Randy asked me to post these pic's for him.
He said more to come.
Ray
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Sweet! -Tutt :koolaid:
Cool.
Did it come with a "Shoehorn"?
I hear the new motor mount is lower and necessary to fit the motor into the frame. Is there going to be enough clearance to remove the rocker box covers without pulling the engine out? -Tutt
I was riding with a friend who had an S&S 124" with leineweber cams and I could feel it running beside me like sledgehammers hittin the ground.. The 144" is sure to set off alarms blocks away. :up:
Quote from: No Cents on October 02, 2014, 03:10:20 PM
Randy asked me to post these pic's for him.
He said more to come.
Ray
Looks awesome just sitting there Ray. :smiled:
What size are those intake ports? :dgust: It looks (by the photo) you could use tennis balls to block them off. Maybe it's just the pic.
2007 up on the instruction sheet . OMG I knew if had to fit :banghead:$$$$
DAM Daddy like that!
Those heads look familiar...
Ugh, my mouth is watering! Post video!!
FYI. I have to pull my motor to pull rocker covers off.
Who is Ray Edwards????
No Cents :up:
Thats his name on the box.Ray you pullin a fast one on us.
nope...it's my friend Randy's.
He is just using my engine stand that is bolted to the bottom of a plywood crate I made that I use to ship cases and flywheels in.
I barn build my engines. :hyst:
Ray
Quote from: digga25 on October 02, 2014, 05:31:14 PM
Thats his name on the box.Ray you pullin a fast one on us.
:potstir:
ok...one more shot of some motor porn...with no name.
Ray
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and...it's not mine...I can honestly say that!
You guys have the -2 's in it yet ?
Quote from: No Cents on October 02, 2014, 05:36:03 PM
nope...it's my friend Randy's.
He is just using my engine stand that is bolted to the bottom of a plywood crate I made that I use to ship cases and flywheels in.
I barn build my engines. :hyst:
Ray
yeah, that stand gets around... :smile:
Great motor porn. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to following this thread right through to the dyno sheets.
natural cases and heads and black non highlighted barrels.......that would be engine porn
Those are some big ports.....cant wait to see a set
Hmmmmm sexy!!
beautiful :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
VERY Nice!! Anyone have any idea on why S & S put ,635 cams in there beast. You compression people will want at the least 1 more full point on top of the 10.47:1 it has Now. Once you get the monster tuned TRY those cams. Hell what can it take to replace the set,Up the compression, and install -2s. ITS A NEW HEART TO PLAY WITH!!!!!
:pop:
this 1st batch of the three 144 crate engines only came in two color options John.
Granite for the CVO crowd...and Black highlighted...for the stealth stock look :dgust:
As far as the 635HO cams go...S&S tested this engine with the 640's and 675's...and liked what they seen with the 635HO's. Remember...this crate engine uses the S&S gear drive oil pump system...so cam choice will be limited unless you change the cam plate and oil pump.
I know a lot of people potty mouthed the 635's on the forum here...but S&S says they make the best power through out the entire rpm range.
I think this engine will go north of 170 hp straight out of the box.
Ray
I would be interested in the 640 option with a little squeeze in it... but I may not be able to ride it :doh:
I see breathers out of both heads? interesting. My B2's breathe out of rear head only. Front cyliner goes back into intake port.
What are those two fittings (near breather holes; black rubber caps)?
Quote from: les on October 03, 2014, 08:49:38 AM
What are those two fittings (near breather holes; black rubber caps)?
Make it easier to vent to the atmosphere? Big motor needs xtra breathing?
Quote from: les on October 03, 2014, 08:49:38 AM
What are those two fittings (near breather holes; black rubber caps)?
I believe they hook up to the 70mm T/Hog.
Ray
You can hook them up to the TB or you can vent to atmosphere.
the new 70mm T/Hog for the B3 heads is set up to accept a vent tube from each head separately. I believe the original 70mm T/Hog only accepted a single vent tube from the rear head on the B2's. Now they are venting each B3 head separately thru the throat of the T/Hog before the butterfly.
I told Randy if I was him...I'd vent the heads to a catch can or to the ground and cap the two vent holes going into the top of the t/body.
Well see what he decides.
Ray
Ray, you should grab a bag of tools and get over there. Two doctors operating are better than one. :wink:
my helping him will probably be limited to lifting the 103 out of the frame...and helping him sit the 144"er in.
Randy likes to wrench alone...plus I wouldn't want to scratch that fine piece of jewelry he has.
Ray
Ray, Randy probably has that mad scientist wrenchin thing like I've got.... :teeth:
I provided the strong back and the 103 is out and the 144"er is in.
No shoehorn required. :wink:
Ray
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Sweeeet !!!
In a shark too! Mmmmmmm :potstir:
Sorry if this has been asked,but will this motor fit in stock chassis and is it offered for the 06 and down FLH?
With the utmost respect and admiration... you guys suck.
:hyst:
Stock tranny? :pop:
BETTER :idunno: CLUTCH?!!??
:pop:
BETTER :hyst: TRANNY!!???
:chop: "FASTER BEER RUNS"
I'm impressed There's a lot of room between the frame and rocker box. Fits nicely. I want one. Olny one thing stopping me....MONEY! :emoGroan:
Randy , how's the build coming along ? Love the shark nose , my favorite HD !
Randy...I hate you.
I am getting closer down to oil line installation and waiting for the induction system and pipe.. :chop:
:chop: :up: :chop:
Sweeet ! :chop:
My fav comment so far on this thread = "should be north of 170 hp" 😈 Man am I jealous.
Quote from: No Cents on October 03, 2014, 04:57:16 PM
the new 70mm T/Hog for the B3 heads is set up to accept a vent tube from each head separately. I believe the original 70mm T/Hog only accepted a single vent tube from the rear head on the B2's. Now they are venting each B3 head separately thru the throat of the T/Hog before the butterfly.
I told Randy if I was him...I'd vent the heads to a catch can or to the ground and cap the two vent holes going into the top of the t/body.
Well see what he decides.
Ray
Per S&S the engine NEEDS those lines from head attached to the throttle body to provide vacuum & warranty purpose.
Might still be able to mount a small air/fluid separator in close proximity and run the lines as S&S instructs. Rick
Might still be able to mount a small air/fluid separator in close proximity and run the lines as S&S instructs.
Drain regularly or it will have no effect. Rick
2 1/8" exhaust port out of those B3 heads.
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I believe so Jim.
Look at the very 1st post in this thread and take a look at the picture I posted of the intake port.
Ray
Quote from: No Cents on October 20, 2014, 06:02:17 PM
I believe so Jim.
Look at the very 1st post in this thread and take a look at the picture I posted of the intake port.
Ray
:up:
O yeah I see it now
that's it ....tear it down. needs new guides, seals, springs, welded crank, dual Timken's. :hyst:
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Quote from: No Cents on October 20, 2014, 06:02:17 PM
I believe so Jim.
Look at the very 1st post in this thread and take a look at the picture I posted of the intake port.
Ray
:up:
O yeah I see it now
that's it ....tear it down. needs new guides, seals, springs, welded crank, dual Timken's. :hyst:
It has dual Timkens... :wink:
Quote from: strokerjlk on October 20, 2014, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: No Cents on October 20, 2014, 06:02:17 PM
I believe so Jim.
Look at the very 1st post in this thread and take a look at the picture I posted of the intake port.
Ray
:up:
O yeah I see it now
that's it ....tear it down. needs new guides, seals, springs, welded crank, dual Timken's. :hyst:
Don't forget the corrected geometry.
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Quote from: strokerjlk on October 20, 2014, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: No Cents on October 20, 2014, 06:02:17 PM
I believe so Jim.
Look at the very 1st post in this thread and take a look at the picture I posted of the intake port.
Ray
:up:
O yeah I see it now
that's it ....tear it down. needs new guides, seals, springs, welded crank, dual Timken's. :hyst:
It has dual Timkens... :wink:
A single tapered Timken wouldn't work so good now would it?
Gonna get this done in time for the first snow?
Mike
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Quote from: Ohio HD on October 20, 2014, 06:19:39 PM
Quote from: strokerjlk on October 20, 2014, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: No Cents on October 20, 2014, 06:02:17 PM
I believe so Jim.
Look at the very 1st post in this thread and take a look at the picture I posted of the intake port.
Ray
:up:
O yeah I see it now
that's it ....tear it down. needs new guides, seals, springs, welded crank, dual Timken's. :hyst:
It has dual Timkens... :wink:
A single tapered Timken wouldn't work so good now would it?
Not so well :smiled:
I talked to Randy on the phone today...his hold up is getting an exhaust system made to fit this 144 and the 70mm t/body back from S&S.
He said he got good news this morning and he should have both next week.
So it looks like the big block will rumble before the snow flies.
Ray
Quote from: No Cents on October 21, 2014, 03:36:38 PM
I talked to Randy on the phone today...his hold up is getting an exhaust system made to fit this 144 and the 70mm t/body back from S&S.
He said he got good news this morning and he should have both next week.
So it looks like the big block will rumble before the snow flies.
Ray
Why did the 70mm have to go back to S&S?
It was sent back to S&S for exchange for the complete new induction system for the 144 :scoot:
Quote from: groundhog144 on October 21, 2014, 04:13:51 PM
It was sent back to S&S for exchange for the complete new induction system for the 144 :scoot:
Sounds good, would you post pics of what is included in the complete kit when you get it?
What exhaust?
a Bassani...I believe...it's specifically made for the 144 engine.
