit in for free. The MoCo put a price on it just because someone will want to buy it.

Likely, once proof of transfer is shown and documented.
Ron

Shop said I transferred 12oz in 1k miles. They ordered the kit today. Will be done under warranty

Shop called today the kit is in . Probably won't take it in until Tuesday

[klammer76]

The saga continues...here's a thread on one of the latest attempts at a cure: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwaukee-eight-m8/1219654-the-fix-is-in.html

Last few pages, Bruce/Max/Admiral is getting involved...machining the nuts.

Looks like some decent results from their work. Check last couple of pages.

[kd]

Actually pg 22/ 23 on will be better to get the gist of it. 

[klammer76]

Actually pg 22/ 23 on will be better to get the gist of it. 

Yeah, that's what I meant, should have worded it that way  It appears to possibly be some decent progress.

[Bigs]

Does Harley have a notice or whatever for the transmission oil deflector kit. I'm trying to get it done under warranty and the dealer cannot find anything from
Harley yet.
   Bigs

[HV]

There is no service bulletin or advisory on this at all only the Part Number.....they will have to call the factory and request it be installed ...even then its not a sure thing that they will OK it

[Karl H.]

TRANSMISSION OIL DEFLECTOR KIT
Kit Number 36300028
Instruction J06703
Date 2018-01-31

[rbabos]

There is no service bulletin or advisory on this at all only the Part Number.....they will have to call the factory and request it be installed ...even then its not a sure thing that they will OK it

There was one. I read it for the part install. It has magically vanished from the internet. Translation, the damn thing likely never worked so they secretively dumped it.
Ron

[HV]

The only thing Ive seen is the Instruction sheet for that Part # ...even searching the HD Net site shows no actual Bulletin

[kd]

There is no service bulletin or advisory on this at all only the Part Number.....they will have to call the factory and request it be installed ...even then its not a sure thing that they will OK it

There was one. I read it for the part install. It has magically vanished from the internet. Translation, the damn thing likely never worked so they secretively dumped it.
Ron

..... or more likely, they are still following the 2 fixes that are being tested on the 2 Harley forums and trying to figure out which one is the cheapest and easiest to steal. 

[HV]

I know for a Fact they did away with their " Replace the front Main seal and spacer Fix " 

[HD/Wrench]

I know for a Fact they did away with their " Replace the front Main seal and spacer Fix " 

That was just silly . No way was it sucking fluid only  to the primary and then stopping .    Selective vacuum 

[Bigs]

I get a little ticked off with Harley. I live about 8 miles from the York plant and the dealer is about 1 mile away and they can't get anything from Harley yet but they say they will keep trying. If worse comes to worse I'll buy the kit and put it in myself.
   Bigs

[rbabos]

There is no service bulletin or advisory on this at all only the Part Number.....they will have to call the factory and request it be installed ...even then its not a sure thing that they will OK it

There was one. I read it for the part install. It has magically vanished from the internet. Translation, the damn thing likely never worked so they secretively dumped it.
Ron

..... or more likely, they are still following the 2 fixes that are being tested on the 2 Harley forums and trying to figure out which one is the cheapest and easiest to steal. 

No chit!
Ron

[04 SE Deuce]

I know for a Fact they did away with their " Replace the front Main seal and spacer Fix " 

That was just silly . No way was it sucking fluid only  to the primary and then stopping .    Selective vacuum 

I thought that was far out when I first read it. 

So easy to have tested and proved/disproved this on a known transferring bike prior to making it an official recommendation.

[rbabos]

I know for a Fact they did away with their " Replace the front Main seal and spacer Fix " 

That was just silly . No way was it sucking fluid only  to the primary and then stopping .    Selective vacuum 

I thought that was far out when I first read it. 

So easy to have tested and proved/disproved this on a known transferring bike prior to making it an official recommendation.

Yes but nobody bothered.
Ron

[justaguy]

They are still saying to replace the front main seal and spacer for '14-'16 Models. The oil deflector kits are only for the M8 '17-'18. My service manager talked to them this at about a '16 that is transferring.

[twincamzz]

https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/service/document/379300

appears link is no longer valid... or at least for me. Is the MoCo trying to now pretend this part does not exist ? Too much demand ? Talked to my dealer this morning & was told to bring motorcycle in, let them drain & adjust fluid levels, then recheck in 1000 miles. Says this will have to happen at least THREE times before factory will consider installing this kit in my motorcycle, despite the fact that it has already been in for first attempt at repair under TA0022. WTF ?   

[les]

https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/service/document/379300

appears link is no longer valid... or at least for me. Is the MoCo trying to now pretend this part does not exist ? Too much demand ? Talked to my dealer this morning & was told to bring motorcycle in, let them drain & adjust fluid levels, then recheck in 1000 miles. Says this will have to happen at least THREE times before factory will consider installing this kit in my motorcycle, despite the fact that it has already been in for first attempt at repair under TA0022. WTF ?   

Hmmm...I wonder what your state lemon law specifies about the repeat count.  Three times and a new motorcycle, perhaps?

[Hossamania]

https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/service/document/379300

appears link is no longer valid... or at least for me. Is the MoCo trying to now pretend this part does not exist ? Too much demand ? Talked to my dealer this morning & was told to bring motorcycle in, let them drain & adjust fluid levels, then recheck in 1000 miles. Says this will have to happen at least THREE times before factory will consider installing this kit in my motorcycle, despite the fact that it has already been in for first attempt at repair under TA0022. WTF ?   

Hmmm...I wonder what your state lemon law specifies about the repeat count.  Three times and a new motorcycle, perhaps?

That's been brought up, evidently it doesn't always apply to motorcycles.

[rbabos]

https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/service/document/379300

appears link is no longer valid... or at least for me. Is the MoCo trying to now pretend this part does not exist ? Too much demand ? Talked to my dealer this morning & was told to bring motorcycle in, let them drain & adjust fluid levels, then recheck in 1000 miles. Says this will have to happen at least THREE times before factory will consider installing this kit in my motorcycle, despite the fact that it has already been in for first attempt at repair under TA0022. WTF ?   

That's the one I was talking about. I got to read it and next time I went to look it was a dead link, just like that. Also read about the same time someone had it installed and it didn't solve the problem. Coincidence?
Ron