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Man i have no idea how you folks get such great mileage out of tires 8-15 K? The longest lasting rear tires i have run are the commander II's and i have yet to get past 4500 miles out of them. And i ride a dyna you think it be easier on tires. 

Quote from: Latrobedyna on April 20, 2015, 10:26:35 AM
Man i have no idea how you folks get such great mileage out of tires 8-15 K? The longest lasting rear tires i have run are the commander II's and i have yet to get past 4500 miles out of them. And i ride a dyna you think it be easier on tires. 

It has to do a lot with riding style, short trips or touring, in town, out of town, road surface.

It is not unusual for me to fire up my Ultra, top of the gas and not stop until I need gas again. I might take off for a "short" run in the evening and run 200 miles without stopping. I have run to Sturgis, bought a t-shirt, then headed back home on the same day, 1,000 miles.  I have headed to Duluth from Fargo, had lunch and turned around and headed home.  Take a quick 1,500 mile run around Lake Superior in two days. You can get good tire mileage if you don't stop for anything!

In town it unusual for me, I don't bar hop, I don't drag race my buddy to the next stop light.

 I'm really lovin the Pirelli Angel GT tire.
Best tire I've ever had on my bike...hands down.

Ray

Quote from: No Cents on April 21, 2015, 07:25:58 PM
I'm really lovin the Pirelli Angel GT tire.
Best tire I've ever had on my bike...hands down.

Ray

what kind of miles are you gettin

 

Quote from: black on April 22, 2015, 05:50:25 PM

Quote from: No Cents on April 21, 2015, 07:25:58 PM
I'm really lovin the Pirelli Angel GT tire.
Best tire I've ever had on my bike...hands down.

Ray

what kind of miles are you gettin

Now that there is a loaded question.  That back tire only stops spinning at red lights and stop signs.   

added later;  .... or in the barn when Ray's in the house.

So at the beginning of this post are the front and rear Avon Cobra photos at 8,138 miles from my bike. Front still some tread, rear is gone. Below is the front and rear American Elites with 9,412 miles. Front has some miles, rear is gone. Same bike, same general riding style, the Dunlops got me another 1,274 miles. But, they also do not hold the like Avons do. On a bike with much less power, the Dunlops probably would have been a bigger improvement over the Avon's as far as mileage and longevity. But, the Dunlops also would break loose pretty easy under power, where the Avon's don't. For 90% of the riders, the Dunlop American Elites are a better choice on a heavy bike, this being a Street Glide. But when you add more power to the equation, the Avon's are a better tire IMHO. I have the Dunlops on my '09 Ultra, and like them fine there, but it's a stone stock bike.

Avon's are here to stay on this bike.

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Brian I've kinda found what you did mileage wise between Cobra and Elite 3 on the front of the Deuce (I know different size and app),  but when I push the bike harder the Cobra will actually return better mileage than the E3...softer/gripier tire doesn't struggle for traction and will out mileage the harder tire in aggressive use.  Proved this back to back more than once.

Sure I could see that Rick, under some variations, the results can change to unexpected. Things I noticed in a short 25 mile ride with the Avon's back on, the ride is not as smooth as the Dunlops, meaning I get more road sensation and feed back with the Avon's. As well I can feel the difference going through the gears hard, the bike has a newfound snap to it when the gear is change under a hard acceleration. This happening in 1st, 2nd and 3rd, as the Dunlop just didn't grip the same as the Avon does. All in all, the Dunlop is a better tire for general riding in my opinion, smoother, higher mileage in most applications.

Quote from: Ohio HD on September 12, 2016, 03:10:33 AM
Sure I could see that Rick, under some variations, the results can change to unexpected. Things I noticed in a short 25 mile ride with the Avon's back on, the ride is not as smooth as the Dunlops, meaning I get more road sensation and feed back with the Avon's. As well I can feel the difference going through the gears hard, the bike has a newfound snap to it when the gear is change under a hard acceleration. This happening in 1st, 2nd and 3rd, as the Dunlop just didn't grip the same as the Avon does. All in all, the Dunlop is a better tire for general riding in my opinion, smoother, higher mileage in most applications.