Ray
What? Not an 8-up stainless exhaust.
:hyst:
that was option #3...if the first two exhaust options didn't pan out Joe.
I looked into my crystal ball last night...and seen an 8-up stainless exhaust being made for it next year :fish:
I know Randy all too well...and that long ass Bassani 2n1 pipe ending up back by the end of his hard bag...isn't going to cut it for him for long. :potstir:
He is another true gear head like me. :hyst:
Ray
What was the other one?
Guppy
Ray, was Randy able to get ahold of the maker of the Gupy?
yes...he has been in contact with Brian.
Quote from: No Cents on October 21, 2014, 05:54:57 PM
a Bassani...I believe...it's specifically made for the 144 engine.
Ray
I talked to the guy at S&S who built Randy's engine and he was telling me that they are also working with D&D designing a pipe for the 143's. He quickly corrected me that it's a 143 when I asked about the 144.
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Quote from: No Cents on October 21, 2014, 05:54:57 PM
a Bassani...I believe...it's specifically made for the 144 engine.
Ray
I talked to the guy at S&S who built Randy's engine and he was telling me that they are also working with D&D designing a pipe for the 143's. He quickly corrected me that it's a 143 when I asked about the 144.
That guy should probably tell the rest of the company, looks like S&S thinks it's a 144.
http://www.sscycle.com/files/1214/1209/0144/510-0293_T144_Engine_20140929.pdf (http://www.sscycle.com/files/1214/1209/0144/510-0293_T144_Engine_20140929.pdf)
We used the mega zilla years ago . R&R has it made for there billet head , and the larger B2 style ex port that is also raised. I have one here that he is welcome to try and see if it fits. It does not have heat shields but will work for what you are doing. Have him call me I can ship it right out.
The 131 we ran it on . Bob at RC tuned that one with the 640 cam went 160/144
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Quote from: 06roadglide on October 22, 2014, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: No Cents on October 21, 2014, 05:54:57 PM
a Bassani...I believe...it's specifically made for the 144 engine.
Ray
I talked to the guy at S&S who built Randy's engine and he was telling me that they are also working with D&D designing a pipe for the 143's. He quickly corrected me that it's a 143 when I asked about the 144.
That guy should probably tell the rest of the company, looks like S&S thinks it's a 144.
http://www.sscycle.com/files/1214/1209/0144/510-0293_T144_Engine_20140929.pdf (http://www.sscycle.com/files/1214/1209/0144/510-0293_T144_Engine_20140929.pdf)
Yeah I know! :scratch: That rep pounced on it quick when I said 144. :hyst:
Standard bore is 4.425 (142.3) Over size bore is 4.445 (143.5)
144 sounds better.
:koolaid:
I was corrected by an owner of one of theses the other day that its a 143. He seemed to be really happy with his.
I think we're all anxious Ray. That thing is surely gonna be a beast and as the builder said "not for the faint of heart, it'll hurt ya"
I'm just confused as to what to actually call it. Lol. S&S lists it as a 144 but then the rep and builder of it called it a 143 in Daytona and corrected me when I asked if they had a 144 with them.
I'm just confused as to what to actually call it. Lol. S&S lists it as a 144 but then the rep and builder of it called it a 143 in Daytona and corrected me when I asked if they had a 144 with them.
I'd call it bad ass if I had it !!
Quote from: 2006FXDCI on October 24, 2014, 06:34:48 AM
I'm just confused as to what to actually call it. Lol. S&S lists it as a 144 but then the rep and builder of it called it a 143 in Daytona and corrected me when I asked if they had a 144 with them.
I'd call it bad ass if I had it !!
True dat!!! Going to a 144 from a 117 would be like going to a 124 from a 95. :bike: CRAP!! my little ol 117 isn't cutting it now :sick:
Quote from: 2006FXDCI on October 24, 2014, 06:34:48 AM
I'm just confused as to what to actually call it. Lol. S&S lists it as a 144 but then the rep and builder of it called it a 143 in Daytona and corrected me when I asked if they had a 144 with them.
I'd call it bad ass if I had it !!
Amen, and pass the biscuits :teeth:
now you went and did it Durwood...it's buscuits and gravy with some fried eggs for supper for me tonight now.
you made me hungry :hyst:
Ray
Quote from: No Cents on October 24, 2014, 04:06:50 AM
There sure is a lot of experts on this new 144...and I don't know of any of them out there to be critiqued.
I for one am anxious to see how it does.
I think it will surprise a lot of us.
Ray
Relax, it doesn't take an expert to figure what is really the cubic inch of the thing. Nobody is going to call it a 142.3. Just as nobody calls a 131 a 131.54 or a 127 a 127.68. People are wondering why some are calling them 143's and some say 144. I think they were just trying to separate it from the 145.
Yum, what times dinner Ray...
Quote from: groundhog144 on October 24, 2014, 11:00:52 AM
Yum, what times dinner Ray...
Right after the pipe and t/b are installed . :fish:
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Yum, what times dinner Ray...
Right after I go over to Kieth's and wire the underground service up to his new shop he built.
Jason...if I get any more relaxed...I'd have to be checked for a pulse. :wink:
Ray
Any new updates?
I talked to Randy this morning.
Everything needed to get it running is already shipped.
The big block should be coming to life next week sometime. :smilep:
Ray
:bike:
I foresee a false alarm on the local news.
"I'm sorry to interrupt your program but we have recorded a trimmer on the Richter scale and advise that you seek immediate shelter"
Quote from: 06roadglide on November 06, 2014, 12:50:30 PM
I foresee a false alarm on the local news.
"I'm sorry to interrupt your program but we have recorded a trimmer on the Richter scale and advise that you seek immediate shelter"
:hyst:
Quote from: No Cents on October 04, 2014, 10:57:31 AM
I provided the strong back and the 103 is out and the 144"er is in.
No shoehorn required. :wink:
Ray
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Oh My! In a Road Glide to Boot!!!???? Talk about Porn!
Of course there must be sounds clips provided.
ok
potato...potato...potato :hyst:
How did I do Mark? :wink:
On a serious note...I will see what we can do for you when Randy lights the thing up.
Ray
Somehow I don't think that's exactly it Ray. :hyst:
I know Mark...it's probably going to be
POTATO...POTATO...POTATO
emphasis on potato :wink:
Ray
:up: :up:
tic toc, tic toc...I bet this is going to be a long sleepless night for you knowing the missing pieces might be there tomorrow when you get home from work. :bike:
It just about heat cycle time for the big block :koolaid1:
Ray
Did the parts show up? We need Updates
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Did the parts show up? We need Updates
:pop: :pop:, Jim, you got the bunkhouse camper ready for me?
Randy got the motor mount and the 70mm T/Hog today.
Ray
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Is that a cue ball stock in that monster?
Does this motor have both easy starts and ACRs?
It's a ping pong ball.
Just EZ start cams...no ACR's.
Ray
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That sure looks nice..... :wink:
Delightful
Man that's a tight squeeze in the frame. So jealous! 😈
S&S top motor mount and factory stabilizer.
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Thank you Ray for the help tonight and painting the motor mount , we are getting closer,but it looks like the pipe will be next week sometime they were supposed to send me the tracking number but i havent received it yet,the injectors will be here by friday and then i will be installing the fuel tank :koolaid:
Nice engine Randy, just a little tip for you. I installed an S&S124" in the spring.
Remove the crankcase thru bolt between the cylinders,apply some black rtv sealant on the backside of both washers and re-torque to 18" lbs.
Mine was misting oil out between the lifter blocks,a little annoying to have oil pumping out and blowing backwards as you ride.Other than that the S&S big blocks are a pile of fun.I hope this will save a step later. Bob
Not that I am overly envious... but
Your 70mm Hog and backing plate actually works and it bolts to the head correctly, not to mention your filter isnt tapered like mine. On my B2's I had to mod a stock bracket to hold the Hog correctly and it looks like junk compared to yours.
have a part number for backing plate so I can question tech about it?
Quote from: No Cents on November 07, 2014, 03:28:10 AM
I know Mark...it's probably going to be
POTATO...POTATO...POTATO
emphasis on potato :wink:
Ray
I think more like the opening drum solo for "Hot for Teacher" by Van Halen!
:hyst: :teeth:
How big can you go for a "B" motor :scratch:
Randy sent me this a few minutes ago.
injectors in...check :up:
tank on...check :up:
the motor mount and stabilizer should have the paint on them good and dry by tomorrow...I'll bring them over after work.
Looks like all's you need now is the pipe...and the monster finally comes to life :potstir:
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Looks great!
I can test ride it for you to make sure everything checks out ok
That's cool if i can test ride your avatar :koolaid:
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Oops.. :nix:
Ray , That is some funny "Potty mouth" right there ! You and Randy reminded me of the Smother brothers for a minute ! Bike looks awesome Randy , cant wait to see what it does on Jim's drum .
no...we are more like Cheech & Chong. :hyst:
Ray
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Oops.. :nix:
Probably better get a case of beer sent overnight to Sham Rock :wink:
"Up in smoke
Thats where my money goes
In my bikes
and sometimes to my wife
When troubled times
Begin to bother me
I take a toke
and all my cares
Go up in smoke"
Ray, how bout a sound bite with your pipe on it? Just thinkin' out loud :fish:
It won't fit on it Daren.
Those B3 exhaust ports are...HUGE :dgust:
Ray
Quote from: No Cents on November 14, 2014, 06:46:00 AM
It won't fit on it Daren.