Bias ply probably, but not radials. The Cobra radial tires on my Roadglide Ultra are much smoother than Dunlop Bias ply tires IMO.

They don't last quite as long but will grip all the way to the cords.

I personally choose performance over longevity, not saying the Dunlop's are bad, I just like the Avon radials better.

Quote from: Durwood on September 12, 2016, 07:09:02 AM

Quote from: Ohio HD on September 12, 2016, 03:10:33 AM
Sure I could see that Rick, under some variations, the results can change to unexpected. Things I noticed in a short 25 mile ride with the Avon's back on, the ride is not as smooth as the Dunlops, meaning I get more road sensation and feed back with the Avon's. As well I can feel the difference going through the gears hard, the bike has a newfound snap to it when the gear is change under a hard acceleration. This happening in 1st, 2nd and 3rd, as the Dunlop just didn't grip the same as the Avon does. All in all, the Dunlop is a better tire for general riding in my opinion, smoother, higher mileage in most applications.

Bias ply probably, but not radials. The Cobra radial tires on my Roadglide Ultra are much smoother than Dunlop Bias ply tires IMO.

They don't last quite as long but will grip all the way to the cords.

I personally choose performance over longevity, not saying the Dunlop's are bad, I just like the Avon radials better.

Sure, that's fine, and probable. But it's not an apples to apples comparison. Radials will always ride better than bias ply tire in my experience.

By my preferring Avon is not for the lower mileage that I get from them.     

Quote from: Ohio HD on September 12, 2016, 07:13:44 AM

Quote from: Durwood on September 12, 2016, 07:09:02 AM

Quote from: Ohio HD on September 12, 2016, 03:10:33 AM
Sure I could see that Rick, under some variations, the results can change to unexpected. Things I noticed in a short 25 mile ride with the Avon's back on, the ride is not as smooth as the Dunlops, meaning I get more road sensation and feed back with the Avon's. As well I can feel the difference going through the gears hard, the bike has a newfound snap to it when the gear is change under a hard acceleration. This happening in 1st, 2nd and 3rd, as the Dunlop just didn't grip the same as the Avon does. All in all, the Dunlop is a better tire for general riding in my opinion, smoother, higher mileage in most applications.

Bias ply probably, but not radials. The Cobra radial tires on my Roadglide Ultra are much smoother than Dunlop Bias ply tires IMO.

They don't last quite as long but will grip all the way to the cords.

I personally choose performance over longevity, not saying the Dunlop's are bad, I just like the Avon radials better.

Sure, that's fine, and probable. But it's not an apples to apples comparison. Radials will always ride better than bias ply tire in my experience.

By my preferring Avon is not for the lower mileage that I get from them.     

Exactly. You didn't say for sure in the post as to whether they were bias or not, that's why I replied.

Have a good one.

after adding the heads to my bike took it out for a spin temp was in the 98 range went for a little ride. On the way back into my drive I smacked it on my concrete for a split second . Then onto the gravel HA HA sticky is best I can do with lower mileage love the way they hook .

I bought a 2006 XL883C a couple of years ago that had Dunlop's on it. I didn't feel comfortable on the bike, admittedly the tires were old and hard. I replaced them with Avon Cobras. What a difference. I recently sold the Sporty and bought a 2006 Softail Deuce. It had a brand new Dunlop on the front and near new one on the back. The handling is not as good as Avon shod Sporty but not bad. Confidence level is just not as good. I know we are talking about two different bikes but both have the 21" front wheel. The Sporty with the Dunlop tended to follow grooves in the road, the Avon hardly at all. The Deuce with the Dunlop does. When these wear out, on go Avon's. I used Avons on my BMW also.
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