Those B3 exhaust ports are...HUGE :dgust:
Ray
Ahhhh, oh well, just a thought :teeth:
Ray I still have the 2 inch mega zilla pipe here. Would have been happy to send it for test fire. hell even run it . Made 168 hp on a 131 so I am sure its big enough
Steve...Randy's pipe has shipped. The hold was for the clips used for the flanges on this bigger diameter pipe. They sent him tracking numbers for it...and come to find out it didn't ship because Bassani was waiting on their supplier for the clips. Randy called and found this out...and told them to go ahead and send it because he already has the clips needed for the exhaust from S&S.
That set him back a week on that fiasco. :doh:
He could of already had it fired up if it wasn't for that.
I expect the pipe to be here any day now.
Ray
I think steve was offering it to try on yours.
Interesting looking Air cleaner, what make is it? I'm assuming this motor is going to be FI I haven't seen any references to Carbs.
Mike
I'd like info on the air cleaner assy. I'm looking for a new one now!
Thanks, John
Looks like the unit made by S&S
http://www.sscycle.com/product/Products-20-3E-202007-Up-20Twin-20Cam-2096-E2-84-A2-20103-E2-84-A2-20110-E2-84-A2-20-3E-20Induction-20-3E-20Air-20Cleaners-20-26amp-3B-20Kits/Muscle-Cover-Stealth-Air-Cleaner-for-2008-Up-Touring-2009-upTri-Glide-2011-up-Softail-CVO-Harley-Twin-Cam-96-103-110-p25442.html (http://www.sscycle.com/product/Products-20-3E-202007-Up-20Twin-20Cam-2096-E2-84-A2-20103-E2-84-A2-20110-E2-84-A2-20-3E-20Induction-20-3E-20Air-20Cleaners-20-26amp-3B-20Kits/Muscle-Cover-Stealth-Air-Cleaner-for-2008-Up-Touring-2009-upTri-Glide-2011-up-Softail-CVO-Harley-Twin-Cam-96-103-110-p25442.html)
That sure looks like it, thanks !
:smilep:
progress being made!
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I can feel some heat cycles happening very soon
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Oh yeah!!! Get some video of the first firing. I think we're all just as excited to see/feel/hear this one!
exciting times for Randy right now.
I bet he slept like a baby last night :potstir:
Ray
Awesome :chop:
If I feel the ground shaking over here I'll know he fired'er up :up:
lolllll ow can he sleep
that's why I stirred the pot at the end... I bet he didn't sleep a wink last night. :hyst:
Ray
Man it looks intimidating just sitting there. :up:
I've got two videos to post for Randy...but I'm at the hospital right now meeting another grand child that was just gave birth to.
Grand baby is fine...but my daughter had complications. They have her stable and had to give her four pints of blood so far.
Needless to say...wifeeepooh and I are pacing back and forth right now.
I'll get the videos posted as soon as I can.
Ray
Hope all goes well with your daughter Ray.
Videos can wait Ray.
Prayers that your girl recovers well.
And congratulations for the new family member.
:agree:
Quote from: 06roadglide on November 15, 2014, 03:23:20 PM
Videos can wait Ray.
Prayers that your girl recovers well.
And congratulations for the new family member.
Family first Ray.
Wishing your family the best Ray.
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:agree:Quote from: 06roadglide on November 15, 2014, 03:23:20 PM
Videos can wait Ray.
Prayers that your girl recovers well.
And congratulations for the new family member.
Family first Ray.
Prayers sent.
Ray hope all is well.
Best of luck for your daughter Ray. That's scary.
Zach
Ray
Congratulations on the new addition.
Prayers are on the way.
Family is much more important than any bike. The story can wait. Just call it entermission.
thank you for the kind words men...we appreciate it.
The baby is fine...and my daughter is out of ICU and had one surgery and is in a room now. She was weak...but is doing much better now that they gave her the 4 units of blood. She is starting to get here color back...she was as white as the sheets of the bed when we 1st seen her.
The doctor actually said a prayer over top her during the child birth because he thought they lost her.
God does work in mysterious ways sometimes. She will have to stay in the hospital for a few more days now to be monitored.
As promised...Randy's 143/144 initial heat cycle...project Canned Heat.
http://youtu.be/5Lfau2Ue4pA (http://youtu.be/5Lfau2Ue4pA)
Ray
heat cycle #2
http://youtu.be/Wgd-j9HgGuo (http://youtu.be/Wgd-j9HgGuo)
Ray
Happy that she's OK Ray! :up:
Glad to hear everyones OK Ray !
Sounds good Randy. :up:
The Bassani exhaust sounds a lot like a Zilla, I like it. :chop:
Ohhh just watched the video's , that bitch sounds Baaaaad Asssss !
Sounds like a top fuel dragster at a cackle fest. :up: :beer:
:agree:
kd...it has a cackle fest going on. I love that deep hollow sound the Bassani pipe makes.
I was hoping he got all the heat cycles done yesterday and he could get it out today for his 50 mile ride so he could do his 1st oil change later on today...but I don't know if that's going to happen because we got our 1st dusting of snow overnight. The roads are still warm enough that it didn't stick to them...so you never know about Randy.
I'm sure he is itching to get it out on the road and feel the canned heat. :smilep:
Ray
:teeth: :up: stay tuned for broken chit.
Sweeeet!
....and very glad to read the grandchild and daughter are doing well.
Mark
I may have missed it somewhere but what tuning are you using and did S&S provide a map to start with?
If not, I wouldn't do anymore than the heat cycles and just let Jim break it in and change the oil. Randy has shown some extreme patients with this engine and that's allot of money to take a chance on.
yes...S&S provided the map for it. S&S suggested the Power Vision...so that's what Randy got and used.
They also recommend their break in procedure to be done to it...which would allow him to put some miles on the bike before going to Jim's. S&S sent the map from their tuned test mule which has the same exact set up. I know each bike has it's own tuning needs...but they said this map should be very close and will let him ride it without issues until he can get it professionally tuned. Randy knows the 1st 50 miles is critical for ring seating...and I know he won't baby it.
I'm sure Randy will get it to Jim's as soon as he can.
Ray
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Hell...I'm ready to load them up now and take off for Jim's...but I have to be patient.
Congratulation on the new grandbaby,I have a few of them running around the house as we speak,And thanks for the video clips..... :wink:
Great to Hear things are working out ok.....as for the Bike... I LIKE IT ! Nice pipe :up:
Best wishes from Ontario for your daughters speedy recovery! Man that's scary stuff!
Randy's 143/144 sounds awesome. I have a buddy here that's simply frothing to do the same on his '11 Electra Glide. Its all he's talked about for a month! I may have to tie him up until he gets back some control! hehe. Buffalo
Randy playing around :bike:
uncapped version
http://youtu.be/3q-Lwcs43Qc (http://youtu.be/3q-Lwcs43Qc)
Ray
Quote from: 06roadglide on November 15, 2014, 03:23:20 PM
Prayers that your girl recovers well.
And congratulations for the new family member.
:rose: :up:
Maybe some more fuel on the front cyl. Sounds pretty damn sweet.
Very nice! Glad your daughter is doing better.
Congratulations Grandpa.
Mike
Man that thing sounds great. I love it. C'mon lotto, I need this.
Zach
sounds (and looks) beautiful - nice job :up: :up:
GLAD TO SEE THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES THAT!
Quote from: No Cents on November 16, 2014, 04:31:39 AM
yes...S&S provided the map for it. S&S suggested the Power Vision...so that's what Randy got and used.
They also recommend their break in procedure to be done to it...which would allow him to put some miles on the bike before going to Jim's. S&S sent the map from their tuned test mule which has the same exact set up. I know each bike has it's own tuning needs...but they said this map should be very close and will let him ride it without issues until he can get it professionally tuned. Randy knows the 1st 50 miles is critical for ring seating...and I know he won't baby it.
I'm sure Randy will get it to Jim's as soon as he can.
Ray
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Hell...I'm ready to load them up now and take off for Jim's...but I have to be patient.
Speaking of Jim where did he disappear to?
Has not been a peak from him in a week.
in the mountains of W. Virginia I do believe.
Ray
Hope he doesn't have a pretty mouth. ;)
he was headed home yesterday. I hope he beat the snow.
We got 5" here today :banghead:
Ray
Quote from: joe_lyons on November 17, 2014, 04:50:40 PM
Hope he doesn't have a pretty mouth. ;)
I was thinking the same thing. :bike:
Man that is one BA horse you have their!! :scoot:
I was going to brag on my 120" I'm putting in my old bagger but it looks like a moped beside that monster. Nice work thanks for sharing
here is the exhaust set up that monster needs :potstir:
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Ray
Ray, you are the King at posting motor porn. Nice.
:agree:
Have you guys put it on the drum yet? And if so what kind of #s did you see?
No drum roll yet its probably going to be a couple more weeks before we make the trip to jims...
:banghead:A couple weeks how the hell can you stand this hell it's hurting me just watch and waiting we need sheets
Quote from: groundhog144 on November 20, 2014, 07:14:47 PM
No drum roll yet its probably going to be a couple more weeks before we make the trip to jims...
:pop:
I agree I'm dying to know what that beast puts out :fish:
Where you at Randy? :potstir:
I was walking out of the grocery store this afternoon (which is right along the exit ramp of I-74) and I heard this thumpin Harley downshifting getting off on the exit ramp. Of course you know me...I had to look. Low and behold it was Randy all bundled up riding his 143/144 on it's maiden voyage.
The damn thing sounded badass and you could tell even from the distance it was no stock motorcycle. :up:
Come on Randy...tell us what it felt like. :fish:
Ray
You are correct ray the sun finally came out and dried up the roads just enough I put 50 miles on her and ladies and gentlemen let me just say I have had several 124s and a couple 120R so far the valvetrain is really quiet and let me just say I went pretty easy on her shifting at three and 4000 RPM is very difficult to do this girl does want to hunt If I get the same weather tomorrow I doubt it if I'll be able to restrain myself
Quote from: groundhog144 on November 22, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
You are correct ray the sun finally came out and dried up the roads just enough I put 50 miles on her and ladies and gentlemen let me just say I have had several 124s and a couple 120R so far the valvetrain is really quiet and let me just say I went pretty easy on her shifting at three and 4000 RPM is very difficult to do this girl does want to hunt If I get the same weather tomorrow I doubt it if I'll be able to restrain myself
Do It!! :teeth:
hell yes...let er' chew next time!
then give us a full report :potstir:
Ray
I got all the salt and road grime off of Canned Heat,i say lets get them loaded up Friday night and make the drop off Saturday :koolaid:
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I'll try to get ahold of Jim and see if he can fit us in.
Ray
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Bout time where has Jim been I have not seen him around here lately
Quote from: Sham Rock on November 23, 2014, 05:47:06 PM
Bout time where has Jim been I have not seen him around here lately
good question :nix:
I called him yesterday and left a message...but I never heard back from him.
I hope everything is alright.
Ray
He is just fine. Prolly getting settled back in the homestead after being away for a while. You all will hear from him soon I'm sure.
Quote from: No Cents on November 23, 2014, 04:24:36 PM
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I'll try to get ahold of Jim and see if he can fit us in.
Ray
Jim going to be busy I am dropping two off Friday.
we just might have to wait a little longer then if your dropping two off this Friday.
Ray
Jim put his sporty back together this weekend.
I was at his shop Saturday morning and he was getting ready to do some motor work so i cut a trail back to hills of Ky
Jim posted a little video and review of his initial shake down ride on Randy's 143/144 Canned Heat on Facebook. I think he likes it...even before it's tuned.
Ray
Too bad it's on facebook. I tried to find it and I guess that me and probably others that aren't facebookers can't get to see it. :cry:
I just looked on jims page and didn't see it
Quote from: No Cents on November 30, 2014, 10:56:38 AM
Jim posted a little video and review of his initial shake down ride on Randy's 143/144 Canned Heat on Facebook. I think he likes it...even before it's tuned.
Ray
Ray how about a link to the page?
James Stroker Kennedy said thanks Randy Edwards for the opportunity to let er rip. I appreciate your confidence. I have several requests for a ride report. so here goes . the roads were wet and it felt every bit as responsive at low rpms as any other 140-160 hp street bike . any concerns about the B3 heads and 70 mm throttle body being lazy at low rpm's ,are put to rest. with the HO 635 cam this engine is responsive everywhere. Lots of requests for a dyno sheet already. I did not spool it up on the dyno. I did a 8 mile pre tuning ride. I have to admit ,the map provided by S&S ( dynojet power vision) from their test bike is very very safe. the bike runs pretty darn well. keep in mind everything is the same as their combination was, right down to the injectors. if you follow the recipe from S&S ,you will have a good base map to start with. the bike just pulls effortlessly anywhere. 1800 rpm in 6 th gear is possible. a quick run through the gears shifting at 4000 rpms will put you in 6 th gear at 110 mph, as fast as you can crack the throttle back and forth. its quiet and very docile. one heck of a street sport bike killer. things that need addressed.... warmup,hot startup,idle timing. it has a little clack to the primary at idle . moving timing around at idle might fix that. one other observation that might take some getting used to for some guys. there is virtually no engine braking with this combination you have to go down a extra gear when letting off the throttle before you actual feel any engine braking effect. . hope that answers most of the questions .
The above post from Randy was the review Jim gave on Facebook.
He also posted a little video.
Jim can be found on facebook at:
James Stroker Kennedy
I'm not computer savvy enough to know how to paste or share Jim's comments on facebook...sorry guys.
Ray
Quote from: No Cents on October 03, 2014, 05:26:22 AM
I think this engine will go north of 170 hp straight out of the box.
Ray
I think I made this prediction back when this thread was started.
It's now crunch time.
A little birdie told me I was wrong :smilep:
Let's see how close I got :potstir:
Ray
Hmmmmm .... did that little birdie send you a sound clip? :smiled:
The little birdie was wrong
I might have been just a tad light on my prediction. :wink:
I'll let Randy or Jim give the details.
Great job Jim and Randy! :up: :up: :up:
Ray
That 635 HO is sounding pretty good right now.
Did Jim do a CCP test on this yet?
the pretty ones .
No ccp test yet Eric.
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Thank you James Stroker Kennedy for all the hard work :bike:
WOW !!!
way to go guys!!! :up:
that's a keeper right there. :wink:
Ray
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sales @ S&S will be going up I predict next :hyst:
pretty hard to keep the tire from slipping on this beast
these show 1.20 hp per CI. thats where i though it should land.
awesome crate motor. the cam choice just makes it a beast everywhere.
no loss of bottom end like was speculated
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great job Jim! :up:
Ray
:up: :up: :up: Great work Jim!!
thanks Guys
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Ray
Looks good gentlemen :up: :up:
:up: Lookin Damn Good..
Jim,
That's pretty damn awesome alright. Did you do a run without the breather? I'm just noticing the distinct plateau at 5800 + and there's no AFR table. :up: :up: :up:
this is the final vs the start (http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr327/strokerjlk/dyno%20sheets/CANNEDHEAT.png) (http://s496.photobucket.com/user/strokerjlk/media/dyno%20sheets/CANNEDHEAT.png.html)
143ci vs a good stage 2 factory 103ci with 57 cams . just to put it into perspective.
air cleaner was removed for run # 40 KD
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Wow! Great tune Jim! Nice job Randy, Ray!
It looks like the S&S "canned" tune needed your touch. :up:
I'm definitely not nit picking but trying to learn something here. What do you think causes the curve to plateau after 5800? Fuel, Air, cams or pipe or a combination?
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I just saw the run 40 comment Jim. Thanks. It looks like it gave up a little more with some air.
Absolutely amazing. You definetly have a real talent, Jim!
That is just ridiculous! !!!!!! I want one......
Amazing. I'm thinking there's a bunch of guys re-writing their Christmas wish list about now...
Quote from: rageglide on December 02, 2014, 09:18:05 PM
Amazing. I'm thinking there's a bunch of guys re-writing their Christmas wish list about now...
Just what I was going to post. Looks like big fun, almost 1.2 per cube. -Rick
Quote from: RG2007 on December 02, 2014, 08:45:36 PM
That is just ridiculous! !!!!!! I want one......
:agree:
Nice work guys :up:
WOW HATS OFF TO ALL INVOLVED...... :up:
Very Impressive :up: :up:
That is great :up:
I am going to go pout now.
Quote from: 04 SE DEUCE on December 02, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: rageglide on December 02, 2014, 09:18:05 PM
Amazing. I'm thinking there's a bunch of guys re-writing their Christmas wish list about now...
Just what I was going to post. Looks like big fun, almost 1.2 per cube. -Rick
It is big fun .
And it's almost 1.21 hp per ci
173 ~143 = 1.209 .
That is insane! This raises the bar to the next level.
did you check the ccp's on it Jim?
Ray
Quote from: No Cents on December 03, 2014, 03:52:09 AM
did you check the ccp's on it Jim?
Ray
I asked that earlier but I was just search the specs and maybe these are EZ start cams.
Did Randy's paper work come with a parts list for the motor? I know the 120R comes with a parts catalog in the back of the instructions. The info would be useful to someone looking to buy the individual pieces to build a different size motor.
Very impressive :up:. So what's the first change going to be? I'd make some changes to the pipe to try to soften it a tad before 4k and have more after 4k and see if it would climb to 6500. 180hp? I might have missed it but what clutch is in this?
Will you Jim or Randy, post a youtube clip for those who don't Facebook please?
I'm dying to see and hear that motor running...
Thanks, Ziggy
Simply amazing Jim ! Great job to all involved !
The clutch is a primo Riviera with lock up as far as changes go I'm sure it's got plenty enough wick for me :koolaid:
Now to see how the chassis/drivetrain holds up to that power, should be a fun ride. An old guy I know I had a saying "like a tornado strapped to a washtub"
Quote from: groundhog144 on December 03, 2014, 05:24:03 AM
The clutch is a primo Riviera with lock up as far as changes go I'm sure it's got plenty enough wick for me :koolaid:
For now. :potstir:
I know you all too well :hyst:
Ray
Quote from: groundhog144 on December 03, 2014, 05:24:03 AM
The clutch is a primo Riviera with lock up as far as changes go I'm sure it's got plenty enough wick for me :koolaid:
interesting... that clutch with the TPP and the gold spring wouldn't hold 148ftlbs in my bike...
Awesome power everywhere! Has to be an incredible ride!
Very surprised at the difference between the S&S original map and the final tune. Maybe stoker should teach S&S how to actually build a map. hehe
Was the map set deliberately very rich?
Amazing results here!! Definitely not for the faint of heart or inexperienced rider.
Freightliner power on a HOG!! Fantastic results for a "crate" motor. I have to commend stroker for the tune and S&S for the motor.
Certainly makes my "little" 124 (126.2hp/133.9t) seem puny!! Buffalo
Quote from: Buffalo on December 03, 2014, 08:56:29 AM
Very surprised at the difference between the S&S original map and the final tune. Maybe stoker should teach S&S how to actually build a map. hehe
Was the map set deliberately very rich?
Amazing results here!! Definitely not for the faint of heart or inexperienced rider.
Freightliner power on a HOG!! Fantastic results for a "crate" motor. I have to commend stroker for the tune and S&S for the motor.
Certainly makes my "little" 124 (126.2hp/133.9t) seem puny!! Buffalo
Buffalo
I think this just shows the importance of a tune vs a map from a identical build .
The map was a little rich at idle and cruise . It was lean at WOT .
The S&S bike went 168 hp. This one hit 177 hp uncorrected . It just needed a little more fuel as it made just a tick more hp.
IMO S&S provided a very safe map . I wouldn't have been scared to put 500 miles on it with their map .
Thanks for the kind words guys .
Well deserved stroker.. :beer: :beer:
Quote from: groundhog144 on December 03, 2014, 09:31:04 AM
Well deserved stroker.. :beer: :beer:
:agree:
you da man Jim! :beer: :beer: :beer:
Ray
Talk about an arm stretcher! I'm predicting back tires that don't last very long in your future. 😈
Great Job Stroker And welcome Back
That's just amazing. I love it. To think this could be easily done in a weekend just makes it that much better. I'm going to go kick my bike off the lift now.
Zach
Stroker Thanks for the personal reply and precise answers. I won't be buying this beast, but have a close friend who has been chewing on this 144 since its announcement. We discussed the numbers for over an hour within 15 minutes of reading the results.
Will you be able to offer a new map that brings the engine even closer to a great tune?
Hows the exhaust system for volume? Us older fellows don't care for really loud any more.
Would it be a problem to hear the radio at cruising speeds (60-75 mph).
I wanted to congratulate Randy and thank No Cents for putting the info forward, wonderful to see the 8up boys enjoying the fruits. Buffalo
Sweeeeet!!! How much does one of these cost?
SO??!!!! The 635HO run great for this build but for the S & S 106 package??? "it is the 30 tooth" " gear drive" BS that makes it UNRULY below 3K. WHAT A BUNCH OF BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wtf:
Quote from: Templer on December 03, 2014, 07:05:05 PM
SO??!!!! The 635HO run great for this build but for the S & S 106 package??? "it is the 30 tooth" " gear drive" BS that makes it UNRULY below 3K. WHAT A BUNCH OF BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wtf:
its the solid sprocket maybe even the tune that effect the under 3k alot btw
I don't know if I missed something here but was it just the tune that gave it 45 more hp.
Quote from: Buffalo on December 03, 2014, 05:14:55 PM
Stroker Thanks for the personal reply and precise answers. I won't be buying this beast, but have a close friend who has been chewing on this 144 since its announcement. We discussed the numbers for over an hour within 15 minutes of reading the results.
Will you be able to offer a new map that brings the engine even closer to a great tune?
Hows the exhaust system for volume? Us older fellows don't care for really loud any more.
Would it be a problem to hear the radio at cruising speeds (60-75 mph).
I wanted to congratulate Randy and thank No Cents for putting the info forward, wonderful to see the 8up boys enjoying the fruits. Buffalo
I decided to use the base map S&S sent randy. This way there won't be any questions if there would happen to be a warranty issue . If S&S wants a copy of the map randy or myself could provide it .
I won't be providing any maps for similar builds .
Several reasons , but the biggest reason is ... My map may not be as good as S&S 's map on the next guys 143 . I know it's hard for people to wrap their head around all this tuning stuff . The fact is ,with injectors this big , all it takes is a little diff fuel pressure from one bike to the next and the fuel curve will be off.
I in no way intended to convey that the map from S&S was no good .
Like I said this current map from Randy's 143 could be as far off @wot on the next 143.
S&S map was very good IMO
Quote from: rob71458 on December 03, 2014, 06:13:25 PM
Sweeeeet!!! How much does one of these cost?
10.47 cr
.635 cams
2.300" intake valves
1.800" exhaust valves
1.725 rockers
B-3 Heads
4 .625 stroke
4 .425" bore
7.800" rods
In black or granite
70mm t/body
Bassani pipe only available at this point.
162 hp/151 ft/lbs on the test bike.
2008 + FL touring S&S will have the pipe for sale as well one part number for the complete induction set up
More specs to come ( will have CC of the heads to add, etc). Retail on the engine is 9350.00,.. 6 month warranty. It was released today. Any takers, great early Christmas gift. From GMR.
The exhaust volume as far a noise level ,is unbelievably quiet .
On a 0-10 scale . 10 being the loudest . I say it's a 4-5 . I don't see a problem hearing the tunes .
Volume ....as far as size. It's a monster pipe . It makes my wegner look like a toy.
Randy said its heavy . I believe him . It's awfully big .
I took a test ride last night . Stupid stupid stupid idea . OMG .i want one sooo bad now .
Bear in mind the roads are cold and the tire had 45 psi in it . But it is freakish on the wick .
I described it to Durwood as .. It's like a old 300 hp small block in a camaro or nova grabbing gears and playing on wet roads . It is a hand full .
Anyone looking for a 2010 103A? 54's at 10.5. Nice motor. :)
Quote from: laserp on December 04, 2014, 10:46:49 AM
Anyone looking for a 2010 103A? 54's at 10.5. Nice motor. :)
:hyst:
I would imagine S&S's phone has not stopped ringing after Jim posted Randy's dyno sheet.
I bet they won't be able to keep up with the demand for orders.
It's a very impressive crate motor. :wink:
Ray
It wasn't just the tune but it was the Master Tuner at Paradise Performance James Stroker Kennedy
Quote from: laserp on December 04, 2014, 10:46:49 AM
Anyone looking for a 2010 103A? 54's at 10.5. Nice motor. :)
how much for 103A, bout $9400 :hug:
Quote from: strokerjlk on December 04, 2014, 10:34:39 AM
I took a test ride last night . Stupid stupid stupid idea . OMG .i want one sooo bad now .
So have you calculated how many hours of overtime you're gonna have to put in to get one?
Quote from: rob71458 on December 03, 2014, 06:13:25 PM
Sweeeeet!!! How much does one of these cost?
Rob...if you couldn't get the engine at dealer cost and had to pay full price for it...along with the needed induction system, motor mount, exhaust system, and by the time you have it tuned. Oh...I almost forgot that you will also need a good clutch to hold it.
I'd say your looking roughly in the high 12K to mid 13K price range...that is if you did all the wrenching yourself.
Ray
Looks to be you guys did one hell of a job, thanks for taking the time to post and let us in on it. :up: :up:
I wish you many safe and happy miles.
BTW I see that SnS is unveiling it's new 155" for 2015.
Bwahahahahaha!
Jus kiddin'
Mike
Randy or Ray, can one of you post a picture of the new pipe???
Thanks.
-Tutt
Quote from: CowboyTutt on December 04, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
Randy or Ray, can one of you post a picture of the new pipe???
Thanks.
-Tutt
Reply #142
Thank you Joe! :up: Looks like a nice pipe. Not sure the Wegner qualifies as a "toy" though. Casey Wegner can start his pipe at any width you want and probably do something more custom. I have found him to be very helpful on the phone. -Tutt
Andy...it's a very nice quality built pipe.
It bolted right up with no fitment issues at all Randy said.
It reminds me a lot of the Zilla head pipe that someone put on steroids. The collector and muffler had flawless chrome and were massive too.
It looked like it made a nice torque curve on the dyno...and it wasn't too shy in the horsepower department either.
I'm pretty impressed with it. Bassani did a nice job making this pipe for the 143 crate motor.
Ray
The whole thing is a really nice package. It does make a man think a little..... :chop:
Quote from: CowboyTutt on December 04, 2014, 05:22:39 PM
Thank you Joe! :up: Looks like a nice pipe. Not sure the Wegner qualifies as a "toy" though. Casey Wegner can start his pipe at any width you want and probably do something more custom. I have found him to be very helpful on the phone. -Tutt
don't make more out of it than was said.
I respect Casey as well. just spoke with him yesterday. if he builds a pipe for the 143 it will be bigger than mine.
might even test this pipe,on my bike
yes Robin 187.5 hrs
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Quote from: strokerjlk on December 04, 2014, 05:39:47 PM
Quote from: CowboyTutt on December 04, 2014, 05:22:39 PM
Thank you Joe! :up: Looks like a nice pipe. Not sure the Wegner qualifies as a "toy" though. Casey Wegner can start his pipe at any width you want and probably do something more custom. I have found him to be very helpful on the phone. -Tutt
QuoteDon't make more out of it than was said.
I respect Casey as well. just spoke with him yesterday. if he builds a pipe for the 143 it will be bigger than mine.
Jim, Casey would very much be interested in building a pipe on a S&S B2 or B3 head or both in a big bore engine, but he feels most people won't talk to him because of his close affiliation to HD corporate. He has no S&S B2 or B3 head or engine data to work off of.
Maybe you or someone could somehow help him in the future.
Regards,
-Tutt
P.S. Tried to PM you but your inbox was full. I see nothing wrong here by post this publically. Hopefully not. -A-
Need to stop checking in on this thread... unless I can put a rod through the side of my 103 it would be tough to explain to the wife why I need a "new engine"...
Great job guys. As No Cents said.. S&S phone has got to be ringing off the hook. Jim and Randy should get a commission
Geeeez! Torque at 150+ on cruise. What a cruise it will be. :up:
Quote from: strokerjlk on December 02, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
this is the final vs the start (http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr327/strokerjlk/dyno%20sheets/CANNEDHEAT.png) (http://s496.photobucket.com/user/strokerjlk/media/dyno%20sheets/CANNEDHEAT.png.html)
It was so lean in the beginning that it was down 45 hp but rich enough to safely make a pull to 5800? How was the timing? Pretty smooth from 3400 on up. What injectors were used? Are they the Race Tronic ones that the starter map was created with?
Is there a part number for the complete clutch assembly as installed? My bud has a '11 FLH, it should drop right in, right?
This is the most brutish powerband I've ever seen for a street driven bike. I am concerned that people will get this package out of shape in a hurry unless they are already very skilled riders.
Buffalo
This is "NOT" an engine for the average Joe just looking to thump his chest and say I got one of these new bad ass 143 crate motors.
The inexperienced and even a novice rider could get in trouble very easy with this kind of power this engine produces as early as it does.
It would be an absolute nightmare if you were to get caught out in the rain with it. I could see it sliding from underneath someone very easily.
I think even the most experienced rider will have a learning curve with seeing something as simple as running up thru the gears without spinning the rear tire.
Over 150 ft pds of tq @ 2750 rpm's...that's right where most people shift. The tire will probably chirp with each gear. :dgust:
Ray
Quote from: No Cents on December 05, 2014, 12:01:20 PM
This is "NOT" an engine for the average Joe just looking to thump his chest and say I got one of these new bad ass 143 crate motors.
The inexperienced and even a novice rider could get in trouble very easy with this kind of power this engine produces as early as it does.
It would be an absolute nightmare if you were to get caught out in the rain with it. I could see it sliding from underneath someone very easily.
I think even the most experienced rider will have a learning curve with seeing something as simple as running up thru the gears without spinning the rear tire.
Ray
YEAH! I WANNA RIDE IT!
Rivera Primo Pro Clutch Kit with lockup 1056-0028 and the gold spring is 2059-0002
This would be a perfect candidate for traction control.
Quote from: Buffalo on December 05, 2014, 11:39:52 AM
This is the most brutish powerband I've ever seen for a street driven bike. I am concerned that people will get this package out of shape in a hurry unless they are already very skilled riders.
Buffalo
Most should be okay if they shift at 2300 RPM. :crook:
Quote from: joe_lyons on December 05, 2014, 04:11:19 PM
This would be a perfect candidate for traction control.
:agree: wheel sensor, speedo sensor, TBW are already in place, the technology exists, so why not?
Quote from: Burch753 on December 05, 2014, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: No Cents on December 05, 2014, 12:01:20 PM
This is "NOT" an engine for the average Joe just looking to thump his chest and say I got one of these new bad ass 143 crate motors.
The inexperienced and even a novice rider could get in trouble very easy with this kind of power this engine produces as early as it does.
It would be an absolute nightmare if you were to get caught out in the rain with it. I could see it sliding from underneath someone very easily.
I think even the most experienced rider will have a learning curve with seeing something as simple as running up thru the gears without spinning the rear tire.
Ray
YEAH! I WANNA RIDE IT!
+1 :smiled:
You all must remember that the 150ft/lb a 3000rpm is with the throttle wide open. If your in high gear, your already running 80mph, likely at 1/8th throttle.
The problems start when you go wot a slower road speeds. My bud say he'd like to "wack the throttle on this one, I just replied that all he would get out of doing so would be a wild ride to the ground.
The engine cruising in high gear at 3k will not be delivering 150ft/lbs.
Ridden at max power, this could be like riding a loaded 454 Casull (super 44mag for those who don't already know-hehe).
I've been riding 48 yrs, my little 124 is enough for me get my "rush". fwiw Buffalo
A stock bike is capable of doing 100 mph into a 45 mph curve and off the road.
I cant believe how well the pro clutch hooked up.
good job Randy :beer:
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Quote from: strokerjlk on December 04, 2014, 05:39:47 PM
Quote from: CowboyTutt on December 04, 2014, 05:22:39 PM
Thank you Joe! :up: Looks like a nice pipe. Not sure the Wegner qualifies as a "toy" though. Casey Wegner can start his pipe at any width you want and probably do something more custom. I have found him to be very helpful on the phone. -Tutt
don't make more out of it than was said.
I respect Casey as well. just spoke with him yesterday. if he builds a pipe for the 143 it will be bigger than mine.
might even test this pipe,on my bike
yes Robin 187.5 hrs
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That pipe has a business look about it. I want one. Is it true equal length?
Quote from: MCE on December 05, 2014, 07:59:32 PM
Quote from: strokerjlk on December 04, 2014, 05:39:47 PM
Quote from: CowboyTutt on December 04, 2014, 05:22:39 PM
Thank you Joe! :up: Looks like a nice pipe. Not sure the Wegner qualifies as a "toy" though. Casey Wegner can start his pipe at any width you want and probably do something more custom. I have found him to be very helpful on the phone. -Tutt
don't make more out of it than was said.
I respect Casey as well. just spoke with him yesterday. if he builds a pipe for the 143 it will be bigger than mine.
might even test this pipe,on my bike
yes Robin 187.5 hrs
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That pipe has a business look about it. I want one. Is it true equal length?
no it isn't exactly equal.
LOUD
Jim have you test the Wegner before I have been thinking about trying that one on my bike also
my reasons for saying the Dyno jet power vision map provided by S&S was safe.
i tried to outline it so it will be easy to understand. I have the idle ,cruise and wide open throttle areas outlined.
the first two charts are the front and rear cylinders.
the third chart is what the ECM was calling for.
it looked very good for not coming from this actual combo.
every component used was the same on each combo. (S&S and canned heat)
you cant expect injectors to flow the same even though the are the same specific injector.
two diff fuel pumps can have a little diff pressure.
two diff sets of the same model exhaust will not be exactly the same. (i have personally seen this with two diff boarzilla on the same engine)
and the big difference is it is two different engines
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(http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr327/strokerjlk/canned%20heat/143002.jpg) (http://s496.photobucket.com/user/strokerjlk/media/canned%20heat/143002.jpg.html)
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Quote from: Sham Rock on December 05, 2014, 08:41:29 PM
Jim have you test the Wegner before I have been thinking about trying that one on my bike also
yes sir thats what i run. look up my dyno sheets in the dyno section
my pipe is the proto type though. the newer stainless mufflers are smaller than mine.
the first 8 runs on the provided map
it wasn't a walk in the park to tune
disregard the 8 up duracell 124 header . :embarrassed:
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Big inch engines with Vision, huh?
187.5 hrs
-5.0
______
182.5 hrs left Jim :hyst:
come on Jim...you know your going to have to have one of them 143ci fire breathing monsters. :potstir:
I'm just glad that the temptation is not too great for me. :hyst:
Ray
QuoteI'm just glad that the temptation is not too great for me.
Words usually emitted right before the piggy bank gets pillaged.
:hyst:
[attach=0] no sir Mark...no stock 143ci crate motor for me [attach=1]
Ray
Great work by by all involved. :up: :up:
I have been looking over the sheets and have to say that my idea of what this combo would produce was wrong. I pictured a graph with less low end tq and a bigger spread between the peak hp and peak tq numbers.
It looks like S&S did a little motor testing this time with some emphasis on a total package. A crate motor that bolts in making 1.22 hp/ci is a true performance crate motor.
Jim did they say when yours will ship? :wink:
Quote from: No Cents on December 06, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
[attach=0] no sir Mark...no stock 143ci crate motor for me [attach=1]
Ray
Just in case Ray, it's part number 310-0548. Maybe we can get a better deal from S&S if buying two... :wink:
Brian...I think it's too late.
S&S probably has an order sheet as long as your arm.
I bet it's safe to say that after Jim posted the dyno sheets of Randy's bike...S&S's phone never stopped ringing.
Ray
Randy, I haven't seen a pic of the left side of the bike. Are you still running a belt? Just curious is all.
Quote from: No Cents on December 06, 2014, 05:54:48 PM
Brian...I think it's too late.
S&S probably has an order sheet as long as your arm.
I bet it's safe to say that after Jim posted the dyno sheets of Randy's bike...S&S's phone never stopped ringing.
Ray
Yeah, I'm sure they're confident in the future sales. Sure is a nice looking sheet isn't it? Bet it's a real arm stretcher.
he has the 530 ZZZ chain on it now.
That bike is...can I use the word EVIL?
I don't think that truly describes it to tell you the truth. I want to see him just go up thru the gears one time shifting it @ 4K.
I don't know if you'll be able to hang on to it to tell you the truth. :nix:
This is way beyond a point straight and shoot machine. :banghead:
Way too much power for ole buddy Randy :potstir: :wink:
Ray
That's good, I figure the belt won't hold for all long with many WOT runs. Yeah, I can see a need for a back rest.... :chop:
and a parachute
Wow, amazing chit. Might have to do another year over here just for engines. I kinda glossed over this at the beginning but being a crate motor does it still need to have the hoses run like the 124 crate engine? Think Ray mentioned in his thread about wanting to get the case and have it machined to avoid the hoses and then build from there. Can't see this block being any different.
Great build Randy and as usual, kudos to Jim for releasing the beast. Not sure which way to go now since 135 square has always been my goal. I certainly like the big block idea so maybe a smaller cam at the beginning and then later on recam and retune. Probably be cost effective just to build a 124" but then having the extra capability is hard to ignore. Excellent options and yes, I can imagine the phone is ringing off the hook. I still have to wonder about using the Baker DD7 and a bigger front sprocket to extend the cruising mph. Nutty idea but it'd be cool loafing along in 7th gear at 90 mph at just under 3k rpm. Running a chain wouldn't be a big problem adding another tooth. Whacky thoughts by Jack Tandy.
Quote from: No Cents on December 06, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
[attach=0] no sir Mark...no stock 143ci crate motor for me [attach=1]
Ray
come on ray . you can throw a stage 2 in it. (SE 255 cams) tour for a year. then pull it apart and give it some of that barn lovin.
you know slide this and slide that in er.....then .. trade that 175 low end tq in for a tame 130 and push the top end hp over the 200 club. :potstir:
humm 130tq at 2700 and 200 hp @ 7200. sounds like a perfect touring bike :scoot:
no sir...I'm not falling for that one...no way.
I'll just sit on the sidelines and... [attach=0]
Ray
You ain't right Jim!
Great job all!
come on Randy...spill the beans about your ride from the barn to your house on it today. :potstir: any rear tire left?
I bared the 40* temp and got 50 miles on mine today...but it was cold...burr.
Ray
Ray it was to cold for me to really rip on it ,got to remember i'm on blood thinner ,only thing i did do was wind her out in the first three gears and my eyes were watering so bad when i did look down at the speedo it was 90-100 mph the sumb..ch will scoot i like it alot... :bike:
on blood thinners?
I thought you was on Canned Heat :hyst:
I got my eyes watering pretty good today too.
Between the Dry Fork Rd. on ramp and the New Haven Rd. exit ramp...I buried the speedo with ease :slap: ...but I hads to know :hyst:
Ray
Quote from: groundhog144 on December 07, 2014, 04:17:27 PM
Ray it was to cold for me to really rip on it ,got to remember i'm on blood thinner ,only thing i did do was wind her out in the first three gears and my eyes were watering so bad when i did look down at the speedo it was 90-100 mph the sumb..ch will scoot i like it alot... :bike:
blood thinners to offset the canned heat Viagra effect
yep...that's what I'm talking about Jim. :hyst:
Looks like Randy will be having to call his doctor after he gets done riding the Canned Heat...with him still sporting wood 4 hours later :dgust:
Ray
Ok Ray its all good :hyst: also Jim i did talk with Lee about your offer he is considering filling your prescription.. :potstir:
Quote from: groundhog144 on December 07, 2014, 06:21:33 PM
Ok Ray its all good :hyst: also Jim i did talk with Lee about your offer he is considering filling your prescription.. :potstir:
:embarrassed: ROTFLMAO........Ooooo "Potty mouth" :smileo:
I new you get a kick out of that :sswim:
Quote from: strokerjlk on December 07, 2014, 06:48:00 PM
Quote from: groundhog144 on December 07, 2014, 06:21:33 PM
Ok Ray its all good :hyst: also Jim i did talk with Lee about your offer he is considering filling your prescription.. :potstir:
:embarrassed: ROTFLMAO........Ooooo "Potty mouth" :smileo:
Do I smell a trade? 120 for 143? :pop:
Is there by chance a part # for the chain drive conversion or was it pieced together? I whole heartedly endorse the EK 530ZZZ chain. My buds 2011 needs the cush drive conversion, I assume Randy's 09 has it too. Buffalo
Hello buffalo precision metal fab racing is the company I purchased the chain drive conversion from if you go to their webpage there are several options..
Buffalo I have had zero luck getting ahold of anyone at precision metal fab racing. I have one of their convertions (09up). I was in need of another. After 4-5 massages left and no return calls and a few emails I bought a billet setup from RB Racing. Much nicer piece but it cost a few more bucks! Well worth it! They will say you will have to buy their swingarm for it to have proper adjustment. Im running the stock arm with no issues. .750 PBI front sprocket and chain of choice your on your way.
I keep hearing that PMFR will be shipping shortly .
Last time I called their number I got a recording .
Someone posted on a drag racing forum that they were shipping again . I haven't tried to call since then. :nix:
Quote from: speedygibby on December 08, 2014, 08:04:52 AM
Partial EDIT: I bought a billet setup from RB Racing. Much nicer piece but it cost a few more bucks! Well worth it! They will say you will have to buy their swingarm for it to have proper adjustment. Im running the stock arm with no issues. .750 PBI front sprocket and chain of choice your on your way.
Speedy,
Mind sharing the cost here for the better unit... I realize No Swing arm...Great yours is working good with out their arm unit.
Mostly Curious for me but some others may need to know.
Tks.
signed....BUBBIE
I just want to re-iterate how nice the RB unit is! very very nice piece. I have the full kit with two styles cush drive sprocket holders.
Sprockets and Cush Hub (2009 and later FLH/T)
Rear Billet Cushion Drive Hub only.
$495.00
#530 Rear Sprocket (2009 up Cush); Hard Anodized; Specify Size. Stock is 51 Teeth; or 53 Teeth
$95.00
#530 24T Transmission Sprocket Custom Offset 2009 and Later
$100.00
Quote from: groundhog144 on December 08, 2014, 07:15:28 AM
Hello buffalo precision metal fab racing is the company I purchased the chain drive conversion from if you go to their webpage there are several options..
Thanks Randy I'll check them out!! Buffalo
PMFR was sold to viper motorcycle company. they moved from original location in shakopee MN. they have moved three times and now are in fort lauderdale FL. they haven't made any product yet.
So how (streetable) is this motor? I want one bad but dealer is trying to talk me out of it! I've got a 120r and love the power just want a little more!
Quote from: Fltrx120r on December 17, 2014, 01:25:29 PM
So how (streetable) is this motor? I want one bad but dealer is trying to talk me out of it! I've got a 120r and love the power just want a little more!
Lots of dealers out there, I know mine will sell you one.
Streetable is a relative term. I can tell you that many of the builds posted here would need de tuning to live in TX heat and traffic " if they really ride them" .. So region and use would be up to the end user. The 120 does have potential and money wise maybe just a little rework on your own engine would get you where you want to be. Money wise it not going to be a low cost swap.
Quote from: Fltrx120r on December 17, 2014, 01:25:29 PM
So how (streetable) is this motor? I want one bad but dealer is trying to talk me out of it! I've got a 120r and love the power just want a little more!
at 10.4 compression that this 143 comes at,you will have no trouble . find a GOOD tuner .
Quote from: strokerjlk on December 19, 2014, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: Fltrx120r on December 17, 2014, 01:25:29 PM
So how (streetable) is this motor? I want one bad but dealer is trying to talk me out of it! I've got a 120r and love the power just want a little more!
at 10.4 compression that this 143 comes at,you will have no trouble . find a GOOD tuner .
I'm happy with my 120r he got 130hp out of it and I've gotten up to 47 mpg out of it! ( want to share a map!) :wink:
Quote from: Fltrx120r on December 19, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: strokerjlk on December 19, 2014, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: Fltrx120r on December 17, 2014, 01:25:29 PM
So how (streetable) is this motor? I want one bad but dealer is trying to talk me out of it! I've got a 120r and love the power just want a little more!
at 10.4 compression that this 143 comes at,you will have no trouble . find a GOOD tuner .
I'm happy with my 120r he got 130hp out of it and I've gotten up to 47 mpg out of it! ( want to share a map!) :wink:
lots of happy 120 motors running around . :beer:
sorry cant do that.....S&S provides a very good base map for powervision.
I just got in from a little ride along with Randy and his 143" big block. It got to 50* outside today...so went put our bikes in the wind.
The roads were shitty to say the least so we both refrained ourselves from letting them rip...well except for the one time we crawled across a set of rough railroad tracks and Randy lit the back tire up thru two gears after crossing the tracks. :chop:
That 143"er is one bad mammy jammy. :up:
That little ride gave me some hope that spring time is only a few months away. :smilep:
Ray
Just went to see mine! It came in yesterday. Should be done by the end of the week? Here's to an early spring!
Quote from: Fltrx120r on January 17, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
Just went to see mine! It came in yesterday. Should be done by the end of the week? Here's to an early spring![attach=1]
Good to here of another 143 coming together,what pipe are you going to be running..
Quote from: groundhog144 on January 17, 2015, 01:17:16 PM
Quote from: Fltrx120r on January 17, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
Just went to see mine! It came in yesterday. Should be done by the end of the week? Here's to an early spring![attach=1]
Good to here of another 143 coming together,what pipe are you going to be running..
Going with S&S recommended B3 2into1,talked to rb racing but not impressed! Only other option would be wegner but don't want to wait or pay$
So a 143 means "NO SHORT HOPS"? I like the 18in ceiling height myself!!!!! :oops:
Quote from: Templer on January 18, 2015, 09:08:56 AM
So a 143 means "NO SHORT HOPS"? I like the 18in ceiling height myself!!!!! :oops:
:wtf: are you talking about..
Quote from: groundhog144 on January 18, 2015, 12:03:56 PM
Quote from: Templer on January 18, 2015, 09:08:56 AM
So a 143 means "NO SHORT HOPS"? I like the 18in ceiling height myself!!!!! :oops:
:wtf: are you talking about..
I'm still trying to decifer one of his earlier posts today. :hyst:
Ron
Randy, do have it good and broken in? Just wondering if you had let it eat yet.
Has to be one heck of a ride :up:
Sorry!!!! ASK A PILOT!!!!!!!!!
The Pingle shifter/manual foot shift makes low rpm 1st to 2nd shift " short hop" the front end with 124ci!!!!
WITH the 143 THAT would be a full A FULL ON UNIcycle ride.
FORGET the 18in front end lift limit "ceiling limit"
:bike:
Quote from: Durwood on January 28, 2015, 04:34:40 AM
Randy, do have it good and broken in? Just wondering if you had let it eat yet.
Has to be one heck of a ride :up:
[/ Yep I've let her chew to several times let me tell you it's a hell of a lot of fun :bike:
Ron and Randy , when you decipher Templer's posts please let me know . I think he is hiding the location of the holy grail in them !
I was not sure if it was the pain meds I am on or if he just had better meds of his own.
To 2006FXDCI:
I feel your sorrow with NO motor to give ya that "short hop" feeling. The Holy grail is not what its about! I would wager by your question/statement that you have never lifted the front end with other then a JACK!!!!! SO SAD!!!!
Quote from: 1FSTRK on January 28, 2015, 09:31:59 AM
I was not sure if it was the pain meds I am on or if he just had better meds of his own.
:teeth:
after 4+ years of being on here I am finally learning to understand his unique writing style - makes my head hurt sometimes tho... :smilep:
Quote from: Templer on January 28, 2015, 09:35:35 AM
To 2006FXDCI:
I feel your sorrow with NO motor to give ya that "short hop" feeling. The Holy grail is not what its about! I would wager by your question/statement that you have never lifted the front end with other then a JACK!!!!! SO SAD!!!!
How about lifting the back tire up without a jack? Ponder that one.
Fly OUT the drive way @ the Corbin seat manufacturer site .YOU WILL GET REAR TIRE LIFT.
Try landing front tire first!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hyst:
Quote from: Templer on January 28, 2015, 10:14:45 AM
Fly OUT the drive way @ the Corbin seat manufacturer site .YOU WILL GET REAR TIRE LIFT.
Try landing front tire first!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hyst:
What's wrong with a wheel barrow landing? :hyst: Me, I like to hide the wheel under my tail then explain the one under my nose. :wink:
Ron
Quote from: 2006FXDCI on January 28, 2015, 08:40:28 AM
Ron and Randy , when you decipher Templer's posts please let me know . I think he is hiding the location of the holy grail in them !
:hyst:
Quote from: groundhog144 on January 28, 2015, 07:24:27 AM
Quote from: Durwood on January 28, 2015, 04:34:40 AM
Randy, do have it good and broken in? Just wondering if you had let it eat yet.
Has to be one heck of a ride :up:
[/ Yep I've let her chew to several times let me tell you it's a hell of a lot of fun :bike:
:up: :up:
Quote from: joe_lyons on January 28, 2015, 10:09:06 AM
Quote from: Templer on January 28, 2015, 09:35:35 AM
To 2006FXDCI:
I feel your sorrow with NO motor to give ya that "short hop" feeling. The Holy grail is not what its about! I would wager by your question/statement that you have never lifted the front end with other then a JACK!!!!! SO SAD!!!!
How about lifting the back tire up without a jack? Ponder that one.
Does running into a wall to do that count?
Ron
Sure as long as you live to tell the tale, your golden.
Mike
Quote from: rbabos on January 28, 2015, 10:29:23 AM
Quote from: joe_lyons on January 28, 2015, 10:09:06 AM
Quote from: Templer on January 28, 2015, 09:35:35 AM
To 2006FXDCI:
I feel your sorrow with NO motor to give ya that "short hop" feeling. The Holy grail is not what its about! I would wager by your question/statement that you have never lifted the front end with other then a JACK!!!!! SO SAD!!!!
How about lifting the back tire up without a jack? Ponder that one.
Does running into a wall to do that count?
Ron
Saw my neighbor do that. He said "Watch this", (dangerous words), and started a burnout in the parking lot. Lost control and ran into the side of the bar. Front fender folded, rear tire up. Funniest damn thing I'd seen in a long time.
Quote from: Hossamania on January 28, 2015, 11:53:39 AM
Quote from: rbabos on January 28, 2015, 10:29:23 AM
Quote from: joe_lyons on January 28, 2015, 10:09:06 AM
Quote from: Templer on January 28, 2015, 09:35:35 AM
To 2006FXDCI:
I feel your sorrow with NO motor to give ya that "short hop" feeling. The Holy grail is not what its about! I would wager by your question/statement that you have never lifted the front end with other then a JACK!!!!! SO SAD!!!!
How about lifting the back tire up without a jack? Ponder that one.
Does running into a wall to do that count?
Ron
Saw my neighbor do that. He said "Watch this", (dangerous words), and started a burnout in the parking lot. Lost control and ran into the side of the bar. Front fender folded, rear tire up. Funniest damn thing I'd seen in a long time.
That "Watch this" is responsible for more carnage then any other phrase. :hyst:
Ron
So should you say. "Look away"
Quote from: joe_lyons on January 28, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
So should you say. "Look away"
Sure. Takes the pressure off to do something really stupid then.
Ron
Maybe, but I'm bettin the stupid stuff happens whether we're looking or not ;)
A fine line between stupid and fun!!!
The cross over can be funny or :oops:.
WE ALL WANT TO WATCH!!!!!!!!!! :emoGroan:
Anyway,keep up the updates on that BIG motor that CAN/DOES!!!
:pop:
come on Randy...spill the beans and tell us what your doing over there in that garage to that 143 machine :potstir:
I just knew you couldn't leave well enough alone!
Ray
Quote from: No Cents on March 16, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
come on Randy...spill the beans and tell us what your doing over there in that garage to that 143 machine :potstir:
I just knew you couldn't leave well enough alone!
Ray
I got my RC Comp rear wheel and rotor and lower legs back that where pitting and flaking chrome they fixed under warranty plus i installed a new rear tire, picked up a set of RJI 12 inch adjustable shocks new in the box for cheap Score..Took Canned Heat for a little 70 mile ride sunday and she rides like a magic carpet..the new rear tire has some grip she pulls the front wheel rolling out in first gear with ease :koolaid: I got a few other things cooking :potstir:
Any pics Randy ?
Just for Randy. :teeth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBHRYtt-Y4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBHRYtt-Y4)
Hope Coyote don't ban me.
Quote from: WI Bob on March 17, 2015, 04:40:50 PM
Just for Randy. :teeth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBHRYtt-Y4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBHRYtt-Y4)
Hope Coyote don't ban me.
Now there is some really great music.......... :up: and a Great picture.......... :wink:
Quote from: IRONMIKE113 on March 17, 2015, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: WI Bob on March 17, 2015, 04:40:50 PM
Just for Randy. :teeth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBHRYtt-Y4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBHRYtt-Y4)
Hope Coyote don't ban me.
Now there is some really great music.......... :up: and a Great picture.......... :wink:
+1
perfect Bob! :wink:
nicely done :up:
Ray
Quote from: WI Bob on March 17, 2015, 04:40:50 PM
Just for Randy. :teeth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBHRYtt-Y4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBHRYtt-Y4)
Hope Coyote don't ban me.
. Excellent job WI Bob :chop:
I think someone has the case of the shorty pipe on that T143 :potstir:
...who needs a Bassani or a D&D Mega Cat pipe when you got THAT wicked thing. :wink:
here goes the neighborhood :hyst:
Ray
Quote from: WI Bob on March 17, 2015, 04:40:50 PM
Hope Coyote don't ban me.
:scratch: :nix: :idunno:
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Just Curious whats the diff in the 144 vs my 143 same compression, cams, and B-3 heads , 70mm Throttle Hog.
In the beginning this engine was shipped calling it a T144. It became later known as the T143.
Here is the instruction sheet that was sent with one of the 1st engines sold to the public.
Note what it says on the top of the page.
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Ray
They say the same except mine says T143 Long Block Engine 08 and up. Learn something new everyday engine specs are identical...
They are the same the 144 is the 143 they just got called out because at first they were calling it a 144 and when people did the math it was 143 so they started calling what it really is 143
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I wish I could afford one of these babies. Anyone want to buy a kidney?
You will need pipes, clutches and a chain drive too. It might take two kidneys.
Quote from: mr_natural78 on July 14, 2015, 08:09:20 AM
I wish I could afford one of these babies. Anyone want to buy a kidney?
Hey, no selling stuff outside of Swap Meet. :slap:
pre tune on the short pipe
https://youtu.be/I0mL_RQIZAc (https://youtu.be/I0mL_RQIZAc)
Looks like it's at Jim's for a exhaust change and tune?
Quote from: strokerjlk on July 14, 2015, 08:10:03 PM
pre tune on the short pipe
https://youtu.be/I0mL_RQIZAc (https://youtu.be/I0mL_RQIZAc)
I noticed on "Betty Blue" you deleted the muffler as well, how much did that pick up the ET?
Quote from: Durwood on July 15, 2015, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: strokerjlk on July 14, 2015, 08:10:03 PM
pre tune on the short pipe
https://youtu.be/I0mL_RQIZAc (https://youtu.be/I0mL_RQIZAc)
I noticed on "Betty Blue" you deleted the muffler as well, how much did that pick up the ET?
Randy's bike lost 13 hp without the muffler .
But it sounds wicked ,and now he can switch back and forth and play .
I picked up .20 without the muffler on my bike . I also lost 5 -6 hp because I softened up the boost at the same time .